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Ten Things That Could Still Go Wrong with the Economy

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Ten Things That Could Still Go Wrong with the Economy
Posted Jun 11, 2009 11:26am EDT by John Carney and Joe Weisenthal in Investing, Recession, Banking
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From The Business Insider, June 11, 2009:

The recent buoyancy of the financial markets has created a sense of calm about the economy. The overall sense of panic has gone.

But there's still a wariness in the air, a feeling that the fragile "green shoots" of the recovery might be stomped out by some new crisis. People are waiting for the next shoe to drop.

Here we suggest 10 things that might stymie our recovery. Some are purely financial events. Others are geopolitical. And one involves these little piggies.

Did your favorite nightmare scenario make the cut?

1. Swine Flu Second Wave: Typically, influenza outbreaks come in waves, getting worse with each one. The very ease with which we seem to have survived the first wave of swine flu may make us vulnerable to a horrific second wave.

2. Commercial Real Estate Collapse: Various commercial real estate deals face trillions in refinancing obligations over the coming years. But the market is practically closed, ensuring massive bankruptcies and restructuring.

Why are lenders so freaked out? Because existing loans are going sour at a pace unlike anything we've seen in history. Because of that, even commercial real estate properties with strong cash flows are finding financing extremely difficult to come by.

3. The Option Adjustable Rate Mortgage Explosion: Anyone referring to the "subprime crisis" has got to get with the program. The subprime wave of defaults is basically over. Now the question is, what about all the other types of mortgages? You know, Option ARM, Alt-As and of course, good old fashioned prime mortgage.

The big wave of Option ARM resets has yet to come, and given the drop in home prices, refinancing won't be realistic. Let's hope the homeowners can afford their new monthly payments.

4. Global Food Crisis: As we saw last year, the global food supply teeters on the edge of adequacy. Any serious shock--floods in the Midwest, a war in Asia, social unrest in China, political upheaval in Thailand or Egypt--could result in shortages in countries that import large amounts of their food.

5. Israel Bombs Iran: The Obama administration's openness to the Iranian regime may have the perverse effect of emboldening its nuclear ambitions. Very likely, the fears of the nuclear Iran are over-stated. It would probably behave like most members of the global nuke club, cowed by its own destructive power into behaving responsibly.

But Iran isn't the only country to worry about in the region. Israel may not be willing to tolerate a nuclear armed Iran, and may choose to strike out to destroy Iran's nascent nuclear capabilities. This would obvious raise tensions throughout the Middle East. At the very least, oil prices will likely spike and remain elevated following any military action against Iran. This, in turn, will slow the global economy.

6. A Wave of Municipal Defaults: Historically, cities and states don't default on their loans very much. But as Warren Buffett pointed out, historical results don't mean jack because muni insurance wasn't around. Unless it gets a bailout, California may go bankrupt, causing the muni market to seize up, bringing public works and spending to a halt, kneecapping GDP.

At that point, with no ability to borrow, the other states will rush to default themselves, sparing their taxpayers any more pain.

7. Another Bank Run: It seems unlikely, given the government's implicit guarantee of the banking sector, but it's always possible that investors or lenders could lose confidence in one of the banks again, prompting a financing run a la Bear Stearns.

If this happened, we'd be back to square one with all the confidence and bailouts since Lehman's collapse -- only, the government would have fewer bullets left in the gun.

8. Runaway Inflation: The Federal Reserve seems confident that it can "land the recovery." Is it right?

There's good reason to be skeptical that the Fed will be able to reduce the monetary base before it floods out into the economy, driving up prices and destroying savings. For one thing, the Fed has never really been very good at doing this. By the time the Fed realizes that inflation is taking off, it may be too late.

9. North Korean Missile Launch: Wee dictator Kim Jong II has lulled the world to sleep, performing missile tests on a seemingly daily basis. What was once a cause for alarm now barely merits a bulletin on CNBC. In fact, the dollar has rallied on the nervousness.

But his neighbors in China, South Korea and Japan are freaked out and an actual war, or genuine provocation, could wreak havoc on far eastern trade. This might cause investors to flee towards the dollar, but it would be terrible for markets and economic activity.

10. Chinese Financial Crisis: Most economic discussion of China these days is about how dependent the US government has become on China buying Treasury bonds. But China has lately learned that its own economy is dangerously leveraged on foreign demand for Chinese manufactured goods. The global downturn has helped expose the fragility of the Chinese economic miracle, and worse might be coming.

A collapse of profits in China could very well spark a banking crisis, much like the collapse of real estate prices did to US financial institutions. Very little attention has been paid to the fragility of the Chinese financial system, which is dominated by large, slow, non-transparent, often corrupt state-run banks and centralized decision making. Slowing exports could be the tide that goes out and reveals which Chinese banks have been swimming naked. And the Chinese financial system, which has almost no effective securitization and therefore high concentrations of financial risk, is much less prepared to deal bank failures than the US was.

Of course, this will be bad news for the US. Any financial crisis in China will hurt the demand for our debt, both public and private, driving up interest rates and slowing down the US economy. This, in turn, would reduce demand for Chinese exports, exposing shaky banks to risk of collapse all over again.




