TRA VIDEO - HOW IT WORKS (ramps dont move)

[rockymking]

FACT, when you click your clickers down from #5 to #4, #3, #2 or #1 the centrifical force as the primary rotates at entitle startup will move the ramps down from #5 to your selected #4, #3, #2, or #1 clicker position.


OT

This is a true fact ... the ramp will be pushed by the roller arm assembly until it contacts the eccentric radius of the clicker bolt, where it will remain stationary against that eccentric radius until another clicker adjustment is made to a lower clicker setting. In my TRA VII, the pivot point of the ramp is fairly snug, so the ramp is not just going to "fall" onto the lower radius after lowering a clicker setting. If you increase a clicker setting, there will be NO movement of the ramp at initial startup, since the increased radius of a higher setting is what pushed the ramp up. The movement is going to start and finish in milliseconds and then it's over!

Tell me this is not what this whole pissing contest is about??? Semantics and technicalities about ramp movement during a clicker adjustment that last less than a second? You must be really bored

 

[Original Tetonice]

............ and once the roller presses on the ramp the ramp presses on the clicker it remains in that fixed position. And that's a fact jack!

Once the ramps have moved thats correct.

OT

 

[Dartos]

OK we have that figured out.

Now can someone make me a video on how a woman works? lol

 

[rockymking]

OK we have that figured out.

Now can someone make me a video on how a woman works? lol

God ... that would take a "box set" of DVD's No pun intended

 

[onlyrotax]

Two minutes of my life----lost forever.

 

[Original Tetonice]

Screw the DVD's...There nothing like the real bling

OT

 

[Original Tetonice]

OK we have that figured out.

Now can someone make me a video on how a woman works? lol

Practic, Practice, Pratice....And if you still cant figure them out Practice some more.

OT

 

[redneckj]

 

[Dynamo^Joe]

2002-In Thompson manitoba I was invited to calibrate 2 sleds with Ski-Doo x-team. One of the questions I had on my list was about a "snowest rumor" of heelclunker/brp components. The pulley development gent told me "we observe much products in the aftermarket including his "...and further commented about the great lengths they take to manufacture a clutch. From that moment I discarded what I read about the nouis rumor. This is the 3rd time I've said this since 2002.

I can report from my conversations with brp techy types and skidoo mechanics that brp takes with them testing even the most reputable tuners from selected brp dealers - test calibrations and in the end what calibration left the hills is not the same calibration that lands in the customer hands.

Pulley development and calibration engineers come from a groomed background, we'll never see an aftermarket company land a part in their clutches. They will make their own version of whatever and never acknowledge anything otherwise...it is their development. They do testing in methods beyond what we comprehend. I did 4 seasons with Acat factory racers spending a total of 20 days at the factory testing race sleds and it's the same deal, locked doors/swipe pass key to enter. I have no doubt that Poo/Yam is not any different.

Unless you talk to these individuals face to face or at least go to the shows where the quality-tech guy Gord Radke who goes everywhere in north america and corner them and ask them questions difficult to answer, I would not believe the b.s written, not even in snotech.

 

[quickdraw]

Well, I believe that the following axiom is appropriate in this situation:

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

QUOTE]

I believe the more correct axiom is... " Once I tried to wrestle with a pig but never got anywhere and after a while I noticed that the pig liked it"

 

[mountainhunter]

kinda like the new secondary is simalar in function to the Team ,kinda see where this one is going, i think Randy said something about the snocross team

 

[Original Tetonice]

2002-In Thompson manitoba I was invited to calibrate 2 sleds with Ski-Doo x-team. One of the questions I had on my list was about a "snowest rumor" of heelclunker/brp components. The pulley development gent told me "we observe much products in the aftermarket including his "...and further commented about the great lengths they take to manufacture a clutch. From that moment I discarded what I read about the nouis rumor. This is the 3rd time I've said this since 2002.

I can report from my conversations with brp techy types and skidoo mechanics that brp takes with them testing even the most reputable tuners from selected brp dealers - test calibrations and in the end what calibration left the hills is not the same calibration that lands in the customer hands.

