teth air ?????

[Ex-Member]

ehhhmmm.... antenna length doesn't directly correlate with receiver performance. A good antenna design as well as a good impedance match to the receiver is going to make a bigger difference than simply throwing more wire at it.

Not that I know anything about it anyways.

 

[Killerk]

if you guys are having your sleds rolling on top of you with the throttle pinned on a regular basis you really need to learn how to ride.

This couldn't be further from the truth^
Fact is, in my 25+ years of smowmobiling I have seen this happen aproximately 5 to 7 times... I beleive only 1 time was the throttle pinned.
If there is any chance at all that this may happen to me, I won't take that chance!

Teth air: You can disrupt the signal by covering it with your hand?
I don't like the sound of that.

People can buy or run what they want.
I will never run a teth air, or a lefty throttle... Not worth it if there is a chance of failure to me.

 

[Teth-Air]

This couldn't be further from the truth^
Fact is, in my 25+ years of smowmobiling I have seen this happen aproximately 5 to 7 times... I beleive only 1 time was the throttle pinned.
If there is any chance at all that this may happen to me, I won't take that chance!


Teth air: You can disrupt the signal by covering it with your hand?
I don't like the sound of that.

People can buy or run what they want.
I will never run a teth air, or a lefty throttle... Not worth it if there is a chance of failure to me.

Is there a chance of your corded tether failing by getting wrapped around the bar or getting pulled off accidentally?

As long as you run some kind of tether, feel good you made the right decision.

The Teth-Air is for guys (and gals) who hate being strapped to the machine.

For your senario, just wait until you get trapped under your sled and the cord gets wrapped up into the rear suspension. This happen to my 14 yr old kid and he was unable to escape on his own.

As far as disrupting the signal, yes 2.45 GHz can be blocked with the body but this is a good thing if you use it to your advantage and design with that in mind. This is why we recommend installing the antenna on the handle bar near the flipper and the tag on your right wrist. Even if you use a lefty throttle, your right hand is going to be in range at all times while riding.

Chris

 

[Teth-Air]

ehhhmmm.... antenna length doesn't directly correlate with receiver performance. A good antenna design as well as a good impedance match to the receiver is going to make a bigger difference than simply throwing more wire at it.

Not that I know anything about it anyways.

Your right but we have found that we get better performance by running the transmitter at a slightly higher power and mismatching the antenna rather than cutting the transmitter power and having the antenna perfectly matched. Remember our goal is different from most radio designs that simply try to get the best match and farthest distance. We want strong reliable connection at short range and want the signal to drop off fast as the distance increases.

 

[NoSecondChances]

This couldn't be further from the truth^
Fact is, in my 25+ years of smowmobiling I have seen this happen aproximately 5 to 7 times... I beleive only 1 time was the throttle pinned.
If there is any chance at all that this may happen to me, I won't take that chance!

Teth air: You can disrupt the signal by covering it with your hand?
I don't like the sound of that.

People can buy or run what they want.
I will never run a teth air, or a lefty throttle... Not worth it if there is a chance of failure to me.

Guys, its easy to find faults in lots of products. I think that any innovation for our sport is a good one. Let the folks that want to run a cordless tether do so, if its not for you then fine, no need to say more than that, everything has its limitation.

I run a corded tether, lots of people tell me that I'm silly and that all it does it get caught on stuff, etc etc. I've never had a problem. Years back, I had one mod sled run away and had it not been for a very small tree and some sled angel watching over me that day, it wouldn't have been a pretty sight. I was not wearing my tether at the time. Since that day I have worn it religiously. I have seen two sleds written off due to collisions with stationary objects due to the fact their riders were not wearing their tether cords and one very close call with a sled jumping off the trailer on a sled that didn't have a tether on it. There's a reason why the RMSHA have a mandatory rule that even if you are sitting on your sled, the tether must be attached to your body, engine running or not.

Lots of guys with excuses about why they don't where them, lots of guys with excuses about why they do. Either way its a personal choice.

My personal opinion from my years of riding - if you ride long enough, at some point - a tether of any type will save you or your sled.

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[Teth-Air]

Guys, its easy to find faults in lots of products. I think that any innovation for our sport is a good one. Let the folks that want to run a cordless tether do so, if its not for you then fine, no need to say more than that, everything has its limitation.

I run a corded tether, lots of people tell me that I'm silly and that all it does it get caught on stuff, etc etc. I've never had a problem. Years back, I had one mod sled run away and had it not been for a very small tree and some sled angel watching over me that day, it wouldn't have been a pretty sight. I was not wearing my tether at the time. Since that day I have worn it religiously. I have seen two sleds written off due to collisions with stationary objects due to the fact their riders were not wearing their tether cords and one very close call with a sled jumping off the trailer on a sled that didn't have a tether on it. There's a reason why the RMSHA have a mandatory rule that even if you are sitting on your sled, the tether must be attached to your body, engine running or not.

Lots of guys with excuses about why they don't where them, lots of guys with excuses about why they do. Either way its a personal choice.

My personal opinion from my years of riding - if you ride long enough, at some point - a tether of any type will save you or your sled.