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that just it no one looks ahead they just reflect the past or what is happening at the time. our town has been hit so hard. we have more commercial property vacant then we have rented almost in our town. just heard our local boat dealer just filed bankruptcy last week and he was doing a hell of business. i think the credit cards are the next big problem and will have alot more people filing bankruptcy. what i'am most surprised about though is that we haven't lost a sled manufacture yet, which just goes to show you how we have been getting ripped off
 
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Actually, it gets worse.

The worry about inflation and devaluation is based on numbers provided by Obama and his people. It is all smoke and mirrors.
Case in point.
According to Obama, universal health care was to cost approx. 640 billion. Current actual cost is over 1 trillion and expected to be closer to 1.4 trillion.

According to Obama the national debt will be cut in half by the end of his first term (that would put the deficit slightly higher than when Bush LEFT office). However, in order to do that we would have to have over 5% growth for at least 2.5 years. Not possible, not gonna happen.

So what happens when all the smoke and mirrors blow up?
What happens when the deficit not only doesn't go down, but continues to go up?
What happens when China refuses to buy any more U.S. debt and the U.S. treasury is forced to buy it's own debt??

All the above equals big time inflation and devaluation.

Take my word for it, or not, your choice, but I won't be in the stock market past august.
The article says people are waiting for the other shoe to drop, well, it should start falling around august/september.
 

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I would not be one bit surprised if 5 of those 10 things happened at the same time! Interest rates are already rising next is inflation .This is gonna get ugly!
 
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Misery Index, here it comes.

Looks like the Big "0" has us headed for a Jimmy Carter-like high "misery index".
I was in my mid 30's when he was president. I rmb'r it too well. Took me 3 years to sell a $49,000 house. Nobody buying w/interest rates of 17%.

Here's what Wikipedia says about the "misery index."

Misery index (economics)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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For the American death metal band, see Misery Index (band).
The misery index is an economic indicator, created by economist Arthur Okun, and found by adding the unemployment rate to the inflation rate. It is assumed that both a higher rate of unemployment and a worsening of inflation create economic and social costs for a country.[1] It is often incorrectly attributed to Chicago economist Robert Barro in the 1970s, due to the Barro Misery Index that additionally includes GDP and the bank rate.[2]

During the Presidential campaign of 1976, Democratic candidate Jimmy Carter made frequent references to the Misery Index, which by the summer of 1976 was at 13.57%. Carter stated that no man responsible for giving a country a misery index that high had a right to even ask to be President. Carter won the 1976 election. However, by 1980, when President Carter was running for re-election against Ronald Reagan, the Misery Index had reached an all-time high of 21.98%. Carter lost the election to Reagan.

U.S. misery index

Misery index - era by U.S president

Index = Unemployment rate + Inflation rate Rank President Time Period Index Average Low High
5 Harry Truman 1948–1952 7.88 Dec 1952 = 3.45 Jan 1948 = 13.63
1 Dwight D. Eisenhower 1953–1960 6.26 Jul 1953 = 2.97 Apr 1958 = 10.98
3 John F. Kennedy 1961–1962 7.14 Jul 1962 = 6.40 Jul 1961 = 8.38
2 Lyndon B. Johnson 1963–1968 6.77 Nov 1965 = 5.70 Jul 1968 = 8.19
7 Richard Nixon 1969–1973 10.57 Jan 1968 = 7.80 Dec 1973 = 13.61
10 Gerald Ford 1974–1976 14.93 Dec 1976 = 12.66 Jan 1975 = 19.90
11 Jimmy Carter 1977–1980 20.27 Apr 1978 = 12.60 Jun 1980 = 21.98
9 Ronald Reagan 1981–1988 11.19 Dec 1986 = 7.70 Sep 1981 = 19.33
8 George H. W. Bush 1989–1992 9.68 Sep 1989 = 9.64 Nov 1990 = 12.47
4 Bill Clinton 1993–2000 8.80 Apr 1998 = 5.74 Jan 1993 = 10.56
6 George W. Bush 2001 - 2008 8.10 Oct 2006 = 5.71 Aug 2008 = 11.47

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[edit] Misery and crime
Some economists posit that the components of the Misery Index drive the crime rate to a degree. They have found that the Misery Index and the Crime Rate correlate strongly and that the Misery Index seems to lead the Crime Rate by a year or so.[citation needed]


[edit] Data sources
The data for the misery index is obtained from unemployment data published by the U.S. Department of Labor and the Inflation Rate from Financial Trend Forecaster. The exact methods used for measuring unemployment and inflation have changed over time, although past data is usually normalized so that past and future metrics are comparable.


[edit] Related indexes
The Despondency Index, developed by the Bureau of Inverse Technology, correlates, in real time, the suicide rate measured with the Suicide Box at the Golden Gate Bridge, to the Dow Jones Industrial Average.


[edit] References
^ The US Misery Index
^ "REAGAN VS. CLINTON: WHO'S THE ECONOMIC CHAMP?", Robert J. Barro
^ "US Misery Index by President". http://www.miseryindex.us/indexbypresident.asp.
 
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