I'm not that damned fat .... yet. Lol.
But yeah, it does make it tough to set a sled up for somone whose ride weight (fully geared up w/ pack) is 310-320 lbs or so
That's what I meant.
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That's what I meant.
I'm guessing because she gets a fat check from them, just like all of the other premier riders who promote a product.
I bet you would wear a Justin Bieber t-shirt if he gave a $1000 to do so.
That would be a hard one.
As good as t-sled treated Amber there was no reason for her to leave, other than the skid did not do what she needed and the kmod does. There is a huge right up on here all about it.
One big reason I bring it up is because I see all these guys running the t-skid and think its great, until my stocker does the same thing with very little money in it. Maybe they did not set it up right but some of them have spent plenty of time trying. I am still open to a real comparison but from the results I have seen and dealt with I personally trying to save the next guy the trouble. The brand new t-skid should be better as it is a coupled skid just like the proven kmod but the geometry and mounting locations still have me questioning whats going to happen, as far as shocks it sounds like both have good shock on the premium package so that should not be a major issue. To all you guys running t-skids have you ever tried the kmod, anyone that wants to try one out and is around here just get a hold of me. I see so many spend money on whatever, this is one where I know its worth the money and don't want someone getting something less for the same money.
BTW, there are other skids out there as well that may work better for some people and even the t-skid may work for some, but with a new product vs a proven one I would wait and see if you can compare at the very least.
mountainhorse, there is a big difference between the need to promote kmod and the need to save people there hard earned money for something that will provide amazing results, I could say the same about you promoting t-sled. We will both do our thing but one thing I can promise you, if I get a chance to compare the two skids I will give either the credit they deserve. One may be better different rider styles who knows and I hope I get the chance to compare, but the old skid, not a chance. Yes I have spent some time on one but very little. I also don't know if it was the newest version, setup to keep the skis down and it was to planted, setup to feel nimble and skis lift, (I would take my AC skid over it) no matter how it was setup it will not sidehill like the kmod will, I was able to hold lines a lot steeper and recover easier, and it give control, it lets you decide what you want for ski lift if any and doesn't force the skis down and damper handling . Mind you the kmod I have is the cheap conversion and I still saw such an improvement its worth every penny. Granted the t-skid I rode is not mine and I have not spent hrs on the phone trying to make it work (the reason I don't bring it up) I can't really say I'm sure, thats why I say the ones I have dealt with leaving it open for people to make up there mind, as you and other that like it do.
m8magicandmystery,
keep it up, we know what where doing
As good as t-sled treated Amber there was no reason for her to leave, other than the skid did not do what she needed and the kmod does. There is a huge right up on here all about it.
One big reason I bring it up is because I see all these guys running the t-skid and think its great, until my stocker does the same thing with very little money in it. Maybe they did not set it up right but some of them have spent plenty of time trying. I am still open to a real comparison but from the results I have seen and dealt with I personally trying to save the next guy the trouble. The brand new t-skid should be better as it is a coupled skid just like the proven kmod but the geometry and mounting locations still have me questioning whats going to happen, as far as shocks it sounds like both have good shock on the premium package so that should not be a major issue. To all you guys running t-skids have you ever tried the kmod, anyone that wants to try one out and is around here just get a hold of me. I see so many spend money on whatever, this is one where I know its worth the money and don't want someone getting something less for the same money.
BTW, there are other skids out there as well that may work better for some people and even the t-skid may work for some, but with a new product vs a proven one I would wait and see if you can compare at the very least.
mountainhorse, there is a big difference between the need to promote kmod and the need to save people there hard earned money for something that will provide amazing results, I could say the same about you promoting t-sled. We will both do our thing but one thing I can promise you, if I get a chance to compare the two skids I will give either the credit they deserve. One may be better different rider styles who knows and I hope I get the chance to compare, but the old skid, not a chance. Yes I have spent some time on one but very little. I also don't know if it was the newest version, setup to keep the skis down and it was to planted, setup to feel nimble and skis lift, (I would take my AC skid over it) no matter how it was setup it will not sidehill like the kmod will, I was able to hold lines a lot steeper and recover easier, and it give control, it lets you decide what you want for ski lift if any and doesn't force the skis down and damper handling . Mind you the kmod I have is the cheap conversion and I still saw such an improvement its worth every penny. Granted the t-skid I rode is not mine and I have not spent hrs on the phone trying to make it work (the reason I don't bring it up) I can't really say I'm sure, thats why I say the ones I have dealt with leaving it open for people to make up there mind, as you and other that like it do.
m8magicandmystery,
keep it up, we know what where doing
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Hands on????
