you still drive your car after a year...knowing that your brake pads are at least worn 25 to 40 percent...do you think it negligence on your behalf that your not getting new brake pads every week to keep them close to 100 percent...???
Tragedy, Thrill Seeking or Stupidity ?
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you still drive your car after a year...knowing that your brake pads are at least worn 25 to 40 percent...do you think it negligence on your behalf that your not getting new brake pads every week to keep them close to 100 percent...???
AdrenalinAddict and Firecat162 both good post.
Kudo's to Firecat and Addict.
Life involves risk, especially active, physical recreation, and doubly so for anything with a motor in it.
-Don't go outside you might get by lightning or eaten by a bear
-Don't stay inside you might die of carbon monoxide poisoning, or develop a nasty dust mite allergy
-Don't play sports you might break a bone or stub your toe, or something
-Don't mow your grass. A rock might shoot out, ricochet of a tree and hit you in the eye
Like Firecat said, some people want to be safe from harm and others want to live. We all die eventually and nobody celebrates the life of the guy who did nothing.
Just a hunch but it sounds to me like the author of that editorial has an anti-motorized agenda and mentioned the skiers for idealogical camo.
Identify the hazard.
Assess the risk.
Examine your options.
Make a plan.
Proceed with caution.
Ride hard. Drive home.
Life involves risk, especially active, physical recreation, and doubly so for anything with a motor in it.
-Don't go outside you might get by lightning or eaten by a bear
-Don't stay inside you might die of carbon monoxide poisoning, or develop a nasty dust mite allergy
-Don't play sports you might break a bone or stub your toe, or something
-Don't mow your grass. A rock might shoot out, ricochet of a tree and hit you in the eye
Like Firecat said, some people want to be safe from harm and others want to live. We all die eventually and nobody celebrates the life of the guy who did nothing.
Just a hunch but it sounds to me like the author of that editorial has an anti-motorized agenda and mentioned the skiers for idealogical camo.
Identify the hazard.
Assess the risk.
Examine your options.
Make a plan.
Proceed with caution.
Ride hard. Drive home.
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Zachcreek
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This is a subject that will forever be debated amongst people and groups with completely different views and outlooks on LIFE in general. You have people that LIVE their lives to the fullest each and every day...every breath like its their last. On the other hand you have people that go through life with no ambition, no drive no meaningfull purpose other than to EXIST. They lock them selves up in an imagineary bubble free of all unnecessary risk, and good for them, I hope it works for them, because in the end we will all end up dead, some sooner than others.I for one, fall into the first group whole heartedly. I was born with a severly deformed right foot and had it amputated at 1 year old. I wear a below knee prosthetic and have since I was 2 years old. Instead of laying around feeling sorry for myself I wanted to push the limits in everything I was a part of. Hockey,skiing,softball and Bull Riding. I competed as a professional bull rider for 7 yrs going to as many as 150 events a year. Some would say that is risking your life...I would say thats LIVING life. Over the years I lost 3 good friends to Bull Riding Injuries. Very sad and very tragic for those around them including family & friends...would any of those guys ask you or want you to be sorry for them individually....NEVER. They knew the risks and that one day thay may pay the ultimate price with their life, and they did. Would they change it if they could do it all over again...knowing these guys...I say no....neither would I. Risks are a part of our world whether you acknowledge it or not. Driving, walking through a park,walking through a rough neighbourhood at night, playing golf in a thunderstorm, smoking,drinking, breathing the air that is so polluted...the list goes on. I don't see how anyone has the right to criticize anothers life choices and call them stupid or careless or brainless. Not one of those fellow sledders that died this year or any other year in avalanches or related accidents would ask you to feel sorry for them or JUDGE them, but they would like you to mind your own buisness and pay some respect to their families and loved ones.Mind your own buisness, live life how you see fit, don't judge others on how they are living theirs and have some respect.
Ride Safe, Play Hard!
I am not afraid or dying , I am afraid of not living.
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Clarke673
Somewhere between too dumb to quit and flat earth
Yes.
I think the article treats the 8 who died in fernie with no respect. I am upset about it and do not know anyone involved. If my family or friends were killed in any of those accidents i would be outraged. You don't speak badly about the dead.
So what I'm reading here is some people are putting their own thrill seeking in front of the needs of family? Then we get the subsequent "the family needs help, please donate" threads on here. Some people really need to get their priorities straightened out.
Do they ever say avalanche conditions are good?
Even the most cautious riders put themselves in peril unknowingly.........guess we should all just stay home and wait for our obama bailout checks to arrive.
