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Timbersled Riot??
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This RIOT kit has me thinking about upgrading from my 2017 RAW as well.
Only question left is are the QS3s necessary for an average rider like myself...or can i just spin the springs on the standard shocks and control wheelies that way...
Hopefully someone will chime in soon that has seat time on the LE and the standard!
Only question left is are the QS3s necessary for an average rider like myself...or can i just spin the springs on the standard shocks and control wheelies that way...
Hopefully someone will chime in soon that has seat time on the LE and the standard!
it's been done on HUSABERG. I have a 570 that i used for a few rides. never did the tss cause u cant run it with the 70 deg gas tank.
i now have a 500 ktm selling the 570.
search my post probably 3 years ago. u will find a guy that posted the berg all set with the tss.
This RIOT kit has me thinking about upgrading from my 2017 RAW as well.
Only question left is are the QS3s necessary for an average rider like myself...or can i just spin the springs on the standard shocks and control wheelies that way...
Hopefully someone will chime in soon that has seat time on the LE and the standard!
I'd like to know also. I keep hearing how it can be "mountain" capable with the flip of the switch. What if there is no switch to flip? Also heard the rear spring rate is only 80lbs.
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you'll be able to take any excessive wheelie out with shock adjustment.
BUT, you can't just bolt one on and begin complaining, I doubt the shock upgrade kit will be spot on for most older riders that top 200lbs with gear and a 4 stroke bike.
you'll be able to take any excessive wheelie out with shock adjustment.
BUT, you can't just bolt one on and begin complaining, I doubt the shock upgrade kit will be spot on for most older riders that top 200lbs with gear and a 4 stroke bike.
I'm thinking it would be worth it for the shocks. The problem that I see for this kit and mountain riding is the tracks too short and you will be fighting the approach angle in any kind of deep snow. Lots O stucks.
M5
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portgrinder
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Mr portgtinder --Would that be the comment of an old grumpy enduro rider?
What happened to us old guys having fun.
For most of our riding the 120 is best , the last few years we had not had any
Awesome snow event. More than 2 feet fresh and i take the sled anyway
And if you run a 120 the agility is key to make it work being able to flip it around without getting stuck on direction changes.
A 120 may be more work, but it sure is a heck of a lot more fun than driving the long school-bus.
For me it is all about fun -- I could not care less about tractor up a hill at 15 MPH, I rather hit it a 40 and flip it sideways to make changes in direction as necessary .
I like to ride my bike instead of driving it.
It has been proven over and over that it is not the equipment it's the driver that makes it happen.
Different equipment = different approach results in
And that is all that matters.
There’s a lot of refinement in the standard aro even.
Duece carbide on the ski from the factory.
Lighter chassis , less rotating mass, approach angle change.
The aro 3 has lightweight extrovert drivers, full width full height paddles.
All the brake disc’s can take a speed sensor now. (Drilled lighter)
All these are in the riot also.
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Duece carbide on the ski from the factory.
Lighter chassis , less rotating mass, approach angle change.
The aro 3 has lightweight extrovert drivers, full width full height paddles.
All the brake disc’s can take a speed sensor now. (Drilled lighter)
All these are in the riot also.
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Why not just get a CMX? Yes, there is a premium but you get what you pay for...
CMX Advantages
+ Better ski/spindle
+ Better track
+ Better track approach angle
+ Further forward mounted skid
+ Belt drive
+ 129 and 137 options
+ Better build quality
+ Better customer service
CMX Advantages
+ Better ski/spindle
+ Better track
+ Better track approach angle
+ Further forward mounted skid
+ Belt drive
+ 129 and 137 options
+ Better build quality
+ Better customer service
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Texask5
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I'm definitely considering a CMX, everyone keeps talking about the approach angle on the timbersleds but to me sure they look steep when the kit is just sitting without a rider but in pictures when the skid has weight seems like the front shock drops into it's travel quite and bit and the track flattens out with it, am I way off? I do like the CMX concept of a playful skid tucked way into the bike and a decent track lengths available.
Better ski spindle?
Are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me?
I just got home from riding tonight. Rode my buddies CMX. It has nothing on the aro ski. Deep powder. And when I rode it last time in less than perfect conditions it was terrible.
New CMX ski or yeti ski?
It has the latest yeti ski on it. It will be interesting to see how good the new CMX ski is.
