Tuning in the Vipec on Skadi's sled

[jsandgren10]

I appreciate your videos. I didn't mean you when i replied. I was mainly referring to Sebastian and precision efi who are the ones that developed it using vipec as their base ecu. I appreciate those that have bought the ecu and are basically finishing building their maps and post videos. Nice to see how it works

 

[Hardass]

The way i understood it was once you had your map it would do any further adjusting for going up and down in elevation plus any temp changes is that correct? Or do you have to build maps for every condition and elevation? OH AND HE IS A NICE GUY

 

[Vi-PEC Powersports]

I personally think there would be a lot less questions with this ecu if you guys showed some info on it. You guys show a sled running, but never show the boost levels, the range of afr its running, etc.

Also if you guys took the time to show on a few youtube videos how "easy" it is to tune would make people a lot more incline to try it. For example if you load your base map on a turbo sled, show a video of you guys taking it for an initial run, showing your o2 readings, and then how quick it is to hook the laptop back up to it, find the spot to be fixed, fix it, and run it again.

When I first inquired about this system you guys acted like your base map would be so close you probably wouldn't need to change it, but the more this gets out the more it seems you have to tune it yourself. Still very interested in this ecu, just would like to see how much work it is to tune it to a specific sled.

we are in cooke city this week end!! come to meet us and we will show you how easy it is to tune the ecu. Once a solid base map will be done for BD,SILBER,PUSH,HM(DONE) ect with same exact set up, then it will be a plugin pull rope kit....remember the ECU is on the snow for only 1 1/2 month now.

 

[Vi-PEC Powersports]

The way i understood it was once you had your map it would do any further adjusting for going up and down in elevation plus any temp changes is that correct? Or do you have to build maps for every condition and elevation? OH AND HE IS A NICE GUY

all conditions and elevation ,air charge temp ect are being compensate by the ecu.Once you have a working map, it is over for good!

 

[Matte Murder]

Does the ViPec have a "self fix mode"? Can you press a button and the ECU itself makes all the changes? If not does it tell you how much fuel to add etc to get the correct tune? I remember watching the Porsche techs upload the data from the Motec systems and then let the Motec itself make the corrections. Sometimes they would actually make changes themselves but most times they let the computer do the work or they would just upload a map that was working good for that track and conditions. Motec is a very expensive system, just wondering about the capabilities of the Vipec.

 

[Skadi]

In this video I saved the data logg, added fuel to the boost map and stored it back into the ECU.

Ya, you are a nice guy!! I know I owe you for working on my sled while I'm outta town!!! I can't wait to get my turn on her this weekend and a little tutorial from you on how it all works!

 

[Scott]

Ya, you are a nice guy!! I know I owe you for working on my sled while I'm outta town!!! I can't wait to get my turn on her this weekend and a little tutorial from you on how it all works!

In other words....your sled has become the Jezebelle of Spokaloo? haha

 

[Skadi]

tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow!!!!!!!!!! can't wait, can't wait, can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!


hehehehehehhee.... pics and vid of ME riding it to follow!!

oh, i'm so excited!!! it's actually been weeks!!! had to borrow a stocker a few weekends back for the last trip I took!!

 

[Going West]

What problems where you having with the original controller.

 

[Skadi]

PM sent Going West...

Now about my first ride on mine with the Vi-Pec... Holy clean running machine batman!!! We upped the boost a little bit, adjust the clutching the night before and D wanted to make a few changes to the tune since the last time he was out, just trying to make the bottom end that much more clean for me... Anyway, after I think three pulls with the laptop he was happy and handed her over to me. I rode the rest of the day without a throttle needing to be chopped or blipped or even THOUGHT about... it was amazing. power was right there, right when i needed it every time... it was VERY linear too... not a lag, lag, lag then RIP your arms out... I honestly didn't really FEEL it pulling like I thought it would (then I realized my arms were sore!!) It was pulling plenty hard, just more linearly so it's 'manners' for lack of a better word, were MUCH friendlier!!

