Udall + Wilderness

[Qreiff]

Just saw this on the news. Here is a quick note on the proposal and the effort to hear public opinion.

http://www.9news.com/news/local/art...-wants-feedback-on-creating-wilderness-areas-

They said they had a map of the proposed areas but, I've been unable to locate it on the 9news website at this point.

 

[duke1n]

There are idiots on this site that voted for this hack!

 

[springcreek338]

Udall + Wilderness = no Sledding

Everyone needs to join their local snowmobile clubs and help them fight this. Also email Udall. This is our backyard.

 

[duke1n]

I've had lengthy email discussion with Udall. Trust me, he doesn't give a rats *** about motorized recreation. Not saying don't do it but be prepared to not get a friendly response. More than likely it will be thanks for your opinion but we care a lot more about the enviro nazi lobby that puts us in office than we do you redneck hillbilly snowmachiners.

 

[springcreek338]

This is from Udalls website.
Central Mountains Outdoor Heritage Proposal
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Stat. Sheet 2-24-12

Proposed Unit Approx. Acres County Forest ServiceAcresBLM Acres Map NameAcorn Creek
1,139 Summit 1,139 Ptarmigan A + AcornCreek + Ute Pass
Adam Mountain
7,224 Eagle 7,224 Adam Mountain
Bull Gulch
15,136 Eagle --- 15,136 Bull Gulch
Castle Peak
12,150 Eagle --- 12,150 Castle Peak
Castle Peak SMA
5,640 Eagle --- 5,640 Castle Peak
Crystal River
5,744 Pitkin 5,744 Crystal River
Eagle Mountain
315 Pitkin --- 315 Eagle Mountain
Freeman Creek
1,201 Eagle 1,201 Freeman Creek +Spraddle Creek
Hay Park
5,278 Pitkin 5,278 Hay Park
Hay Park East
5,414 Pitkin 5,414 Hay Park
Hayes Creek
6,213 Pitkin 6,213 Hayes Creek
Hoosier Companion
1,641 Summit 1,641 Hoosier Ridge
Hoosier Ridge
4,639 Summit 4,639 Hoosier Ridge
Hunter
2,799 Pitkin 2,799 Hunter + Independent A+ Independent B
Mormon Creek
4,111 Pitkin 4,111 Mormon Creek
No Name
4,000 Eagle 4,000 No Name
North Independent A
4,493 Pitkin 4,493 Hunter + Independent A+ Independent B
North Independent B
934 Pitkin 934 Hunter + Independent A+ Independent B
Pisgah Mtn SMA
13,770 Eagle --- 13,770 Pisgah Mountain SMA
Porcupine Gulch
6,356 Summit 6,356 Porcupine Gulch
Ptarmigan A
2,266 Summit 2,266 Ptarmigan A + AcornCreek + Ute Pass
Red Table SMA
55,927 Pitkin 55,927 Red Table
Ruby Lakes
2,428 Pitkin 2,428 Ruby Lakes
Spraddle Creek
9,469 Eagle 9,469 Freeman Creek +Spraddle Creek
Tenmile
3,851 Summit 3,851 Tenmile
Tenmile Companion
3,239 Summit 3,239 Tenmile
Thompson Creek
13,276 Pitkin 13,276 Thompson Creek














Thompson Cr. BLM
6,970 Pitkin --- 6,970 Thompson Creek
Ute Pass
2,927 Summit 2,927 Ptarmigan A + AcornCreek + Ute Pass
West Lake Creek
3,345 Eagle 3,345 West Lake Creek
Wildcat Mountain
5,922 Pitkin 5,922 Wildcat Mountain
Williams Fork
9,338 Summit 9,338 Williams Fork
Woods Lake
7,053 Eagle 7,053 Woods Lake
Woods Lake
1,565 Pitkin 1,565 Woods Lake
TOTAL:
233,345 179,364 53,981

 

[springcreek338]

So he asks for input just so he can say he did. And only the Hidden Gems respond.

 

[springcreek338]

I dont know how to post links but the maps are on his website.

