Toe-out? In? How much?

[rotax]

I installed the Bark Buster front and misplaced the instructions. I believe it says how to set the toe-in/out..and how much.
Can anyone let me know what this should be, or know what works better/worse for type of conditions?

Currently I set it up with a toe-IN.
Being, about 1/2" narrower on the front compared to the rear of the skis.

 

[ruffryder]

I don't know about the ts setup, but I run about 1/4 -1/2 an inch toe OUT. If you have the stock bushings and sloppy front suspension, good luck getting any sort of accurate measurement... I can't get an accurate measurement for the life of me still... but it might have something to do with me hitting stuff all the time..... lol

 

[Duddin]

We always set it at 1/4 toe out on the sleds we set-up to sell.

 

[rotax]

thanks guys. i'll shoot for ~ 1/4" OUT then!

 

[modsledr]

Negative Camber also helps eliminate the twitchyness a ton...at least on the '08's.

Thread the lower A-arm heim joints out about 1/2", then re-tighten the lock nut. This helped more than anything else (toe-in, toe-out...didn't matter).

FYI...Toe-in helps the sled roll into a carve when counter steering.

 

[ruffryder]

FYI...Toe-in helps the sled roll into a carve when counter steering.

My sled handled like crap with it setup that way... Something about the skis not coming to the same conclusion about trajectory when trying to go off a jump. BTW if you want to have toe in... do your alignment with the skis in the air.... doh!

 

[rotax]

Negative Camber also helps eliminate the twitchyness a ton...at least on the '08's.

Thread the lower A-arm heim joints out about 1/2", then re-tighten the lock nut. This helped more than anything else (toe-in, toe-out...didn't matter).

FYI...Toe-in helps the sled roll into a carve when counter steering.

ok, been doing a lot more thinking and reading and trying to grasp how toe and camber works or effects a snowmobile. especially in a non racing pov.

i think i grasp how the camber thing can be effective...after visualizing what the suspension would or should like through its full range of motion (fully extended to fully compressed)..

i can also see now how the toe-in can help or possibly make carving (on 1 ski) quicker/easier.

what exactly does toe-out do. i've been reading and rereading about its effects on a track or race car type environment..but can't visualize it for a snowmobile application.


thanks for the feedback! got me thinking!

 

[0007]

Best way for toe adjustment is put a bungee from ski to ski and then set to 0
Toe in causes darting

 

[modsledr]

ok, been doing a lot more thinking and reading and trying to grasp how toe and camber works or effects a snowmobile. especially in a non racing pov.

i think i grasp how the camber thing can be effective...after visualizing what the suspension would or should like through its full range of motion (fully extended to fully compressed)..

i can also see now how the toe-in can help or possibly make carving (on 1 ski) quicker/easier.

what exactly does toe-out do. i've been reading and rereading about its effects on a track or race car type environment..but can't visualize it for a snowmobile application.

thanks for the feedback! got me thinking!

Toe out basically has the 2 ski's pulling against each other. Toe in has them pushing against each other. I think the general effect is that with toe out, the pressure is on the back 1/2 of the ski due to a "funnel" effect. With toe in, the pressure on the front 1/2 as it tries to push the tips together.

Of course, this is just describing riding in a straight line.

Ruffy, I wasn't thinking about the effects on jumping.