Turbo HP #'s

[supraturbo]

Will your M1000 ECU include a knock sensor?

we have tuned the 1000 with a knock module and yes we will sell the ecu with/without the knock sensor, and 100% sure with an electronic boost controller.

 

[Jeff K]

Any time frame on M8 development?

 

[supraturbo]

Any time frame on M8 development?

m8 is next in line,so we should start engine dyno tuning within two weeks but won't be ready for this season since i want the "on the snow" testing to very accurate and reliable and here we have not a lot of snow right now and pobably on grass end of march to mid april......so not too much time left. the one thing i can tell you is we will be ready for next season with poo,a/c,yamaha.

 

[HANDSOME]

as of now on our m1000 with cpc turbo kit and bone stock engine and our standalone ecu, we made on pump gas 91 octan (9 lbs at see level) 318 h.p. and this number is an 99.9% accurate number. when lunching our standalone ecu, we will reveal the h.p. and torque numbers up to 21lbs(on 112 octan race gas) with knock sensor. All dyno chart. and videos of dyno session with the motor naturally aspirated to full boost will also be available......we are getting there!still on snow testing going on.

9 psi = 318 hp ?? I must be missing something.

 

[hatchers]

as of now on our m1000 with cpc turbo kit and bone stock engine and our standalone ecu, we made on pump gas 91 octan (9 lbs at see level) 318 h.p. and this number is an 99.9% accurate number. when lunching our standalone ecu, we will reveal the h.p. and torque numbers up to 21lbs(on 112 octan race gas) with knock sensor. All dyno chart. and videos of dyno session with the motor naturally aspirated to full boost will also be available......we are getting there!still on snow testing going on.

wait, are you saying, you can run 91 octane at sea level pushing 9lbs?

if so,........BOOM!!!!!

 

[Dirty10]

HP

m8 is next in line,so we should start engine dyno tuning within two weeks but won't be ready for this season since i want the "on the snow" testing to very accurate and reliable and here we have not a lot of snow right now and pobably on grass end of march to mid april......so not too much time left. the one thing i can tell you is we will be ready for next season with poo,a/c,yamaha.

I am running a CPC turbo M 1000 get that box on the market I gotta have one.

 

[MCIVER]

m8 is next in line,so we should start engine dyno tuning within two weeks but won't be ready for this season since i want the "on the snow" testing to very accurate and reliable and here we have not a lot of snow right now and pobably on grass end of march to mid april......so not too much time left. the one thing i can tell you is we will be ready for next season with poo,a/c,yamaha.

you can come up and do some testing here, we ride into june almost every year. middle of may last year I could still probe over 8 feet in places. I'll let you ride with us if you bring me one of those ecu's for my M8.

 

[Mcx Nytro]

Go with the OVS tial turbo for the 800.
Easy to tune, reliable and at 15# you can ride every day with more power than any NA 1000.

How would this compare to the turbo nytro @ 14 lbs pump gas???Had one and am looking to get back into the martket with either the 800 or 1000 on boost????/Thanks

 

[supraturbo]

9 psi = 318 hp ?? I must be missing something.

wait, are you saying, you can run 91 octane at sea level pushing 9lbs?

if so,........BOOM!!!!!

by not being able to pull(add) timing , you are leaving on the table 37 h.p. at 9 lbs(compared with the attitude box coming with the cpc turbo kit).also when using 112 octan(very lazy gas) at 9 lbs you are leaving again on the table 19 h.p.......so it is a 56 h.p. flushed to the toilet at 9 lbs simply because you can't control timing therefore not controling efficiently detonation and that's why you guys can't run more than 7 lbs with 91 octan gas.

 

[supraturbo]

I am running a CPC turbo M 1000 get that box on the market I gotta have one.

by the end of february

 

[supraturbo]

you can come up and do some testing here, we ride into june almost every year. middle of may last year I could still probe over 8 feet in places. I'll let you ride with us if you bring me one of those ecu's for my M8.

i want to get to revy area to test in altitude......i will need some experienced drivers for sure!!!i'm not a sledneck crazy chutes climber...!

 

[Boyko]

by not being able to pull(add) timing , you are leaving on the table 37 h.p. at 9 lbs(compared with the attitude box coming with the cpc turbo kit).also when using 112 octan(very lazy gas) at 9 lbs you are leaving again on the table 19 h.p.......so it is a 56 h.p. flushed to the toilet at 9 lbs simply because you can't control timing therefore not controling efficiently detonation and that's why you guys can't run more than 7 lbs with 91 octan gas.