1) Simple question WyoBoy. Have you ever had a Timbersled Mt. Tamer on your own sled?
2) Have you spent any significant saddle time on a Timbersled Mt Tamer?
3) If yes, what sled/power and when did this happen?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.. everyone.
It may not offer our readers any help when to bash on a product you have no significant personal experience with in every thread that pops up on this topic.
1) Simple question WyoBoy. Have you ever had a Timbersled Mt. Tamer on your own sled?
2) Have you spent any significant saddle time on a Timbersled Mt Tamer?
3) If yes, what sled/power and when did this happen?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.. everyone.
It may not offer our readers any help when to bash on a product you have no significant personal experience with in every thread that pops up on this topic.
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I can tell you from direct experience with these people that this is NOT the case with Amber. There is NO "fat check" flowing there... She uses what she believes in.
Like I said, I'M GUESSING.
But that being said, I'd never trust what a paid (either with money or feee gear) endorser says about anything. I tend to rely on what I have seen or have heard from people that aren't being compensated one way or another.
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IdahoPowderHound
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Im guessing you havnt spent much time around any of these ridders at all then. It works two ways, either a product works or it doesnt. this will vary from rider to rider and sled to sled of coarse. But the principal is the same. most of these riders will run products that they like not just cause there free to them. the stuff must work or they will not support the product. Everyone thinks "Sponsored" riders get a fat check to go powder carve and screw around all season and look good but thats not it at all. The Sponser wants to know how good there product is in both durrability and rideability so they expect agressive testing and usefull feedback. I have heard more bias ranting about how good a product is then another on this site by lots of people that have no idea about sponsorship.
Can't use them (stock rails) on any aftermarket skid with an XP. So $2000 and up is as low as you can go. Sucks.
MH, my first post states I have never owned one, I have spent some time on one, not enough to say I tried everything, but the owner said they did. and like I said from what I have seen I will take a AC skid with better shocks setup right. They still said the t-sled was better than the stock one but I could do the same things with mine as theres, but I can't do half the stuff I can with the kmod, so I would assume even the new t-skid will do more seeing how it is coupled.
All I'm saying is check your options, some guys swear by the t-skid but have never tried anything else, most havent even tried to make the stock skid work.
For the die hard t-sled guys, if it works for you great, for my style it didn't and can't see any advantage over the kmod but hope I can compare at some point to find out the difference. As far as boosted sleds go, any coupled suspension is prob worth the money, after having the kmod I think boost is a waste without it, even on 6lbs at 10000ft.
All I'm saying is check your options, some guys swear by the t-skid but have never tried anything else, most havent even tried to make the stock skid work.
For the die hard t-sled guys, if it works for you great, for my style it didn't and can't see any advantage over the kmod but hope I can compare at some point to find out the difference. As far as boosted sleds go, any coupled suspension is prob worth the money, after having the kmod I think boost is a waste without it, even on 6lbs at 10000ft.
Wrong- Tom,s Evolution skid works w/ stock rails.I have a Timbersled skid. Pro,s are it dosnt hold snow ,had to add Evol R shock to work well and dont like the wear is slide mechanism.It is extremely adjustable for any condition or HP.Tom,s skid works very well and has good transfer with Fox shocks at different price ranges.
Last time I heard you can use the stock rails on the kmod, and thought the same on the t-skid,
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2821432#post2821432
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2821432#post2821432
Taken from T-sled's page:
- Kit saves 14 lbs. with Fox Float Evol shocks
- Shock Options: 1st EXIT X0 IFP, 2nd EXIT X1 Adj., 3rd Fox Float Evol, 4th Fox Float Evol-X Adj.
