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Timbersled Mountain Tamer Skid

Pros or cons? Is this that much of a difference over stock?
I'm not a big jumper or anything, wondering more if I would notice
that big of a difference boondocking in the trees.

Thanks,

MM
 
if it was a cat..it would be a big diff..on the pro..stock..not much although I would think it would be a little better(the pro skid is a copy of a holz alpha x skid and is very very good....) with that said..not sure its worth the price unless you are making big power and trying to keep the ski's down better...there is a thread with a vid of new cat and pro racing uphill in deep snow..watch it and see the diff in stock skids..it is one reason the pro goes so good...
 
when you adjust the skid to full couple it does keep the ski's down better. I didnt notice more traction but I would think it was better with less ski lift.
 
I would have to disagree with the others here. The stock pro works well, but not that well. It is not just about keeping the front down, but the more important part is how the suspension climbs up on the snow. I have ridden my brand new, Dragon, and Pro and yes the Pro works significantly better, but after some fine tuning, I would never run the stock setup versus the Timbersled. It flat out works better in the trees keeping the front down and the tack edge in the snow. In throttle fluctuation it gets back on the snow better and holds rpm's better. I bought the fit kit, and then also bought straight rails so i could see if there was eny difference or any need for new rails for a NA sled. I have yet to run the straight rails, but will report back soon. I will attach some pictures of my setup, and the 2012 setup is even better in the fact that adjustment is effortless. I will never run stock again after seeing what this suspension can do.

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Yeah, I'm with Ridin High here....

I got the new pro last year. Rode it stock for a few months to learn the chassis (was coming from a Rev chassis) and then I started modding it. I really wanted to FEEL the difference in each modification that I did so I went slowly as much as I wanted to pile it all on there at once!! After a full season of SLOWLY making changes I can confidently say, stock is great but the modifications I made were even better! ;)

Anyway, the first thing I did was step into the TS skid. It was the 2011 skid so not his new updated one. I rode that skid with the exit shocks for another month or more before I made any other changes to the sled. My preferred style of riding is technical mtn riding. Lots of 'boondocking' but on steep terrain and in areas where failure is not really an option!!

What I found MOST impressive about the TS skid was it's ability to soak things up. Transfer was good, ability to get up on top of the snow and actually WORK was wonderful but for me the scariest thing is when I'm side-hilling above some really nasty stuff and I see a transition in the snow. Previously, they were doable but they took a lot of effort from me and every time my heart would STOP while I was doing them. The first time I hit a nasty one on my TS skid I was all sorts of braced and ready for a buck or a slide out... no such thing, she just cruised right through it!!! That right there to ME made it worth it because that is where I can total a sled or stick my line!!

since then I've done a bunch of work to the sled, including a turbo. Again, with a slight geometry change putting it into the coupled position (after adding tunnel stiffeners!) I was amazed at how solid the sled felt!! This season I stepped into the 2012 skid since having the ability to adjust the coupling will be PRICELESS for me having a turbo and going from TIGHT technical trees where some wheely power is good to wide open LONG chute climbs in Revy where I want that nose PLANTED!!

I also stepping into the front end this season with my sled. I had a chance to ride a demo sled of Allen's last season that had the front end done as well and whooo-hoooo was it fun!! Responsive and just plain FUN is the best way I can describe it! And that is for technical, tight trees, small back country hits, general RIDING!

The one thing I did NOT get to test was just the front end configuration. However.... One of my friends who was riding with us on that day Allen had a demo sled out (we were actually demoing the MtnHorse kits and he was short one so we had to take turns on those and his Pro with his full suspension). After one ride on that new suspension my friend went home and started crunching the numbers to step into his front end for this season. She swapped into a new pro and before she even rode it had his new front end on it. I just got feedback that she took it out for the first time a few weeks ago and was AMAZED at how well it worked for her! She is NOT an aftermarket person usually and didn't want to go all out but really wanted a sled that made her life easier when boondocking. The new front end did that for her and she is SOLD on his products!!

So that's the feedback I can give. It's really tough to know someone's riding style and if you're on the same page describing things to them. tough to put things in words when it's really a feel you get on the mtn... different snow conditions can really make certain differences shine too ya know???

I'm stoked I took the time to mod my sled slowly this time around, the last time I did a sled build I pretty much did it over the summer so it was just a whole new machine when the following winter came! Being able to see slight changes each time I did something different was REALLY nice to know what products were working and what weren't.... and I would say, for me, the TS skid WORKED!