There seems to be a lack of understanding on how things work or maybe the info is not getting through the translation. It seems you are talking about running 2 different types of fuel and gaining 56 hp at the same time?

The math for a N/A 170hp motor at 9psi works out to 274 hp, even this would be a optimistic number with a stock motor

On your Dyno you claim 318hp@9psi The extra HP 44 gained is not going to be all through timing, there is no way I can believe that, timing is not going to gain you 16% more power unless the tune up is so far off the motor would not be running rite to start with.

Did you change the Y pipe in the motor? Doing this will bring up your stock HP close to 190, I feel it is necessary to do this on a turboed M1000.

I asked for clutching info from you, for me that is a better indication on how much power is at hand, the dyno numbers you posted sound optimistic.

Can you find out what has been done to the clutch tune up, the type of track and what RPM it is holding when wide open.

Making 318 hp @ 9psi at see level on pump gas with a stock motor, no intercooler, how long did you hold it at 318hp for?

You also posted that the dyno number is 99.9% accurate, Do you mean the calibration of the load cell (or eddy current) is 99.9 on? There are to many variables involved in the final data to make a statement like this.

You said you had 3500 miles on the dyno? I do not know what formula you use to get that. A better statement would be how many hours you have on the dyno.

Sorry if it seems to be a negative post, This product does have a lot of potential and it is good you are spending the time and coin on it, but some info you are throwing out does not make sense to me and others on the fourm as well.

Maybe I see ya in BC. I will be in Golden a few times in Feb, check the weather before you go, it sucks not seeing 10 feet in front of where you are ridin.

 

[supraturbo]

There seems to be a lack of understanding on how things work or maybe the info is not getting through the translation. It seems you are talking about running 2 different types of fuel and gaining 56 hp at the same time?

The math for a N/A 170hp motor at 9psi works out to 274 hp, even this would be a optimistic number with a stock motor

On your Dyno you claim 318hp@9psi The extra HP 44 gained is not going to be all through timing, there is no way I can believe that, timing is not going to gain you 16% more power unless the tune up is so far off the motor would not be running rite to start with.

Did you change the Y pipe in the motor? Doing this will bring up your stock HP close to 190, I feel it is necessary to do this on a turboed M1000.

I asked for clutching info from you, for me that is a better indication on how much power is at hand, the dyno numbers you posted sound optimistic.

Can you find out what has been done to the clutch tune up, the type of track and what RPM it is holding when wide open.

Making 318 hp @ 9psi at see level on pump gas with a stock motor, no intercooler, how long did you hold it at 318hp for?

You also posted that the dyno number is 99.9% accurate, Do you mean the calibration of the load cell (or eddy current) is 99.9 on? There are to many variables involved in the final data to make a statement like this.

You said you had 3500 miles on the dyno? I do not know what formula you use to get that. A better statement would be how many hours you have on the dyno.

Sorry if it seems to be a negative post, This product does have a lot of potential and it is good you are spending the time and coin on it, but some info you are throwing out does not make sense to me and others on the fourm as well.

Maybe I see ya in BC. I will be in Golden a few times in Feb, check the weather before you go, it sucks not seeing 10 feet in front of where you are ridin.

boyko,don't worry about being a bit negative, it is the way you are!!! but it is ok...i like that!
1-what i'm saying is: at 9lbs boost on 91 octan gas with the standalone ecu compare to 112 octan gas at 9lbs boost with regular fuel box, the hp difference is 56 hp.everyone knows lower octan gas will make way more power than high octan gas...need to keep detonation under control though.
2-"""The math for a N/A 170hp motor at 9psi works out to 274 hp, even this would be a optimistic number with a stock motor"" can you please direct me where you got these numbers from......??i guess my and your math aren't the same.
3-"""Did you change the Y pipe in the motor? Doing this will bring up your stock HP close to 190, I feel it is necessary to do this on a turboed M1000"" once again please explain??why are you gaining 25 hp by replacing y pipe??holy cow it is an amazing cheap way to gain 25 hp (175$) best bang for the buck mod i have seen yet!!!!!!!!!!!!
4-"""Making 318 hp @ 9psi at see level on pump gas with a stock motor, no intercooler, how long did you hold it at 318hp ?""" the necessary time for the 318 h.p. to show up!!i'm sure you have seen dyno pull before.
5-"""Can you find out what has been done to the clutch tune up, the type of track and what RPM it is holding when wide open.""" you probably know on an engine dyno we are hooked to it by the crank so the clutches are on a shelf
in the warehouse while dynoing on the snow, adjustable weight,no more than 7550 rpm and stock track.
6-"""You also posted that the dyno number is 99.9% accurate, Do you mean the calibration of the load cell (or eddy current) is 99.9 on? There are to many variables involved in the final data to make a statement like this.""" we didn't play with the atmospheric datas,we have a weather station into the dyno room..........so the results are accurate(at see level).
7-"""we have over 100 hours n/a,boosted,boosted with standalone ecu,boosted with fuel box,n/a with standalone.....plus on the snow testing(2 weeks now).