Towards the end of the day I started having problems... We got out the laptop and took a rip with it in data log mode and established that my electrical problem (which we THOUGHT might be an electrical problem before but really had no way of knowing) was back. We were able to look at the voltage, compare it with a bunch of other graphs (one being the one that shows us how the injectors are working) and establish the electrical was going out first; this pin points our issue HUGELY for us. Still a pin in the butt cause, well, electrical issues are!! But so far NO ONE had had any real input for me on this issue and now I finally had a slight direction to run in!

Anyway, hella impressed with how well the vi-pec worked and the troubleshooting capabilities it had when that electrical issue showed up. We were hoping it just might not cause we simplified the electrical system a tiny bit going with the Vi-Pec but apparently under serious load it still wanted to let me know it was there! freaking electrical issues!!!

We'll be busy chasing that monkey around the shop but we'll see if D can't put together some helmet cam footy if you all want (I don't have much cause it was snowing like the dickens and my camera lens was covered with snow most of the time!!)

I ran it constant throttle, blipping, pinned for DAYS (it was really wet heavy and deep snow) and until my electrical issue surfaced it bobbled twice and recovered itself so quickly I wouldn't have noticed unless I was looking for it!!! WAY impressive!!!

 

[Duke]

PM sent Going West...

Now about my first ride on mine with the Vi-Pec... Holy clean running machine batman!!! We upped the boost a little bit, adjust the clutching the night before and D wanted to make a few changes to the tune since the last time he was out, just trying to make the bottom end that much more clean for me... Anyway, after I think three pulls with the laptop he was happy and handed her over to me. I rode the rest of the day without a throttle needing to be chopped or blipped or even THOUGHT about... it was amazing. power was right there, right when i needed it every time... it was VERY linear too... not a lag, lag, lag then RIP your arms out... I honestly didn't really FEEL it pulling like I thought it would (then I realized my arms were sore!!) It was pulling plenty hard, just more linearly so it's 'manners' for lack of a better word, were MUCH friendlier!!

Towards the end of the day I started having problems... We got out the laptop and took a rip with it in data log mode and established that my electrical problem (which we THOUGHT might be an electrical problem before but really had no way of knowing) was back. We were able to look at the voltage, compare it with a bunch of other graphs (one being the one that shows us how the injectors are working) and establish the electrical was going out first; this pin points our issue HUGELY for us. Still a pin in the butt cause, well, electrical issues are!! But so far NO ONE had had any real input for me on this issue and now I finally had a slight direction to run in!

Anyway, hella impressed with how well the vi-pec worked and the troubleshooting capabilities it had when that electrical issue showed up. We were hoping it just might not cause we simplified the electrical system a tiny bit going with the Vi-Pec but apparently under serious load it still wanted to let me know it was there! freaking electrical issues!!!

We'll be busy chasing that monkey around the shop but we'll see if D can't put together some helmet cam footy if you all want (I don't have much cause it was snowing like the dickens and my camera lens was covered with snow most of the time!!)

I ran it constant throttle, blipping, pinned for DAYS (it was really wet heavy and deep snow) and until my electrical issue surfaced it bobbled twice and recovered itself so quickly I wouldn't have noticed unless I was looking for it!!! WAY impressive!!!

Sooooo.....what was the electrical issue? Sounds complicated trying to diagnose issues with so much going on? I assume the troubleshooting and diagnostics isn't for everyone?

 

[Skadi]

well.. the issue existed BEFORE the vi-pec.. I was pulling my hair out and everyone had an opinion on what it might be but there wasn't really a good way to test anything so it was shotgun testing as my only option! An expensive option!! We just pulled up the logs and you can also look at the kill switch position. Not that that was my ONLY issue but that we definitely one of my electrical issues!! kill switch was coming on while I was riding and I was NOT hitting it! Pretty cool I can look at that stuff with the vi-pec! I've been scratching my head over this electrical issue for 2 months now and actually know quite a few other people having electrical issues with their Pros! This tool certainly helps troubleshoot it; even though it wasn't exactly designed to be a troubleshooting tool for electrical issues....

as a tuning tool I can already say that my sled is running WAY WAY WAY better than it ever did!!!

