Turbo Questions

[wilmot]

I would take either kit but how much more FUN is 240hp vs 180hp? You can purchase a 180 kit for half the price but do you have half the fun?

 

[smwizzz]

LOL

Well... it is hard to go back once you have a turbo and it kinda the same thing once you turn up the boost....

Fun is what you make it. 180, 240, 300??? It is up to you.

Kinda like mine at 15 lbs....

 

[paulharris]

MCX costs probably a few dollars more than their competitors.
MCX uses Mitsubishi turbocharger, not cheap China junk chargers.
Keep in mind that oil return pump is important to get a correct oil return in any conditions. The piggyback fuel system works really well. Just plug and play and no fiddling with the OEM injection system..
Perfect solutions don't come for free. You just get what you pay for...
I wonder why Yamaha USA chose Push in the first place. Maybe they just chose the cheapest kit.

The oil pump is just one more part to fail, more weight, more wiring. Not a single oil related failure or problem on the Push kit. the oil system is simple and it works well. I know that some people have had those pumps fail on MCX and they are $600 to replace and you also have bigger problems if the oil is blocked because of a failed pump and oil can't return to the engine. And, once again, why Yamaha chose Push....because it passed an extensive yamaha durability test. Again, MCX lovers can't seem to accept that there are other great kits out there for less money. As for the imported turbo....if it works and the price is right and the quality is good does it really matter where its made? these turbos work awesome and the quality is good. there have been very few turbo failures. I would bet that mitsu/garrett are having their turbos/parts made in china too!!! I know for a fact that several of Garretts turbo's are made in china and mexico! Just because its a Japanese or American company doesen't mean its made there. lots of outsourcing going on! If you haven't accepted the fact that 90% of the things we use are made in china then you are living in a dream. as for the fueling there is no "fiddling" with the push system....its plug and play also. The push factory settings run flawlessly you don't even need to touch the box....no stumbles or misses. Of course the box is fully adjustable if you do find the need to change some things.

 

[paulharris]

I was not trying to bash PUSH, but i have to agree with bigbird, just from what i have seen and heard people in general have not been to happy with them in Canada, and in Canada the people buying them are getting them from the Canadian PUSH distributor so i think they'd know a bit about them. If your local dealer sells PUSH and knows PUSH and thats who customer X deals with i'd take a serious look at them.

Yamaha did not go with MCX because Yamaha needed something more price point, and MCX could not get to the price PUSH and MPI could offer them, just what I was told. MCX has recently dropped some pricing, in Canada a push turbo is $3595, MCX a guy can get new from us for $3999, I don't see $1400 diff. I see $400 difference that i'd pay to have MCX over Push, if i lived in Colorado though and you were having good luck with your kits and provided good service and etc, maybe i'd be riding a push turbo, so many variables though. Happy sledding. -Cody

as for pricing, if you want to compare apples and oranges (retail vs discounted) like you did here, there is a yamaha dealer in Faribault Minnesota that is currently running a special on the push kit for $2600. so it looks like the Push is still $1400 cheaper than MCX. Again, for the guys that want a great running, simple pump gas turbo kit that passed yamaha's extensive durability test and don't want to break the bank, the push kit is an excellent option.

 

[mi boondocker]

I jumped on the $2600 deal and i have a dealer nearby thats been setting them up for sea level with great results and no failures.

 

[paulharris]

I,m just gonna give my 2 cents here. I own a 2010 push nytro with 2700 boosted miles. I totally love this kit, zero problems. I think bang for buck and reliability it is a good kit that performs well. Everyone seems to knock the gems, but push runs 6 modes versus MPI's 4. And why does everyone think an oil return pump is so important? Yamahas' full pressure oiling system delivers plenty of lubrication, and the push return system works great. As of yet I have never heard of a failure. If it is so important maybe we should put oil return pumps on our turbo cars and pickups, on my sled I don't want the extra weight,plumbing, and wiring. I have rode many rough roads and trails with no broken brackets or kit components, so as far as I can see quality is not yet an issue.
In closing I would say the push kit works as promised, good tunabilty, simplicity, and 180 horsepower. If you want more power go with a different kit. If you want heavier brackets, an extra oil pump, and 2 less tuning modes go with MPI. As mentioned in earlier posts price is key,and my guess is after MPI saw how many push kits went through yamaha MPI wanted a share of the turbo biz. Last thing, Ken at push has always been very prompt and helpful.


Jeff

X2 totally agree