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Survival Situations...

The Fourth Wolf

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So much of the discussion in these threads assumes that the person(s) stuck overnight are suffering from a mechanical breakdown i.e. they're with their sled, unhurt and in no immediate danger of hypothermia or frostbite. While that is true much of the time there are any number of scenarios that we could reasonably foresee where things could be far more difficult, and therefore dangerous. Planning for survival should be about preparing to deal with as worse a situation as we are capable of dealing with given realistic limitations like weight, space, probability, our own knowledge and skills etc.

What I would like to do is get you to honestly examine your readiness to deal with a few likely scenarios where things are getting ugly quickly. The goal here is to read the scenario and then based on what YOU carry and WHERE you carry it, ask yourself 2 questions: Am I prepared to deal with this? And if not, What would I do to make due?

Scenario #1: Mid January, 15 degrees, 2 pm, flat light, snowing lightly, mountains--just above tree line.
(I know we all preach never to ride alone but we all do it from time to time, either out of necessity or confidence in the infallibility of our magic machines or our own abilities.)

So, you spent a mid-week morning with friends in an area new to you. You bail early because you have to get home by a certain time for some reason. On your way back to the truck you miss a turn. After just 10 minutes you realize your mistake and instead of back tracking you take off across a big meadow in the direction you need to go. You're not really focused on what's in front of you--pissed at yourself for missing the trail--now you're going to get home late but at the same time you're enjoying the detour, totally surprised no one has tracked up this meadow's waist deep powder. You don't see the ravine until it's too late because of the light and the snow. In that instant you know you can't break in time but it's not that far across, maybe 20 feet, so you pin it hoping to get the ski's up so you don't lawn-dart into the opposite bank.

You get the ski's up some but not enough and hit short, smashing pretty hard into the far side just below the rim. You go over the bars and land in deep snow on top while your sled rolls 15 feet to the bottom coming to rest upside down in 2 feet of fast water.

Your right thigh is F'ing killing you but it bears your weight so you're pretty sure the femur isn't broken but every step hurts. Your helmet is packed with snow and you've even got snow inside your underwear and you can feel it melting against your skin.

You do not recognize the immediate area. You don't see any lights or hear motors. You're standing in 3-4 feet of snow that turns to sugar near the ground. The closest vegetation is small willow scrub. The timber is 200 yards downhill.

Questions...

Are you wearing a pack? What's in it? How much stuff is on your sled? Is any of that stuff critical and is it worth the risk of getting soaking wet? If you drop into the ravine will you be able to get back out with your leg?

What are you going to do now?

Scenario #2: Early March, -10 degrees, 4pm, clear/calm, mountains--big timber
This one's simpler. You're helping your more-money-than-sense middle aged co-worker put his very first machine, an 800 mountain sled, through it's paces. It's his 4th ride so he's an expert now. You're leading a downhill run and zig when you should zag and get sucked into a deeep (7-8 feet) treewell. Bob (these guys are always named Bob) was riding your bumper (all day) and drops his sled on top of yours, and you. Your left forearm hurts bad and moving your fingers brings tears. You're pretty sure it's broken, but you're right handed and at least you missed the tree. Bob, however, did not. He's conscious but having a hard time breathing. He's pretty sure he broke a few ribs and he has shooting pain along his spine when he tries to move his head. He say's it hurts to breathe or talk but he manages to blame you for wrecking his brand new sled.

Are you prepared to deal with this?

Scenario #3: Early February, -20 and dropping, 7pm, the flats (lake system, prairie/tundra etc), winds 20 to 30 mph.

You and your partner rode out to his cabin/ice shanty waaay out in the boonies for the weekend. You're about half way home when your partner breaks through the ice into waist deep water. He's not hurt but by the time he gets out he's wet to his arm pits. You're dry and your sled is fine. Trees and firewood are a short ride away.

How would you deal with this?


My 2 cents:
The central theme for all of these scenarios is getting/staying warm, since in winter that's the primary key to our survival. The ability to build substantial fires quickly, and to get dry are paramount when selecting gear to carry.
 
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Good food for thought. One never really knows if they're prepared or not until the chit hits it. One item can make you better prepared to handle all of the situations you mentioned......the SPOT. I bought one this year but due to recall I don't have it to use right now. I miss it already. :beer;
 
These are the types of things I do all the time- mentally consider worst case scenarios and then think my way out of them.