 

[duke1n]

So he asks for input just so he can say he did. And only the Hidden Gems respond.

That's how it works yes. Still though people, if you don't at least put up a fight you WILL lose.

http://www.markudall.senate.gov/?p=contact

 

[springcreek338]

Thanks duke, i will send him my 2 cents worth.

 

[Rprecision]

I e-mailed him, but its about as useful as telling Polis to say no to Rainbow Unicorns!

More wilderness, in Colorado, heres my suprised look..............

 

[AndrettiDog]

Udall does support this but the more controversy he has on this topic the harder it is for him to support. Especially with a big election year coming up for the country. It's harder for him to get his peers to support bills when they are fully aware of those opposing it. You have to send him a quick letter. Don't bash him or you will be ignored. Don't be afraid to send it to your county commissioner's, congressman, etc. Just put together one really good letter and continue to send it.

 

[psychoneurosis]

COHVCO and CSA have a meeting with his office on the new proposal but I still encourage everyone to voice their objections. Here is the comment page on Udall's page

http://www.markudall.senate.gov/?p=form&id=52

Couple of talking points might be the recent Forest Service report to Udall's office that Identified Wilderness areas as a significant contributor to the pine beetle outbreak and a significant limiting factor in the Forest Service response. Here is a link to that

http://www.fs.fed.us/rmrs/docs/home/bark-beetle.pdf

Colorado Forest Service has mapped the areas impacted hardest by beetle kill - this almost entirely overlaps the areas proposed to be Wilderness.

Forest Service's Office of rural development has also identified a multiple use trail system as a significant economic contributor to local economies.

http://www.rurdev.usda.gov/Reports/C...port-Feb10.pdf

There are more speaking points here

http://coloradotpa.org/news/news/let...ve-tipton.html

I have summaries of all these docs but just not sure how to post them in the new format.

 

[psychoneurosis]

The complete comments previously submitted regarding polis proposal are attached. Not enough coffee. these comments predated both the forest health report and I was not aware of the california rural development report so that is not addressed either.

Lots of good information in the attached comments

 

[milehighassassin]

Read about this in the Post yesterday. They changed his district so he is now in my district.

You need to not only contact Udall, contact your other representatives. He can propose anything he wants, his mind is made up, nothing will change that. Start going after other representatives that have not made up their mind.

 

[duke1n]

Did not you vote for Udall? Are you still pleased with that decision?

 

[Gmiller]

HERE WE GO AGAIN.....

 

[duke1n]

I'm not gonna beat a dead horse but it is beyond me how someone can say they are a supporter of snowmobiling and for that matter motorized recreation and then turn around and vote to put people into power who's stated goal is to shut down and/or severely limit that access. How this person is now a moderator on this site is even more ridiculous. We are being destroyed from the inside out.

 

[Gmiller]

I'm not gonna beat a dead horse but it is beyond me how someone can say they are a supporter of snowmobiling and for that matter motorized recreation and then turn around and vote to put people into power who's stated goal is to shut down and/or severely limit that access. How this person is now a moderator on this site is even more ridiculous. We are being destroyed from the inside out.

Im not positive but i can guess who your talking about. We ARE being destroyed from the inside out because ANYBODY, a granola, can join this site and see everything we are talking about and then work their way to end it. We need to stop talking about our riding spots unless its between known riders in a private message or phone call. Posting videos and pictures of our spots is all good as long as we don't name the area. This wilderness and hidden gems will CONTINUE to take over areas if we don't all come together, voice our opinion, join a club and fight to save them. Summit County is already losing a couple major, large areas to the travel management plan this summer, we don't need to lose ANYTHING else..... Call your reps, call the forest circus and tell them how you can help to keep these areas open.

 

[milehighassassin]

Did not you vote for Udall? Are you still pleased with that decision?

If you are talking to me, no I did not vote for Udall. He wasn't running in my district and if he was, the answer is no I would not have voted for him.

 

[AndrettiDog]

I'm not gonna beat a dead horse

Too late.