 

[sleding4life]

A little birdy told me that sunday was the only day that they were running and it was OK at best, not worth 2000.00 yet.

 

[CANDYMAN]

I know I read from Precision that this was a tune on the Dyno, let sensors take over and drive off in to the sunset type of product.

What happened?

Who wants to ride around with there laptop all winter?

Does anyone have a Vipec running with extra injectors? Even the OEM bike guys know that to get proper low end and great top end you have to run staged injectors.

 

[Vi-PEC Powersports]

A little birdy told me that sunday was the only day that they were running and it was OK at best, not worth 2000.00 yet.

judge for yourself !! may tell your little birdy to come have is tinny as$ kicked from a 5.5lbs pro on pump gas on top of a chute at 88mph track speed and if not enough, on a 3 mile strech half throttle( he will melt is engine!!)
seriously, we could not be happier !! sleds ran like champs all week-end and on my personal sled, same tune than sea level just diffrent clutching. if you want to have real opinion call Bill ( this guy climbed with my sled at 5.5lbs on pump gas some incredible chutes!!) at the antlers lodge or Bud at fastraxx(union bay)..... or shane hart from hm turbos (we have spent a day tuning his kit 9lbs boost on pump gas)

 

[Vi-PEC Powersports]

I know I read from Precision that this was a tune on the Dyno, let sensors take over and drive off in to the sunset type of product.
check videos below in the thread.......now do you think it is a dyno tune running this pro??

What happened?
what do you mean?

Who wants to ride around with there laptop all winter?
certainly not me!! watching those vids, do you see laptop?gauges?

Does anyone have a Vipec running with extra injectors?
yes
Even the OEM bike guys know that to get proper low end and great top end you have to run staged injectors
this is such a full of $hit statement....sorry for the big word but it is absolutely stupid.

 

[INDEEP]

Keep up the good work guys. Some people will just never get that this is a huge step forward for the sport.

 

[papafinger1]

I have to say I have been watching this product all year long trying to figure out if it would be something appropriate for me. The one observation I have is that the folks, like me, who are on the fence, don't post much. Those that are for or against post like crazy. If you are a disbeliever set up a test ride or speak directly to a dealer. If I decide to purchase one I will have assistance with the install by a dealer, help tuning initially, and a "hold my hands cuz I just gradumatated pre-school" course from said dealer on personal tuning, mapping, and computer education on said product. Thank you to those of you who are pushing our passion farther into the future. Cheers to skadi and r8n for your commitment to bettering our sport and to all the developers and dealers that have spent countless hrs and funds to develop a product we as consumers, if not appreciate, certainly debate.

p.s. sledstew you and vipec are on my short list on contacts for my next boosted project.

 

[sledstew]

I have to say I have been watching this product all year long trying to figure out if it would be something appropriate for me. The one observation I have is that the folks, like me, who are on the fence, don't post much. Those that are for or against post like crazy. If you are a disbeliever set up a test ride or speak directly to a dealer. If I decide to purchase one I will have assistance with the install by a dealer, help tuning initially, and a "hold my hands cuz I just gradumatated pre-school" course from said dealer on personal tuning, mapping, and computer education on said product. Thank you to those of you who are pushing our passion farther into the future. Cheers to skadi and r8n for your commitment to bettering our sport and to all the developers and dealers that have spent countless hrs and funds to develop a product we as consumers, if not appreciate, certainly debate.

p.s. sledstew you and vipec are on my short list on contacts for my next boosted project.

Im like a principal at a local grade school,the door is always open.Call anytime

 

[Skadi]

you're welcome papa!

Stew, i love that and it's SOOOO true, we called (call) him SOOOO much and he is ALWAYS available for us! Can't wait to try the pump gas map and finally get this bad boy off race fuel!!