Even the most cautious riders put themselves in peril unknowingly.........guess we should all just stay home and wait for our obama bailout checks to arrive.
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If the avy forecast is High, how would you describe the difference between climbing hills in those conditions versus playing a game of Russian roulette? They would no doubt both be a big thrill and really get your adrenaline going.
I've only had one narrow escape in 40 years of mountain riding. We new danger was high and had been discussing it all day. Two of our group then went up a big open slope and got stuck. Against my better judgement I went to help. I stopped pointed downhill, got off and saw it break 500 yards above us. I yelled for them to get on, we rode tripple down and to the side. It went right past us, missing by a few feet. Huge slide, unbelievably fast. It missed the stuck sleds by 3 feet.
My point is, in the same situation with all knowing the danger, I will never go help again. They were and still are my friends but I'm not risking my life and my families welfare for someone else's stupidity. I also wouldn't go looking for a victim who was pounding a chute if it meant putting myself in danger. It would be different if it was a freak avy on a "safe" slope.
Call me coward or selfish if you want, but I'm not stupid and while I will try to prevent stupid in other people I won't pay for their stupidity.
My point is, in the same situation with all knowing the danger, I will never go help again. They were and still are my friends but I'm not risking my life and my families welfare for someone else's stupidity. I also wouldn't go looking for a victim who was pounding a chute if it meant putting myself in danger. It would be different if it was a freak avy on a "safe" slope.
Call me coward or selfish if you want, but I'm not stupid and while I will try to prevent stupid in other people I won't pay for their stupidity.
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Uller
Member
Live life to the fullest!!
I try to live my life according to the rules of the following quote.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thouroughly used up, totally worn out, and proudly proclaiming, "WOW! What a ride!"
I think someone else on here has that quote as their sig line. Gotta love it.
I try to live my life according to the rules of the following quote.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thouroughly used up, totally worn out, and proudly proclaiming, "WOW! What a ride!"
I think someone else on here has that quote as their sig line. Gotta love it.
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buck50
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pretty much all winter the avy conditions for mid to southern BC are listed as either moderate or high. so no sledding for anyone bascially all year in these areas is what some people are saying. do you need to be aware of conditions when you go out-ABSOLUTELY--know the weather for that day, and check what has happened previously, ask questions on forums to others who have been to those areas. get all the info you can, and if you decide it's to great a risk for you, then go somewhere else, or don't go at all, your CHOICE
If that's the case, let's can all the sad threads talking about someone who ventured into avalanche territory in attempt to "live" and ceased to.
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Clarke673
Somewhere between too dumb to quit and flat earth
Nice way to show some compassion. So would you want us to talk about your death in a avy? Some how i think that if you were caught in an avy that it would be a tragedy...
But I guess by your standards, if a 5 year old was eating lunch parked next to the trail and an avy came down and killed him, than that would just be they’re fault. Dumb F’n kids should have known they could die from just being in the mountains… right? Well you are WRONG. All avys are accidental. Some are triggered by humans, some by nature. Granted going “out of bounds” on a ski resort is a bit foolish but its still a tragedy.
FYI, I have caused 3-4 avys and NONE of them were when I was high marking. All were on small hills that we did not know could slide and all where pure accidental. It’s those types of conditions that kill people.
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Clarke673
Somewhere between too dumb to quit and flat earth
Great post! Everyone should do that and talk to the locals. Have the best gear you can afford and practice with your riding groups. Use your head and not your balls when you are riding.
That’s all you can do... Or you can stay home on the couch and die from eating to many potato chips. Life=choices. I would rather risk serous injury or death in the first 40 years of my life than be the old guy that’s 95 saying he wished he would have lived more.
Nice way to show some compassion. So would you want us to talk about your death in a avy? Some how i think that if you were caught in an avy that it would be a tragedy...
But I guess by your standards, if a 5 year old was eating lunch parked next to the trail and an avy came down and killed him, than that would just be they’re fault. Dumb F’n kids should have known they could die from just being in the mountains… right? Well you are WRONG. All avys are accidental. Some are triggered by humans, some by nature. Granted going “out of bounds” on a ski resort is a bit foolish but its still a tragedy.
FYI, I have caused 3-4 avys and NONE of them were when I was high marking. All were on small hills that we did not know could slide and all where pure accidental. It’s those types of conditions that kill people.
Another one that doesn't get it.
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Clarke673
Somewhere between too dumb to quit and flat earth
Nope. Sure don't. Care to explain your unmatched wisdom?
The last time I checked an accident was an unfortunate event resulting especially from carelessness or ignorance.
Just curious but what is your definition of an accident?
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