Oh, and a slight addition here.... I've had a few people hop on my sled just to take her for a spin and more than once I have gotten GREAT feedback on how she handles. A lot of people don't get into detail for me but they say she just feels good (which she does, she stays under you and working for you rather than against you!) I even had Brett Turcotte a big time jumper and pretty much anything wild kinda guy have to ride it up and around while I ran back and got another sled for him to huck on (I wasn't game to let him huck on my baby!!) and he said she felt really solid and asked me what kind of suspension I had on her!!! So big props from a BIG jumper there!!
 
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Thanks for all the feed back. I'm having Fastrax change the drivers and trim the rails and do the antistab with modified chaincase to give me some extra clearance on my 2.5 CE. Looks like I'll ride with the stock skid for a while before I upgrade to the mountain tamer. Thanks for the advise Skadi about taking the time to feel each mod before going to the next, plus I'm in no hurry to spend another 3K.
Thank,
MM
 
Installed the MT on my 2012 RMK and have one ride on it so far. Down the trail I couldn't tell a noticeable difference. Hopefully we start getting some snow soon so I can test it in the trees and one the steep stuff and report back. I know the guys at timbersled are always committed to delivering a great product so I am confident it will work but for the money a carl's cycle shock kit may be just as effective. Everyone do your snow dance and I will report back soon.
 
Installed the MT on my 2012 RMK and have one ride on it so far. Down the trail I couldn't tell a noticeable difference. Hopefully we start getting some snow soon so I can test it in the trees and one the steep stuff and report back. I know the guys at timbersled are always committed to delivering a great product so I am confident it will work but for the money a carl's cycle shock kit may be just as effective. Everyone do your snow dance and I will report back soon.

Did you do the install?? Is it the 2012 kit with the adjuster or the 11 with shims?? Trust me, mess around with it a little bit and I guarantee you can bust down a bumpy trail at 60+ miles an hour with ease where as you wont be able to do it with near the confidence ont he stocker even with the carls mods, iv had both.
 
It's going to depend a great deal on how you ride, I have had and ridden the timbersled as well as the alpha x and of course the stock pro,dragon and the fabcraft.
On my apex and the dragons TS was a HUGE improvment over stock in all areas, now riding back to back on the same day, 2 dragons one alpha x and one TS...both set up perfect, there is very little difference between the 2 suspentions, just 2 ways to skin a cat. The timbersled of course is much easier to adjust.
Now for the pro IMHO I would be hard pressed to change over to the TS as the small changes vs the money ratio is very very close. I can ride and be quite happy with either suspention.
As far as the front goes I do like the holz/zbros better than the timber sled,with proper shocks the zbros/holz/stock is near perfect on the pro. On my apex and a friends nytro, timbersled front was lightyears better than stock.

I guess all in all the stock out of the box pro will ride better than 95% of the riders out there, and as sleds develop more and more the room for aftermarket items improvments get less and less, and in some cases are worse than the stock items. We see this in all forms of motorsports so i'm not just picking on sleds.
I would suggest back to back rides on the suspention you are thinking about and than decide what you like, Alans products are very very well built and will take a HUGE shot (trust me I know) and come back for more. On a high HP sled the ability to tune ski lift out is very very nice as well...well thats my 2 cents...lol :face-icon-small-coo
 
Did you do the install?? Is it the 2012 kit with the adjuster or the 11 with shims?? Trust me, mess around with it a little bit and I guarantee you can bust down a bumpy trail at 60+ miles an hour with ease where as you wont be able to do it with near the confidence ont he stocker even with the carls mods, iv had both.

It's an 11 with the shims but that 2012 looks pretty trick. I do know I was busting down a completely mogulled trail pretty dang fast and I felt like the front shocks were having a harder time then the rear. I stayed pretty flat most of the time but bottomed the fronts a couple of times. Hopefully soon I can ride it side by side with my buddy's and get a comparison of how it works.
 
My last 3 Timbersled skids have performed flawlessly for me.

It took a couple of rides on each install to get the skids dialed in... but once there, I only checked the air occasionally or adjusted to the conditions.

I'm excited to try out the new "on-the-fly" coupling adjustment.

Jakey, I could get my skid to bottom on my sled.. but a bottoming a suspension occasionally is normal... just like in my truck, the RZR or MX bike. Constant bottoming of a suspension generally is an indication that it is not setup well for your style of riding or your particular sled.

Should be here in one week...

WOOO HOO!!


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