I agree there's too many people on the planet, but why do you say we've exceeded the carrying capacity of the sun????? The sun's giving us 165,000 terawatts of power continuously.
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I agree there's too many people on the planet, but why do you say we've exceeded the carrying capacity of the sun????? The sun's giving us 165,000 terawatts of power continuously.
Is that number what the sun generates as a whole or just the portion of it tha the earth receives?
Where did you get that from. First the 2 law of thermodynamics shows thart there was time before matter and there will be time after matter and that all matter is in a state of decay. And are you saying co2 created the oil we are drilling? And as for population I have seen this hype put out since the 60s and it is just that hype. Swampy
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If you look at the graph posted above you will see a huge concentration of Co2 in the atmosphere as Compared to now. When the sun shines on the earth plants take in Co2 and through the miracle of photosynthesis create carbon based lifeforms and expel Oxygen. Currently the population of the earth has exceeded the carrying capcity of the sun and we are relying on stored energy of the sun. All of that carbon in the armosphere a long time ago has been turned into oil. Matter cannot be destroyed, humans have not created any more carbon than there was when time began. Until we start recreating the power of the sun through nuclear energy we will be dependent on the stored energy of the sun in fossil fuels. The bottom line is the sun is powering everything, just not directly.
Global Warming is BS, but the envirocomies will try and blame whatever is happening on us to further their agenda, whatever that is.
I agree there's too many people on the planet, but why do you say we've exceeded the carrying capacity of the sun????? The sun's giving us 165,000 terawatts of power continuously.
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Originally Posted by chsdaddy
If you look at the graph posted above you will see a huge concentration of Co2 in the atmosphere as Compared to now. When the sun shines on the earth plants take in Co2 and through the miracle of photosynthesis create carbon based lifeforms and expel Oxygen. Currently the population of the earth has exceeded the carrying capcity of the sun and we are relying on stored energy of the sun. All of that carbon in the armosphere a long time ago has been turned into oil. Matter cannot be destroyed, humans have not created any more carbon than there was when time began. Until we start recreating the power of the sun through nuclear energy we will be dependent on the stored energy of the sun in fossil fuels. The bottom line is the sun is powering everything, just not directly.
Global Warming is BS, but the envirocomies will try and blame whatever is happening on us to further their agenda, whatever that is.
I agree there's too many people on the planet, but why do you say we've exceeded the carrying capacity of the sun????? The sun's giving us 165,000 terawatts of power continuously.
There's a Time Life article where greenies like Al Gore suggest that we are heading for another ice age. That was in 1974. What a difference 35 years makes in a planet millions of years old. When will they make up their mind? Fire or ice? Maybe its time to quit listening to the bs and start using our best God given gift-the ability to think for ourselves.
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Basically the earth intercepts 174 Petawatts (174,000 Terawatts) of continuous energy from the sun. The a cross section of the earth is 127,400,000 km². This works out to 1366 watts of power, per square meter of the planet, as seen from the Sun. About 750 Watts per square meter actually makes it to the earth's surface (55%). Of course this all varies due to the Earth's orbit not being perfectly round.
The Terawatt number is important. Because we use about 15 Terawatts of energy, continuously worldwide.
So, if you caught a square meter of light for one hour, you'd make 0.75 KW/hr of power. (of course, solar cells are only 10 - 25% efficient) But, if you caught all the sunlight hitting the surface of the planet for one hour, you'd catch 95,000 Terawatt/hr of energy.
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I'll try and remember to talk to the guys at work.
There are some of em working on hi-efficiency solar cell and energy storage systems. I seem to remember talking to em a few months back and they were talking about 50-60% efficiency. Still in the experimental stage, but I thought it was interesting.
Where did you get that from. First the 2 law of thermodynamics shows thart there was time before matter and there will be time after matter and that all matter is in a state of decay. And are you saying co2 created the oil we are drilling?
Okay so where did all the fossil fuels come from??
And as for population I have seen this hype put out since the 60s and it is just that hype. Swampy
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Originally Posted by chsdaddy
If you look at the graph posted above you will see a huge concentration of Co2 in the atmosphere as Compared to now. When the sun shines on the earth plants take in Co2 and through the miracle of photosynthesis create carbon based lifeforms and expel Oxygen. Currently the population of the earth has exceeded the carrying capcity of the sun and we are relying on stored energy of the sun. All of that carbon in the armosphere a long time ago has been turned into oil. Matter cannot be destroyed, humans have not created any more carbon than there was when time began. Until we start recreating the power of the sun through nuclear energy we will be dependent on the stored energy of the sun in fossil fuels. The bottom line is the sun is powering everything, just not directly.
Global Warming is BS, but the envirocomies will try and blame whatever is happening on us to further their agenda, whatever that is.
I agree there's too many people on the planet, but why do you say we've exceeded the carrying capacity of the sun????? The sun's giving us 165,000 terawatts of power continuously.
We are using energy not given to us directly by the sun to distribute the food we all need to survive, keep warm in the winter time etc.
The cycle is . . . .. energy from the sun + Co2 = oxygen we breathe + something we eat, or something a cow eats that we eat, or wood we burn, or plant matter that gets compressed into coal and eventually turns to diamonds that we use to get laid and make the population grow.
LOL we are all on the same side, I think
Okay so where did all the fossil fuels come from??
Please tell me and what do you identify as fossil fuels, thanks. Swampy
Please tell me and what do you identify as fossil fuels, thanks. Swampy
Highest efficiency, mass produced cells, run around 18%.
Oh, there are higher efficiency photovoltaics. They have multi layer cells, each layer is tuned to a particular light frequency, I think those hit around 36%. The world record is like 43%. And, their shooting for 50%. All sorts of spectrum splitting technology is being used.
They also are using concentration mirrors, doesn't increase efficiency. But, does get more power for cheap.
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The current theory of petroleum's source is it is the result of high pressure, and heat, of dead algae and plankton, collected on the sea floor.
Land plants turned into coal.
Plants and plankton and algae, all grew from photosynthesis. Which takes in Sunlight and CO2 and water; to form sugars, which the plant or plankton, would use as fuel, much the same way humans do. So, technically, I believe petroleum is from CO2. Of course petroleum is C8H18.
Anyway, I find it hard to believe that all petroleum came from plants and microbes. I still wonder is some of it was here during the formation of the planet.
Land plants turned into coal.
Plants and plankton and algae, all grew from photosynthesis. Which takes in Sunlight and CO2 and water; to form sugars, which the plant or plankton, would use as fuel, much the same way humans do. So, technically, I believe petroleum is from CO2. Of course petroleum is C8H18.
Anyway, I find it hard to believe that all petroleum came from plants and microbes. I still wonder is some of it was here during the formation of the planet.
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