Pulley development and calibration engineers come from a groomed background, we'll never see an aftermarket company land a part in their clutches. They will make their own version of whatever and never acknowledge anything otherwise...it is their development. They do testing in methods beyond what we comprehend. I did 4 seasons with Acat factory racers spending a total of 20 days at the factory testing race sleds and it's the same deal, locked doors/swipe pass key to enter. I have no doubt that Poo/Yam is not any different.

Unless you talk to these individuals face to face or at least go to the shows where the quality-tech guy Gord Radke who goes everywhere in north america and corner them and ask them questions difficult to answer, I would not believe the b.s written, not even in snotech.

Blah, Blah, Blah nobody cares about your name dropping i did this i did that babble.

OT

 

[RideGuy]

Informative thread, Thankyou.

Did DJ and OT used to be friends and have a falling out?? It's hard to believe how anybody can argue over the ramps to this degree I'm new to the Doo's and it seems a little cold in these waters.....

It's been a good read and helps me understand the difference between my TRA on my new sled I got last week.... and my P85 from my old Mod sled.....

OT has to take things over board sometimes like the Avy thread and this.... Sure if you go from 6 to 1 centrifical force will make the ramp move into it's " rest/engaged position ". Unless gravity makes the ramp go to it's "rest/engaged position" a force is needed to move it while it's engaging.... The ramp is "movable" while clicking/engaging... When the clutch is engaged the ramps Do not move.

LOL I think learned from this little session......

Now I think we should talk about the primary spring......

 

[Smitty]

Are you sure you guys ride sleds? By looking at the dates of this thread, i have slipped in 4 epic, powder over the windsheild rides from when this thread started until now.

BTW in each ride i went from clicker 2 to clicker 6 at any given point in the day.

POWDER HOGGIN!!!

 

[Original Tetonice]

Ridgeguy, Guys like DJ and BJ for the past 5 years have tried and tried to mislead people into believing the TRA ramp do not move. They've tried and tried and tried to dis-credit me as well regarding the movement of the TRA ramps.

This post is nothing more than another example of DJ displaying his lack of credible knowledge on how the TRA's Primary internal parts function.


OT

 

[baD-MAX]

Ridgeguy, Guys like DJ and BJ for the past 5 years have tried and tried to mislead people into believing the TRA ramp do not move. They've tried and tried and tried to dis-credit me as well.

This post is nothing more than another example of DJ displaying his lack of credible knowledge on how the TRA's Primary internal parts function.


OT

OT does your credible knowledge include your point that the primary spring squeezes the belt?

...MAX

 

[Original Tetonice]

OT does your credible knowledge include your point that the primary spring squeezes the belt?

...MAX

Next time your in the neighboorhood we will go and test your theory. Or you can do the same test on your own.

1st Test......Remove the primary spring from your TRA go out to the steepest hill you can find and set a highmark.

2nd Test....Re-install the primary spring into the TRA go out to the same hill and set a highmark right next to the highmark you set in test #1.

Every Internal Part In The TRA Contributes To Squeezing The Belt...How efficiant is your clutch in your manual pickup truck when your "Throw Out Bearing " has gone bad ? How would the pressure plates respond ?

Let us know the distance between the 2 highmarks

OT

 

[baD-MAX]

What theory did I mention?? The primary provides closing RESISTANCE for the arms/rollers/pins/wt.. The arms etc provide belt squeeze. Making a himark with or without a spring has no relevance to the question. A pickup clutch works just the opposite, the springs engage the clutch plates. When your foot pushes the clutch pedal down this pressure disengages the clutch plates.

I'll run my sled with no primary spring, you run your sled with a spring that has a rate of 1000#/2000#. With all that belt squeeze you should easily make the himark.

...MAX

...MAX

 

[Little Eddy]

Why don't we change this thread to a "poll"...........who all would like to have OT banned from the snowest forums ? I cann't remember ever reading anything as idiotic and childish as what he has posted to this thread.

 

[hatchers]

nailing jello to a tree is easier then talking clutching with OT...

OT has tried to flip the script and say he ment "the ramps move when you chage the clicker position".....its too late OT, you said what you said for a long time, and it was "the ramps will move while you ride" <----that was the incorrect statement you made