NSC

Well said, and if your still not convinced, go here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d2oRFA04rY

I have been talking to Chris Burandt about this and will be sending him a unit to test as soon as we get the shipment in.

 

[Killerk]

NoSecondChances

People can buy or run what they want.

Just discussing the topic in a discussion forum.
Just my opinion

 

[burandt]

I was hoping I would never have to here that sound ever again! LOL Thanks a lot! I'm pretty pumped to try out the Teth-Air. In the past I have used the conventional tether whenever I thought I was going to be doing something kind of gnarly. This past year I ended up getting the cord hooked around the handlebar in a pretty sticky situation. It pulled the cord, killing the sled and sending me into the trees. Bummer! Anyway, looking forward to trying the product. Chat with you all later.

Be sure to check out the new vid...Burandt's Back Country Adventure VOL. 2. Each time you watch it winter will get here sooner. LOL You can get the film at www.sledsolutions.com and slednecks.com

Later

 

[NoSecondChances]

NoSecondChances

Just discussing the topic in a discussion forum.
Just my opinion

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I will never run a teth air, or a lefty throttle... Not worth it if there is a chance of failure to me.

Killerk - Everything has risks and you saying you will never run based on the chance of failure...well...lots of things can fail on your sled. My brakes failed on my sled once coming down a steep hill onto a lake...that was fun...for about the first 1000 ft. Here's a guy that's trying to improve a safety product on sleds, I can't really see how this is a bad thing but yet many are trying to find fault with it.

Not really directed at you, and you are welcome to your opinion, its a public forum. But in classic Snowest fashion, many people have jumped in on this thread and have said it won't work, they won't run one, etc etc, long before they have even seen, tried the product or even held it in their hands.

Wouldn't it be funny if the system improved and in 7 yrs from now OEM sleds came with only cordless tethers??? Many, many people said we would never see an EFI sled due to the weight of the battery...yet here we are in 2009 with how many EFI sleds in the fleet?...... Many said we would never ever see a factory turbo.....whoops.....Don't get me started on how many said they will never make a 4 stroke snowmobile.....Hope that crow they ate was tasty....

It takes me back to a not so distant time in the past when Ski Doo released the XP and people on Snowest had lots of opinions on the sled long before it ever hit the snow. Yes it had its problems, lets not beat a dead horse. But for a sled that was going to Xplode when it hit a pinecone...they sure sold lots of 'em.

This isn't the Shamwow.

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[XFIRE800]

sounds like a pretty sweet product, if i ever decide to start wearing a teather i will look into your product.

 

[polarisfornow]

I think this is an awesome safety product. in fact for about 4 years now i have been trying to come up with a tether system that would engage the brake as well as kill the engine. But price has been a very limiting factor. I'm sure the haters on here will find fault with this idea as well though.

 

[whammy]

Boy if I could count how many times my wrist has failed and hit the kill switch... Make sure no ones on your tail when you do that.... Great idea...

 

[Ten-Zing]

I won't run a lefty throttle or a tether cause they could fail. I don't use a righty throttle or a ignition switch either, they could fail. I don't run a chain, it could fail, no brakes...

I don't ride, I could fail.

I will never forget the day I read about a new product on SW and I acted like you guys were holding me at gunpoint to buy it.

 

[Killerk]

There are some great points here.
I guess I could have worded it differently.
The reason I would not run a lefty or a teth air is because to me it is not a neccesity... And it is one more thing that could possibly cause problems.

As with a lot of products, they don't always fail on their own... There is usually operator error involved.
Of course there can and will be failures with anything sled related.
I don't beleive that people will not buy this product solely based on my opinion.

This thread may not be going in the direction the OP or others may want, but this thread is staying active and that can only be a positive thing.

 

[Ten-Zing]

I've never had one a them $35 units fail.... LMFAO!!

 

[Teth-Air]

There are some great points here.
I guess I could have worded it differently.
The reason I would not run a lefty or a teth air is because to me it is not a neccesity... And it is one more thing that could possibly cause problems.

As with a lot of products, they don't always fail on their own... There is usually operator error involved.
Of course there can and will be failures with anything sled related.
I don't beleive that people will not buy this product solely based on my opinion.

This thread may not be going in the direction the OP or others may want, but this thread is staying active and that can only be a positive thing.

Killerk, you are 100% right when you say operator error can make or break a product's perceived success or failure. And yes, if installers of the Teth-Air don't make good electrical connections etc. or if someone puts the tag in their back-pack rather than on their wrist, we will see some failures.

The bottom line is: I simply love the sport and this product has made it that much better to a point that I must share it with others.

Thanks to all for comments, good or bad.

Chris

 

[Teth-Air]

We should have stock ready to go near October 1st.

Cheers,

Chris

 

[T-BO]

Seems like a great Idea to me, Harley Davidson has been using a remote as a key for years and they work very well.

It seems like the only situation that a corded tether would be better is if a person got tangled up with the sled in a wreck, cordless tether seems better in every other way to me. Give it a few years and the factories will be coming out with them for sure.

 

[Teth-Air]

Ttt

 

[MARCUSO]

People wear tethers ?

Nawww

Great idea for sure.

I wear a tether pretty much all the time. If my sled wasn't equipped with one, I would definitely consider this unit.