Thanks A lot Axys!!!!!!
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Yes sir, can't put a price on fun. And when some of us spend half our winter days in the hills, capable reliable functional sleds are paramount to that fun. Obviously we have to live, but I budget accordingly so I can afford to do it and greatly enjoy having reliable rigs.
There is always strategy in pricing new models in powersports, trucks, and sports cars. If lots of inventory of the prior generation exists, pricing new models high only helps sell through of current stock (that production decision was made long ago). It's a purposeful decision. More sell through of the new models can be had with discount programs to the dealers later in the season (next fall). Early adopters can pay a premium for limited models - it's all about margin and volume mix.
Competition is always a factor, and no OEM wants to leave money on the table. They are in this business to make money, first, and pricing strategy is marketing, not accounting. Poo is trying to see just how their new pricing will stick this spring, I think they have the most margin to work with. If spring snocheck is strong, prices will be higher this fall. If it's deemed weak, there will be deals to be had in fall/winter on 16's, just not a personalized sled. We'll see.
Competition is always a factor, and no OEM wants to leave money on the table. They are in this business to make money, first, and pricing strategy is marketing, not accounting. Poo is trying to see just how their new pricing will stick this spring, I think they have the most margin to work with. If spring snocheck is strong, prices will be higher this fall. If it's deemed weak, there will be deals to be had in fall/winter on 16's, just not a personalized sled. We'll see.
I'm thinking the in-season models are going to have raw tunnels so if you want a painted one I think you're gonna have to snowcheck.
I am finding that the money I spend on new sled payments isn't too far off of the money spent annually to keep an old sled running. I used to keep old machines going and rode them for years. I had an '05 M7 until I bought a used '13 Pro last season. Rode it all last year, sold it in less than 24 hrs, took the equity and put it down on a holdover '14. I am going to try and continue this streak on my fairly tight budget because I love riding!
It looks like I will be able to continue to roll sleds each season and gain on the equity in each one. I accept the monthly payment as the cost of the sport for me. Now I have a nice, reliable new machine all the time. I carry fewer tools and spares, I worry less and ride more, even on a Pro lol.
Sledding has always been expensive. When I bought my first new mtn sleds in 2004, selling prices were around $9000, msrp over 10 grand for a new Polaris 800 RMK. You will also notice that Polaris is right in line with the rest. An LE Cat is the same money as an LE Pro which is the same as a non turbo YammiCat LE. SkiDoo Doo is coming in a grand under since BNG's do not command much premium...
Not much has really changed. Careful shopping and planning makes turning new sleds regularly less expensive than you might think. The Axys is a steal, 400 lb 160hp ten years ago would have run you $30 grand easy.
It looks like I will be able to continue to roll sleds each season and gain on the equity in each one. I accept the monthly payment as the cost of the sport for me. Now I have a nice, reliable new machine all the time. I carry fewer tools and spares, I worry less and ride more, even on a Pro lol.
Sledding has always been expensive. When I bought my first new mtn sleds in 2004, selling prices were around $9000, msrp over 10 grand for a new Polaris 800 RMK. You will also notice that Polaris is right in line with the rest. An LE Cat is the same money as an LE Pro which is the same as a non turbo YammiCat LE. SkiDoo Doo is coming in a grand under since BNG's do not command much premium...
Not much has really changed. Careful shopping and planning makes turning new sleds regularly less expensive than you might think. The Axys is a steal, 400 lb 160hp ten years ago would have run you $30 grand easy.
That is absolutely correct....no coated anything on the "stock production" models.
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Lack of snow in the west means lack of sled buyers in the west. Western riding is all about snow, fresh snow.
Lack of buyers due to lack of snow brought end-of-season factory rebates larger than most years. Large end of season rebates means OEM needs to make more next year, hence higher prices. Higher prices may keep some people from impulse buying because on top of the price increase there is the lingering feeling of lack of snow which may bring even bigger discounts next season.
Lack of snow and lack of buyers will not improve over the summer.
Lack of snow next year will make a slightly used Axys worth 7 to 8 grand mid season if you can find a buyer because of lack of snow this season.
Who needs a sled with lack of snow? Don't let lack of snow drive you to drink and worry about lack of snow and pricing.
Think of a new uses for the sled like a coffee table beside the barby (should be hit with the kids). Longer models could be converted to a portable sluice box (make money panning for gold). Lawn ornament (get some big rocks or a old 1 ton diesel in the front yard, put the deck and sled on top) and you may get your property re-assessed as a historic sight and get a tax break.
Side benefits of lack of snow, lack of buyers, and abnormally low prices ;
You can't get rid of your sled because of lack of snow because everyone is wondering if there will be a lack of snow next year including yourself so if the snow returns you won't be sledless.
Lack of snow means lack of miles means lack of wear means everyone will have a sled capable of 10 yrs of pull and go use. Maybe 7 yr warranty is next.
Lack of snow means lack of riders means last couple of rides should be trackless means your lucky you couldn't get rid of your sled due to lack of snow and lack of buyers.
Personally, I feel lucky there is a lack of buyers due to lack of snow because I may have done a rash thing and got out of sleddin' due to lack of snow.
Without snow a sled is useless which makes it worthless which is the reason for low prices which has nothing to do with new models or reputation or current pricing (which are set due to lack of snow).
I hope next season is better because there was a lack of snow this year and I can't afford the booze again.
Lack of buyers due to lack of snow brought end-of-season factory rebates larger than most years. Large end of season rebates means OEM needs to make more next year, hence higher prices. Higher prices may keep some people from impulse buying because on top of the price increase there is the lingering feeling of lack of snow which may bring even bigger discounts next season.
Lack of snow and lack of buyers will not improve over the summer.
Lack of snow next year will make a slightly used Axys worth 7 to 8 grand mid season if you can find a buyer because of lack of snow this season.
Who needs a sled with lack of snow? Don't let lack of snow drive you to drink and worry about lack of snow and pricing.
Think of a new uses for the sled like a coffee table beside the barby (should be hit with the kids). Longer models could be converted to a portable sluice box (make money panning for gold). Lawn ornament (get some big rocks or a old 1 ton diesel in the front yard, put the deck and sled on top) and you may get your property re-assessed as a historic sight and get a tax break.
Side benefits of lack of snow, lack of buyers, and abnormally low prices ;
You can't get rid of your sled because of lack of snow because everyone is wondering if there will be a lack of snow next year including yourself so if the snow returns you won't be sledless.
Lack of snow means lack of miles means lack of wear means everyone will have a sled capable of 10 yrs of pull and go use. Maybe 7 yr warranty is next.
Lack of snow means lack of riders means last couple of rides should be trackless means your lucky you couldn't get rid of your sled due to lack of snow and lack of buyers.
Personally, I feel lucky there is a lack of buyers due to lack of snow because I may have done a rash thing and got out of sleddin' due to lack of snow.
Without snow a sled is useless which makes it worthless which is the reason for low prices which has nothing to do with new models or reputation or current pricing (which are set due to lack of snow).
I hope next season is better because there was a lack of snow this year and I can't afford the booze again.
Soooo your mad people are doing the same thing you are? If people want to sell they have to drop their price down to what people are willing to pay. If not have fun bumping your for sale thread for a year.
Like the guy in Washington.
lol. Drop the price til it sells and move on.
I ordered an axys and will be selling my sled come fall.
I hope to get 1/3rd of what i have into it.
But realistically I'll probably get 1/4.
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