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I think this suspension on the Riot has a lot of potential as a deep snow skid. Back in the 4 stroke turbo sled hay days we put quite a few EZ Rydes on turbo Nytros, which is basically the same concept as the Riot skid. They worked quite well in the deep but the big difference between the two is the EZ Ryde lays almost flat in the sled so no approach angle at all. I think where the Riot is going to fall on its face is starting off, its going to want to trench. Maybe if the front shock is set to full soft it will climb up this remains to be seen. Riding this is going to be all about carrying speed and flow, just like the Yeti SS, its not your poke around and explore kit.
There's a lot about this kit that has me thinking. I cant see it being my deep snow ride but in 6 to 18 inches its probably going to be pretty fun. I would opt for the clicker shocks for sure so you have that lock out capability. The 4 year warranty on paper looks great but my past TS warranty experiences were not great so I'm not convinced that's worth anything. I don't see a lot of point in adding a TSS to this system.
Watching the vids you can see guys feet coming off the pegs in wheelies which makes me think it will want to come over backwards even on short little climbs. You might find yourself standing quite a bit more when riding, which sucks in the thick trees we ride in.
So many questions, sure be nice to try before you buy.
M5
There's a lot about this kit that has me thinking. I cant see it being my deep snow ride but in 6 to 18 inches its probably going to be pretty fun. I would opt for the clicker shocks for sure so you have that lock out capability. The 4 year warranty on paper looks great but my past TS warranty experiences were not great so I'm not convinced that's worth anything. I don't see a lot of point in adding a TSS to this system.
Watching the vids you can see guys feet coming off the pegs in wheelies which makes me think it will want to come over backwards even on short little climbs. You might find yourself standing quite a bit more when riding, which sucks in the thick trees we ride in.
So many questions, sure be nice to try before you buy.
M5
Don't argue on what is better pick your poison and ride.
Just for information the TS ARO ski with the duce bar all dialled and ground to my liking and the ski rubber shimmed to keep the ski running flat is hard to argue with. The Triple point turns easier. So far I have not ridden a setup I like better.
But than again I worked o mine till I liked it best , so who is to say I could not end up in the same spot on a CMX or Yeti. Usually my bike is best because its mine and there ready to ride every time I want to go.
Just for information the TS ARO ski with the duce bar all dialled and ground to my liking and the ski rubber shimmed to keep the ski running flat is hard to argue with. The Triple point turns easier. So far I have not ridden a setup I like better.
But than again I worked o mine till I liked it best , so who is to say I could not end up in the same spot on a CMX or Yeti. Usually my bike is best because its mine and there ready to ride every time I want to go.
Are you sure it had the new 2019 Yeti ski on it?
There is a marked/noticeable improvement in the 2019 Yeti ski versus any previous Yeti ski models.....I have one on a new CMX kit and it handles very well, I love it and was skeptical at first because I have not liked other/older Yeti skis. But my last ride was 2-3 weeks ago so maybe in this more setup snow it isn't as good? What kind of snow conditions were you in?
There is a marked/noticeable improvement in the 2019 Yeti ski versus any previous Yeti ski models.....I have one on a new CMX kit and it handles very well, I love it and was skeptical at first because I have not liked other/older Yeti skis. But my last ride was 2-3 weeks ago so maybe in this more setup snow it isn't as good? What kind of snow conditions were you in?
I guess I’m not 100% sure. It is a 19 CMX kit that has the new track on it but it does not have the new CMX ski for some reason.The previous time when I rode it conditions were actually pretty good but on the ridges it had been blowing hard and there was kind of a windcrust on top. I didn’t even hardly notice it on my aro ski but when I hopped on his bike it was bad bad bad. It’s possible that it is an 18 1/2 model kit? He bought it from a Honda dealer who didn’t Snow bike.
M5 I hear you about the part in the video where the guy’s feet come off the pegs and his bike going sideways. All I could think about when I saw that was a ridge I like to climb in spring with cornice bumps in it that are steep and big. If i were to fall off the wrong side I’m in big trouble.
So don’t have the rear shock on “wheelie” setting in that situation?
They called the settings “wheelie” , “track” , “lockout”.
It sure seems like between spring Preload and those settings you could find a balanced setup.
(I only know with the 18 aro the lack of ski lift and too much ski pressure was a handling trait pretty hard to cure)
