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Twin Turbo Nytro

I think it comes down to perf, then cost, and weight...and is the add. perf worth the ladder two. But surely there are those who just wanna have a TT for status and bling reasons too.

Are you considering a series or parallel system?

Do you have any testing on something like this yet? Or still in idea stages?


I'm more so simply curious..
 
depends on if i can sell them or not. i have one. we have ridden it for 2 years now. it is a built motor though. but going down the trail we are running 6 to 8 pounds of boost. weve been running 30 out of it when your on the throttle. its awesome i love it. but would like to actually start selling them.
 
depends on if i can sell them or not. i have one. we have ridden it for 2 years now. it is a built motor though. but going down the trail we are running 6 to 8 pounds of boost. weve been running 30 out of it when your on the throttle. its awesome i love it. but would like to actually start selling them.
What would be the advantage? That thing must be horrid on fuel making that much boost on the trail. Our Nytro's make either no boost or maybe 1 or 2 lbs going up the trail, and going down cruising is always in vacuum.
 
lets see some pics of this bad boy. i can;t see the advantage of twin turbo in a mountain sled situation, it would be wicked for drags but, with a single these sleds are capable of 400hp which is more than enough to do anything really awesome. with twins i see extra lag, extra cost, extra weight, thats just my 2 cents

boondocker talked about coming out with twin turbo kit for the apex for over a year and it never did happen. twin turbo nytro is cool but i think only for those with money to burn. Best of luck I still hope you get the chance to produce and sell them.
 
I agree with you. although lag??? there is no lag. your running such a small turbo in the front. the front turbo is only going to be capable of running like 10 pounds. the front turbo is so small. there wont be any lag. i mean like i said we run 6-8 pounds of boost on the trail. just cruising. i agree on the fuel. but surprisingly it doesn't actually use that much more. but you get the advantage of a quick spool of the smaller turbo and then it dumps off to the bigger turbo so your able to run alot of boost. and ya i agree with the single turbo running 400 horse. we have one that does that. but i dunno. i mean like you all say. its unique and kinda cool. but then again. alot of time is put into it. the cost i would say would be around 6500. so its a little more costly. also depends on what turbo you wanna run in the back. if you would rather an apex i would actually like to do one.
 
what turbo setup do you use? would like to know all the details of your turbo setup. if your looking for an apex to do i happen to have one :D
 
So your talking about compound turbos right??

And the guy who thinks there's gonna be more lag I think your confused about twins
 
confused about lag? it all depends on the setup, if done properly lag is minimal but it can also go the other way. pretty sure i'm not confused about twins or lag since i troubleshoot, diagnose, and repair single,twin, and quad turbo diesel/Nat. gas engines everday :D
 
confused about lag? it all depends on the setup, if done properly lag is minimal but it can also go the other way. pretty sure i'm not confused about twins or lag since i troubleshoot, diagnose, and repair single,twin, and quad turbo diesel/Nat. gas engines everday :D

Congratulations, I own a compound turbo Duramax, and have friends with large single turbo, that push comparable air as my twins, if you don't think a properly setup compound turbo can out spool a comparable large single then you are confused.
Same thing as parallel twins, two small turbos spool faster then one big turbo
 
if you don't think a properly setup compound turbo can out spool a comparable large single then you are confused.

i never said twins can't out spool a single:face-icon-small-con i made no mention if they are better nor worse, thats why i've asked about details of this twin turbo setup before making any direct observations of how it would perform. i know how twin setups work, what makes them good and what can make them bad compared to singles.
 
confused about lag? it all depends on the setup, if done properly lag is minimal but it can also go the other way. pretty sure i'm not confused about twins or lag since i troubleshoot, diagnose, and repair single,twin, and quad turbo diesel/Nat. gas engines everday :D




Hmmm ever been around the C15 Cat motor?? It outspools the ISX so bad it's not even funny also its smooooth power with allot of boost 55-60psi on a cold morning. Not saying I would want it on a sled buit twins can be built to spool very fast a little heavy though and allot more parts.
 
i never said twins can't out spool a single:face-icon-small-con i made no mention if they are better nor worse, thats why i've asked about details of this twin turbo setup before making any direct observations of how it would perform. i know how twin setups work, what makes them good and what can make them bad compared to singles.

Your exact words in your first post were "with twins I see extra Lag":confused:

That is what I was refering to.... But whatever, seems we are on the same page now
 
Hmmm ever been around the C15 Cat motor?? It outspools the ISX so bad it's not even funny also its smooooth power with allot of boost 55-60psi on a cold morning. Not saying I would want it on a sled buit twins can be built to spool very fast a little heavy though and allot more parts.

I'm actually a Cat diesel tech, went through Caterpillars very own tech program. c13's/15's are very well engineered engines and they do have kickass performance to boot. The family farm has a semi with c12 single turbo setup so i've ran the 2 side by side and there is no comparision. Not once did i bash or say the twin setup was not gonna work, simply asked about lag cause if turbos are not matched right its gonna be pretty ineffcient.
 
Your exact words in your first post were "with twins I see extra Lag":confused:

That is what I was refering to.... But whatever, seems we are on the same page now

sorry for the misinterpetation, just when i see a small motor going with twins alot of stuff needs to be right cause the twins do a require a bit more from the engine to push the twins, if setup well its beauiful, smooth, quick and espcially hard hitting on top, but if not matched right i see poor performance.:face-icon-small-win

edit: i'm interested in turbo positioning, cause if the low speed turbo is a mid or front mount and the high speed turbo is positioned in the rear, if there is enough distance between the turbos and once again pending on the turbo matching i could see it being inefficient as the low speed would work like a sob to pressurize the extra tubing and the second turbo, thus making everything hot and less effcient. please give us the scoop nytro41!!
 
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sorry for the misinterpetation, just when i see a small motor going with twins alot of stuff needs to be right cause the twins do a require a bit more from the engine to push the twins, if setup well its beauiful, smooth, quick and espcially hard hitting on top, but if not matched right i see poor performance.:face-icon-small-win

edit: i'm interested in turbo positioning, cause if the low speed turbo is a mid or front mount and the high speed turbo is positioned in the rear, if there is enough distance between the turbos and once again pending on the turbo matching i could see it being inefficient as the low speed would work like a sob to pressurize the extra tubing and the second turbo, thus making everything hot and less effcient. please give us the scoop nytro41!!

Yeah I agree, if you could get them right next to each other (which I think is possible) with a cast hot pipe between the two I think they could be very efficient
 
I just am curious what a twin setup can do on a nytro that a well tuned front or midmount turbo doesnt already do.. maybe boost like tiny instant sooner, but a nightmare of crap and way more $$.. I guess I just dont see its value on sleds, unless your just out to stroke your ego.
 
Most guys can't get one running properly......how the heck they gonna make 2 run?? :face-icon-small-win
I would say its only for the knowledgable.......I think Ulmer,or someone he was assocaited with, did a twin a few years ago.

Happy boosting
RS
 
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