finaly i would like to tell you, by playing with timing, we found a 9%-11% increase in hp....believe it or not, that is the fact.

 

[Boyko]

boyko,don't worry about being a bit negative, it is the way you are!!! but it is ok...i like that!
1-what i'm saying is: at 9lbs boost on 91 octan gas with the standalone ecu compare to 112 octan gas at 9lbs boost with regular fuel box, the hp difference is 56 hp.everyone knows lower octan gas will make way more power than high octan gas...need to keep detonation under control though.
2-"""The math for a N/A 170hp motor at 9psi works out to 274 hp, even this would be a optimistic number with a stock motor"" can you please direct me where you got these numbers from......??i guess my and your math aren't the same.
3-"""Did you change the Y pipe in the motor? Doing this will bring up your stock HP close to 190, I feel it is necessary to do this on a turboed M1000"" once again please explain??why are you gaining 25 hp by replacing y pipe??holy cow it is an amazing cheap way to gain 25 hp (175$) best bang for the buck mod i have seen yet!!!!!!!!!!!!
4-"""Making 318 hp @ 9psi at see level on pump gas with a stock motor, no intercooler, how long did you hold it at 318hp ?""" the necessary time for the 318 h.p. to show up!!i'm sure you have seen dyno pull before.
5-"""Can you find out what has been done to the clutch tune up, the type of track and what RPM it is holding when wide open.""" you probably know on an engine dyno we are hooked to it by the crank so the clutches are on a shelf
in the warehouse while dynoing on the snow, adjustable weight,no more than 7550 rpm and stock track.
6-"""You also posted that the dyno number is 99.9% accurate, Do you mean the calibration of the load cell (or eddy current) is 99.9 on? There are to many variables involved in the final data to make a statement like this.""" we didn't play with the atmospheric datas,we have a weather station into the dyno room..........so the results are accurate(at see level).
7-"""we have over 100 hours n/a,boosted,boosted with standalone ecu,boosted with fuel box,n/a with standalone.....plus on the snow testing(2 weeks now).

finaly i would like to tell you, by playing with timing, we found a 9%-11% increase in hp....believe it or not, that is the fact.

Ok

Tell me if my math is wrong

( 170 / 14.7 ) x ( 14.7 x 9)= 274

How did you work it out?

Here is another one you tell me what it is telling ya

318 / ( 14.7 + 9 ) X 14.7 = 197

The y pipe is the best bang for your buck .... ever.

You have not seen a stock M1000 pipe have you, It is kind of pinch off in the center

Don't get your hands dirty working on this stuff LOL

Any one out there got a M1000 making close to 200 hp with a Y pipe and a few other small mods ( you should do something with the efi to) or seen a dyno report of it? It is a powerful platform to turbo.

I would like to know your clutch tunning when you are riding it, this has nothing to do with you mobile dyno that has gone 3500 miles with your motor in it LOL

Something wrong with holding peek hp on a dyon for a few second, you know thay can do that, just flashing a big number don't count in my book, by no way is it saying this thing can make this power on that octain, it is misleading

You said

by playing with timing, we found a 9%-11% increase in hp....believe it or not, that is the fact.

It sounds like you can make more peek hp, well I guess you can some of the time.

I can not control timing on some of my stuff but I know that 105 octain works best at 12 pound of boost on a sled at 7500 feet, my timing and yours will not be to far off.

 

[supraturbo]

boyko, maybe it is getting to personal and we are selfish by hijacking other people thread.....why don't you pm me with your questions so we can leave snowest members enjoying winter ! email or pm me for now on. as a matter of fact, why don't you show up at our facilities , then you can teach us all your mathematical skills and transfer them to the dyno room and make us realize we are a bunch of morrons.......