Suspension setup/theory

[BBP]

...yeah, i quit using the pp after 4-5 rides last year, and went back to stock...slp told me the mohawks were less aggressive, more like the slt ski, but with more float..

1 ride on the pp's for me and if I had any choice, it would have only been 10 minutes. Wet sticky snow in the trees, that was a rough day! I just put on grippers, hoping they're as good as the reviews. Sold the stock skis last week just so I would never be tempted to try them again.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

Ditch the powder pros, they sit quite a bit lower than stock, the best skis all around seem to be grippers.
Want more, install a shock spacer that shortens the shock 1/2". It will really be easy to steer. Requires revalve

 

[Bacon]

Get the air out of the ski shocks. I think they come with around 90 lbs from factory. I run between 50-60 Pds. My sleds get set up so you can stand on a running board in the shop and it will start to roll on its side. I really think many of the complaints for not easy to sidehill and other handling issues come from too much shock pressure.

 

[Deep Powder Guy]

are you saying that you didn't like the mohawks ? what were your concerns, riding trails, soft snow, crusted snow ? i just bought a pair, but haven't mounted them yet....i've tried pp's and didn't like them when the snow got hard on ridge lines or when crusted for some reason....tell me more

After spending the day trying to get the suspension setup correctly with the Mohawks I was never able to achieve the "lite front end feel" while maintaining "turn on a dime power steering". IMO the skis are still to aggressive for my liking after 40 miles of riding in soft snow.

DPG

 

[Adrenalinejunky]

Get the air out of the ski shocks. I think they come with around 90 lbs from factory. I run between 50-60 Pds. My sleds get set up so you can stand on a running board in the shop and it will start to roll on its side. I really think many of the complaints for not easy to sidehill and other handling issues come from too much shock pressure.

I agree! My12 had around 80-85psi. I just rode it at first but felt it didnt perform very well, neither on or off trail. I reduced the pressure more and more and now Im running 55-60psi and it works sooo much better BOTH on and off trail. Play with your shocks people!

 

[CO 2.0]

It's all personal preference. I am unlike most and run more pressure in front and rear shocks. I bottom out too much with too little pressure in the rear, and feel like the sled is too sloppy in the front with too little pressure. I do like my skis in the air as well, and have mine setup to still do that. Guessing the 3" pc I just installed will make my 15 a ball to ride in the pow. The 2.6, skis in the air, and more power made me smile a lot more while riding over the 12 pro I came off of.

 

[suitcase]

You guys are not liking the PP's , because of the float ? I have never had a set, I picked up a used set a few weeks ago. Along with some gripper ski's as well for the other sled.
What else do you guys think is negative on the PP's ?

 

[kiliki]

not a big fan of the pp as they like to push you flat. as for the sup set up i like them softer in the front for downhill turns make the front end give up easier to let you make the turn. the down side is you suffer on the bigger jumps. give and take.

 

[boondocker97]

You guys are not liking the PP's , because of the float ? I have never had a set, I picked up a used set a few weeks ago. Along with some gripper ski's as well for the other sled.
What else do you guys think is negative on the PP's ?

The powder pros are an aggressive ski designed for soft snow. If you get them on harder snow they can feel a bit more grabby and require more effort to turn. I still like them and have them on my 14 sled. They float well and turn when I want them to turn. They are one of the heavier skis out there though.

 

[xfiredude]

not a big fan of the pp as they like to push you flat. as for the sup set up i like them softer in the front for downhill turns make the front end give up easier to let you make the turn. the down side is you suffer on the bigger jumps. give and take.

Could a guy soften up the slow speed compression dampening and stiffen the high speed dampening? Then use the air for setting ride hight and sag? In the ski shocks.

 

[backcountryislife]

It's all personal preference. I am unlike most and run more pressure in front and rear shocks. I bottom out too much with too little pressure in the rear, and feel like the sled is too sloppy in the front with too little pressure. I do like my skis in the air as well, and have mine setup to still do that. Guessing the 3" pc I just installed will make my 15 a ball to ride in the pow. The 2.6, skis in the air, and more power made me smile a lot more while riding over the 12 pro I came off of.

IMO if you run less air, it's best to run thicker oil to make up for it. Rebound will be a TAD slow, but that has never bothered me on my machines.

 

[boondocker97]

Could a guy soften up the slow speed compression dampening and stiffen the high speed dampening? Then use the air for setting ride hight and sag? In the ski shocks.

This is where personal preference and riding style will come into play. If you ease into the maneuver, the shaft speed won't be fast enough when the shock compresses to really utilize the valving much. Initial spring rate will most likely govern. If you are aggressive and throw the sled over at the last minute and make the turn quick, then the valving will play a bigger part. Soften the low speed compression and maybe slow the rebound so it doesn't pop out of the snow again too quick.