- Suspension Kit Includes: 2 arm assemblies, 2 shocks, 6 cross shafts, limiter strap, Bolt kit & Needed hardware
- Rail Kit Includes: 2 slide rails, Polaris Hyfax, front rail caps, bottom out pads, track adjusters
- Rails can be Black Powder Coated for an additional $75 (adds 7-10 days to delivery)
- Custom rails are required with the XP kit.
- Note: We strongly recommend the use of our stronger XP Drop Brackets. A coupling suspension will put more stress on the drop brackets and the ones on the XP are very weak.
- Note: Mtn Tamer kits require custom Timbersled shocks, OEM shocks will not work.
Choose options to build your kit and calculate total price!
Arm Color:Shock Option:
$1865.00Rails:
$475.00Axle Wheel Kits:
$135.00Anti Stab Kit:
$0.00Drop Bracket Kit:
$0.00Ice Scratchers:
$0.00Ship To:
$80.00 Total: 2555.00
2600 is aweful spendy, IMO. With those prices, it makes a guy more ambitious to make the stock skid work.
I did check with Tom's and even that is $1500.
There was a time when I could justify that, but now, not so much. Too much money all to find out that it may not work for you. When I had the turbo installed on my XP I had already researched it, talked with the builder for hours, rode another sled that he built for an entire day that is identical to mine and he delivered it back to me, rode with me that day and set it up. So I could justify the $4300. But to drop an average of $2000, to get a box from UPS to set it up yourself.....
You can re-use your axle and rear idlers... anti stab is an option, brackets are an option.
On the XP's... with ANY coupling suspension... the lightweight stock drop brackets are apt to fold and cause other problems with the tunnel... New drop brackets, IMO, on the XP with a coupling suspension are a must for durability and reliability.
The Timbersled Mt. Tamer XP kit with the Z-Broz EXIT X-0 shocks, with rails, hifax and hardware included is $1950.00. ($1475 for the Suspension with EXIT Shocks, $475 for the rails).
The rails in the Timbersled are more stout than the factory Ski-Doo rails.
The Timbersled Mt. Tamer kit for the XP will allow you to pull out the stock skid...remove the rear axle and idler wheels and as a complete skid and sell your stocker so you can cut the final cost a fair bit.
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On the XP's... with ANY coupling suspension... the lightweight stock drop brackets are apt to fold and cause other problems with the tunnel... New drop brackets, IMO, on the XP with a coupling suspension are a must for durability and reliability.
The Timbersled Mt. Tamer XP kit with the Z-Broz EXIT X-0 shocks, with rails, hifax and hardware included is $1950.00. ($1475 for the Suspension with EXIT Shocks, $475 for the rails).
The rails in the Timbersled are more stout than the factory Ski-Doo rails.
The Timbersled Mt. Tamer kit for the XP will allow you to pull out the stock skid...remove the rear axle and idler wheels and as a complete skid and sell your stocker so you can cut the final cost a fair bit.
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Looks like the kmod changes the rails also, pretty comparable pricing on the xp.
I was the same way, not sure if it would work for the money so I did the cheap conversion first time around to find out, lucky I could or I prob wouldn't have done it for more than $1000, its worth every last penny and will be going for the full skid this time, I can't justify any other mods without it, makes the sled do things it wouldn't with out it no matter what you did. No matter whos skid with a money factor I would hunt down someone with one and talk them into letting you try it, cheap may be better but it also could be a waste if you need something different.
I was the same way, not sure if it would work for the money so I did the cheap conversion first time around to find out, lucky I could or I prob wouldn't have done it for more than $1000, its worth every last penny and will be going for the full skid this time, I can't justify any other mods without it, makes the sled do things it wouldn't with out it no matter what you did. No matter whos skid with a money factor I would hunt down someone with one and talk them into letting you try it, cheap may be better but it also could be a waste if you need something different.
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swrev
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With a doubt, the brackets are necessary. Installed a Timbersled w/out the brackets, broke the stock ones in less than four hours.
I would be willing to bet no matter which one if you didn't like it you could get most of your money back out of it if not all of it.