I can honestly say scenario #1 wouldn't happen to me, for two reasons. One, I'm such a strong proponent of the buddy system that I would never strike off on my own. But I can see where being separated could happen on accident...so, #2, I would be extremely unlikely to strike out across unknown terrain rather than backtracking. At least in most of the places I ride, it's very common to end up with ravines or other uncrossable terrain and usually is safer and faster to simply backtrack. However, if it did, I do have enough gear in my pack to spend the night and all my survival gear is on me, not on my sled. I only carry comfort items in the sled. However, no one would know where to look for me, so come morning I'd still be in a bad way. No way could I get my machine hauled up out of a ravine on my own, and based on the scenario this area is off the beaten track. I'd either be walking out or waiting for SAR. This is a situation to simply not allow to happen- it was completely avoidable on two levels.

Scenario #2- could happen to anyone. If it's getting close to dark, I would likely improvise a shelter using the treewell I was already in. I might go out and set up some emergency signals in case SAR was out looking for me, but otherwise I'd make that treewell as comfortable as I could and wait for daylight. Being as how theoretically my arm is broken and Bob has broken ribs along with possible spinal fracture, we're staying put until SAR gets there. I second the SPOT idea or a PLB in this situation, because it sounds like Bob is in pretty bad shape. That makes surviving the night that much harder- he's not going to be able to move around to warm up, and as he's injured he's going to get cold that much faster. I'd get the sled seats to get Bob up off the ground and wrap him up in emergency blankets and tuck heating pads into his armpits and groin to help keep him warm. Then I'd work on building a small fire, using some of the lower branches of the tree. It's unlikey that I'm going to be able to ride out for help because pulling my sled out of the treewell with a broken arm is highly unlikely, so Bob and I are waiting for SAR.

Scenario #3- actually the most survivable of the three, IMO. I would certainly have dry gear in my bag I could loan my friend, if he wasn't smart enough to pack dry gear of his own. I'd have him strip off his wet stuff, and put on the dry stuff, and we'd have to set up a temporary camp with fire in order to dry out his outer gear and boot liners as it's likely we don't have extras of those. Obviously we'd have to spend the night, but with the fire -20 is survivable. I carry a road flare in my pack at all times, so starting the fire in the cold temps is a no brainer- I'm not going to mess around trying to light frozen wood with a lighter, I'm going to gather wood and pop the flare to get it going. Depending on snow conditions I'd look at various snow shelters that we could build to sleep in, as a snow shelter is going to be right at freezing regardless, so 50 degrees warmer than it is outside. I also carry a candle in my emergency kit, so I can conceivably warm up the inside of a snow shelter to a balmy 40 degrees or so. Provided neither of us are injured, I see us riding out in the morning.

Great scenarios- got me thinking! Also, I love the detail you put in, especially into Scenario #1! I could really picture it.
 
2 years ago New years eve Left my group to go back to truck to make it home to my wife for the evening. Familiar with the area on a well marked trail. Chaincase bolt works loose and chain starts slipping then to loose to catch. In the snowy mountain range in Very Very cold already and the wind is howling at least 50mph no exagerating. Tool kit was missing no way to tighten bolt. Finger tips numb in seconds no sound of sledders. For me a ratchet strap was the rescue. Just finger tight the bolt and side loaded with a tightened ratchet strap Lesson learned Have your tools Survival is what I mean. I was there for 45 min and no one came by. 3 feet of powder and the nearest tree was 4 feet tall and would have taken 1 hr to get to. When I got to the trk all; other cars were gone except for my groups. Later learned they decided to get a room at the other side due to some mechanical issues. Would have been a long wait.
 
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Spindrifter Great post never really thought about not getting to the sled at all. I will be rearranging once again Thanks for the insight
 
Survival

Good topic, some of colder days we go out it could be - 25 c plus wind chill, I know personally that if I'm working hard and moving I can generate enough heat to stay warm for a long time, provided I stay moving. On the flip side when I'm not moving I get cold very easy especially after I've been sweating with, my fingers get cold very fast.

What I'm trying to say is tha in an emergency situation, in the dark when you're cold and sweating your ability to negotiate your self into a survival mode could be a much more difficult task than you can imagine, not to mention being hurt on top of things.

Anything you can be prepared for or carry with you just makes your situation that much better or could be the matter of keeping you alive.

This doesn't mean I worry and fret every time we go out, I just try to carry some extra gear, wear smart clothes and keep conscious of what can happen.
 
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