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Stupid Throttle Block Design

Teth-Air said:
The standard flipper gives more grip strength obviously. If you consider hanging on under accelleration, up hill all the forces are throwing you backwards and 4 fingers to hold on are way stronger than a partially open hand with only 3 fingers. Comiing downhill I agree a closed thumb is stronger but honestly this is not near the forces as climbing.
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Y'all have never been on a 200 hp standup jetski have you. Makes the nastiest mtn sled pale in comparison, and use triggers.

Also, have you even tried a trigger throttle or is this one of those self-feeling-never-tried-it posts? Cuz literally all the sponsored dudes are running triggers now.

How long did you personally try a trigger??
 
chickenstixx said:
Y'all have never been on a 200 hp standup jetski have you. Makes the nastiest mtn sled pale in comparison, and use triggers.

Also, have you even tried a trigger throttle or is this one of those self-feeling-never-tried-it posts? Cuz literally all the sponsored dudes are running triggers now.

How long did you personally try a trigger??
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“All the sponsored dudes are running triggers now”

In jet ski racing?

I ran a munster finger throttle on my 2016 Axys for a bit.

Not for me.

My last sled was 215 hp so I’m not sure how talking about jet skis that are cruising around on water (Which tends to be quite a bit less change in elevation vs snow) has anything to do with mountain riding?

Much less tree riding?
 
I realize there are aftermarket options including Munster. This thread was about the garbage design from polaris. We shouldn't have to put an aftermarket throttle solution on an 18k+ sled for safe functionality in its intended use.
 
Teth-Air said:
The standard flipper gives more grip strength obviously. If you consider hanging on under accelleration, up hill all the forces are throwing you backwards and 4 fingers to hold on are way stronger than a partially open hand with only 3 fingers. Comiing downhill I agree a closed thumb is stronger but honestly this is not near the forces as climbing.
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Try swinging a hammer with 4 fingers and no thumb on the grip vs 3 fingers and a thumb and let me know if you still think the flapper throttle has more grip strength..

I get that the finger throttle is an acquired taste / not for everyone.. but without a doubt it produces a stronger grip, the thumb provides a lot of grip strength in uphill and downhill scenarios.
 
exactly like cortez said, way better grip with a finger throttle. I have been spinning the flipper around on my sleds since the early 90's. way easier when we were running mod triples with 44mm carbs, then munster came out with there finger throttle and i havent looked back. they also make a bolt on guard that works pretty good for playin in the trees.
 
LOL

yeah all us guys who ride moto changed our clutch lever to a thumb flipper for better grip strength on climbs


thumb throttles are on quads for a reason......sit down stuff. They're just a holdover from trail sleds.

And yes the polaris throttle block ices up too easily.
 
This is why forums are so great! Someone brings up Polaris' unsafe throttle and now we got some guy arguing about jet skis. Pure entertainment ??? Now all we need is Terry's input. Does Terry's wife prefer the finger or the thumb??? ? On her sled of course...

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I actually have a bunch of stand up jet skis so yes i prefer a finger throttle. Just not on a snowmobile. Ive had to let go of bars so i didn't get my hand smashed on a tree and grab them again. Wouldn't work out well with finger throttle. Never had trouble holding on either way. Its just like the argument on steering. Lay down vs vertical. Really doesn't make two sh!ts. Ride what you like. I'll ask my wife what she likes and let you know Chadly.
 
So, now that Polaris says the Matryx throttle cable is unsafe and we should stop riding, what about the stock throttle block?

This is the largest and most obvious/universal safety issue on our sleds.
 
JH@CM said:
So, now that Polaris says the Matryx throttle cable is unsafe and we should stop riding, what about the stock throttle block?

This is the largest and most obvious/universal safety issue on our sleds.
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From the email I got yesterday:

Polaris is recalling these units because it has determined that:
  • The throttle release switch (TRS) can fail to disengage when the throttle lever is released, undetected by the operator. If a stuck throttle condition occurs and the TRS fails to disengage, it can lead to loss of vehicle control, posing a crash hazard and risk of serious injury. To resolve this concern, Polaris has developed a repair procedure to inspect and adjust the throttle lever.
The double threat of TRS failure and stock throttle block icing during deep snow riding is scary. I'm assuming they will just take a spacer or two of stack out of each of the throttle flipper pin's stack height to reduce friction on the throttle return. This in theory will improve the ability for TRS to work?

With at least three manufacturers making aftermarket throttle block replacements, and others with TRS delete kits, this is clearly a problem that needs a permanent solution.
 
mtncat1 said:
if this is a known issue how come i haven't experienced it in the last 9 years for riding. is there something different in the throttle block that i am missing ?
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It requires certain conditions to become an issue.
If u ride in those conditions constantly, it will be a serious matter. If u never see those conditions then it will never be an issue.

I've seen it happen on Polaris for a decade, while I rode cat without issue.

Been riding a Khaos since 2020, never had an issue because when it's deep I ride the Alpha. My buddies generally only have issues on the days I ride the Alpha. Lol

I also don't run the hardwarmers off trail much.


I like the look of the MVM and Skins throttle blocks.
 
mtncat1 said:
if this is a known issue how come i haven't experienced it in the last 9 years for riding. is there something different in the throttle block that i am missing ?
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summ8rmk said:
It requires certain conditions to become an issue.
If u ride in those conditions constantly, it will be a serious matter. If u never see those conditions then it will never be an issue.

I've seen it happen on Polaris for a decade, while I rode cat without issue.

Been riding a Khaos since 2020, never had an issue because when it's deep I ride the Alpha. My buddies generally only have issues on the days I ride the Alpha. Lol

I also don't run the hardwarmers off trail much.


I like the look of the MVM and Skins throttle blocks.
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The 2022 throttle lever heater redesign makes it worse.
 
I read on FB about the recall. Supposedly its about the clips or spacers under the throttle... IDK im trying to find that post but it basically says you remove the c-clip and either remove a spacer or put the clip in a different slot and that's the recall fix. Ill keep looking
 
Yes, I'm presuming that the fix for throttle flipper potentially binding is to remove one of the very thin spacers.

On the bottom there is a simple circlip that allows you to pull the pin up (don't lose the circlip if you decide to pop it off!).
 
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