too much ski lift

[trappersnapper]

Rode new 800 nice ride but when it gets real steep have to back out due too wheeling over even deep pow.

 

[2005 1m]

155 or 163? 2.6 or 3''? I'm on the 163 x 2.6 and I would definitely disagree at least for that sled; I also feel like I have my suspension very close to perfect (for the walker clickers anyway). Mine gets the skis up a foot or so off the snow and just goes...

 

[trappersnapper]

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163 coil over shocks

 

[trappersnapper]

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2.6

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

Rode new 800 nice ride but when it gets real steep have to back out due too wheeling over even deep pow.

http://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=405791

Read here.
Tightening the rear track shock spring and loosening the front track shock spring both will help the situation.
Keep going with the rear til you regain ski control.
I had to re-spring. Not everyone does.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

155 or 163? 2.6 or 3''? I'm on the 163 x 2.6 and I would definitely disagree at least for that sled; I also feel like I have my suspension very close to perfect (for the walker clickers anyway). Mine gets the skis up a foot or so off the snow and just goes...

How can you disagree with someone else's experience?

Obviously he rides steeper chit than you, or weighs more, or rides more aggressively.........
And thats ok. Its his experience not yours. You don't need to defend your sled.

These things stock are wheelie machines on any sort of steep.
More so when its deep.
MY experience.

 

[2005 1m]

How can you disagree with someone else's experience?

Obviously he rides steeper chit than you, or weighs more, or rides more aggressively.........
And thats ok. Its his experience not yours. You don't need to defend your sled.

These things stock are wheelie machines on any sort of steep.
More so when its deep.
MY experience.

Umm, ok... I'm not here to argue with you, or him, or anyone for that matter. All I was getting at is that these sleds are pretty damn good compared to others out of the box once you do a little playing around with the stock setup. Understand I've ridden a lot of different sleds and this is the first Polaris I've ever owned - I'm not some Polaris loyalist or here to defend them; in fact I was pretty hesitant to pull the trigger. By the sound of it he 'rode' one and doesn't 'own' one, so I was just giving him some reassurance that these are probably the best all around, out of the box sleds out there if he was considering one.

 

[powdermuncher]

So that new engine makes enough power to lift the skis that is a fine problem to have, the old pro never had that problem. I would rather deal with that than wonder why a 800 feels more like my girlfriends summit 600
Just trying to bring some humor in here, looking forward to throw a leg over one and give it a try to see what all the hype is all about.

 

[PaulAnd]

Hey Trapper, hate to ask this.. but... how much do you weight?

 

[trappersnapper]

tt

Gear on 190 been riding 30 yrs just wanted to know to adjust suspention to lower ski lift thats all.I have ridden them all, if there motors hold up this year I would switch over.

 

[Jaynelson]

Very sensitive to read skid suspension adjustments. As said - tighten rear spring a bit and loosen front track shock until you find a good balance. If the spring threads are well lubricated - you can roll the sled on its side and make these adjustments on the mountain with no tools other than the oem shock wrench in minutes. Super easy

 

[trappersnapper]

tt

thx will doo lol

 

[Golanda]

I have had a little too much ski lift as well and I believe it is a setup issue. I plan to increase the spring load in the rear a little at a time until it is right. I also noticed it pushing (light front end) more than I would like in the corners when trail riding.

On a somewhat related topic, I was ditch banging up a small cornice drift that was a little wind blown hard the other day. I pinned it to make sure I would get over the top and the sled hooked up and stood up on end. Holly crap I never had a sled stand up so fast. The track hook-up and power took me by surprise. Needless to say I had no issues getting over the cornice. I'm guessing we will see a lot of ski lift (in a positive way) in spring conditions with this new track and motor.

 

[SRXSRULE]

Its not like the old Pro, you need to take a BIG swing at it to keep the front end down when climbing. I had to tighten my RTS about 3/4" and loosen the FTS about a 1/2". This is with the 3" track.

It also helps to roll the bars forward so you can get farther forward when climbing. Eric

 

[snobyrd]

Its not like the old Pro, you need to take a BIG swing at it to keep the front end down when climbing. I had to tighten my RTS about 3/4" and loosen the FTS about a 1/2". This is with the 3" track.

It also helps to roll the bars forward so you can get farther forward when climbing. Eric

Iv done just that, tighter rear,soft front and im still wheeling,my riding weight is prob 185 lbs.
Im now tempted to install my raptors to try somthing else, but im thinking wheeling is part of axys DNA.

 

[RMK935VA]

Iv done just that, tighter rear,soft front and im still wheeling,my riding weight is prob 185 lbs.
Im now tempted to install my raptors to try somthing else, but im thinking wheeling is part of axys DNA.

I have revalved Walker Evans shocks (Carl's) and I run the midweight rear track shock spring (230 I believe). It is perfect. It packs the skis but not too high. It is very controllable. I have the 163 by 2.6. The sled has the best trail/mountain ride of any sled that I have had.

Foot position is important on this sled and it is different than the 11 and 13 Pros that I owned. I am learning that aspect of it as I ride it more.

 

[Teth-Air]

So I have been fighting this problem since I got my 163 x 2.6. With tightening the rear shock and loosening the front skid shock and shortening the limiter strap, the control while climbing got much better but the ride was crap on the beat up trail. I also put the skis to 40" wide for control. Now I installed this z-bros K.I.S.S. coupler and I can run the rear shock much softer and its good on the bumps.

http://zbrozracing.com/k-i-s-s-coupling-bracket-polaris-pro-rmk-axys

Anyway with the rear working, I decided I needed to address the front end, there is no way a tree sled should be 40" wide. I tried some 2015 spindles and the sled was so much more stable. This allowed me to go narrower at 39" and the sled was still super stable. Now I have my old proto-type offset spindles on and am running 38" and may even go to 37". The picture here shows my 15 and 16 both at 38" and you can see that this change allowed the 16 to stand on one ski like the 15. I rode mine and a buddies 163 x 3" stocker yesterday and the improvement in mine was unmistakable and not just for control but also for less trenching. The shorter spindles brought out the sweet spot for balance like I love about on the 15. There is nothing supporting the sleds in this picture.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j4nag4vifw2wu6m/2015-12-27 15.38.46.jpg?dl=0

 

[snobyrd]

For powder performance,is there a point where the rear track shock is too stiff and creates a neg effect in powder? Im still refering to climbing .

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

For powder performance,is there a point where the rear track shock is too stiff and creates a neg effect in powder? Im still refering to climbing .

In a straight powder smooth climb, no.
However a rough ride will make a cut up stepped slope beat you up more.
Also a suspension that soaks up chatter on a run in will allow you to be less off balance when the tight maneuvers need to happen.



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[snobyrd]

What about the front suspension. I checked my sag and its got 1 3/8", acourding to skinz in thier 4 part series "shock therapy", they say 3/4 of an inch sag,whos right?