So, what is in your survival kit?

[volcano buster]

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[BAD MONKEY]

LIKE A GUN

I couldn't Agee more. Even though there are several threads on this it's a great topic. I'm always looking for ways to streamline my survival and tools. I can't tell you how many times a riding buddy that hauls nothing with him has bought beers for me go' Savin their arse. The last 2 seasons I used some flat stock steel and bars along with pipe clamps to limp guys with bent a arms home. Wire, duct tape, zip ties, allens, leatherman, solder and torch lighter, and the craftsman dog bone. As for the survival packs I love the adventure packs and I have at least 3 forms of fire starters. Magnesium, waterproof matches, lint from a dryer I keep in a film case, tampon for gas, lighter, and o course a flare. I make sure to also carry a tree saw and three heat saving. Bivvy sacs. In my opinion you can never be over packed or over prepared.

LIKE A GUN ITS BETTER TO HAVE AND NOT NEED THAN TO NEED AND NOT HAVE!!!!!!!!!!

 

[shawn2820]

I haven't personally used glue on a wound, but I know guys who have and said it works really well. Believe me you cannot stitch up a wound without freezing. Most people don't realize how hard it is to poke a needle through flesh. Then try doing it for let's say 10 stitches...that's 20 pokes!!! That's at least a 26er worth of pain killer required.

Super glue works probably as well as stitches anyway. used it several times but it has to be super glue, not any glue works something that dries as fast as super glue works the best. And for what i have used it super glue doesnt burn any and last just long enought that wound will have started to heal when it wears out. That is just my experience with it.

 

[sdsnocop]

The following list is what I carry while on snowmobile patrol. Some items are rescue/survival, while others are law enforcement related. Some have dual purposes.

First aid kit (mostly bleeding control and personal protection items)
Sno-Bunje
Sno-Bunje ratchet rope (30 feet)
50 feet rope
3 foot rope (tying onto ski loop to tow sled)
Shovel
Xtra belt (no extra plugs due to e-tech motor)
Large trash bags (to keep stuff dry)
Space blankets
2 1-lbs bags of trail mix (nuts, raisins, m&m's vacuum packed)
Water
Empty soup can (to melt snow)
Waterproof matches and candles
Leatherman
Folding saw
Electrical wire and fine bailing wire
Electrical and duct tape
Flashlight with extra batteries
Surefire flashlight on belt
LED ballcap clip on light
GPS, Cell Phone, Digital VHF portable radio with extra battery
Extra gloves (heavy and thin)
stocking cap
Fleece jacket
Neopreme mask to cover face, cheeks and nose
50 feet surveyer string and string level (accident investigation plus survival)
100 foot measuring tape (accident investigation)
Digital camera
Spare fuel (for myself and to give to others in need)
4 feet of fuel line (to siphon fuel and other liquids, also to obain fuel for fire)
Ticket book with tickets (obvious reasons plus firestarter in emergency)
Extra pens (in case pen freezes while writing ticket)
Handcuffs (no explanation needed)
Glock model 22 with extra loaded mag (Duty weapon)
Sled equiped with 50 watt VHF digital motorcycle radio wired into my helmet
Trail maps (give to other lost snowmobilers)

 

[riverhound]

Super Glue

Super Glue was actually developed for the medical feild. Used for minor cuts in lew of stiches an it just kind of became a household thing for other applications. I used to be on SAR an we actually glued a thumb pad back on after a kid cut it off closing his knife. Just remember to keep open bottles in a zippy if not u will have one big mess of crap stuck together lol.

 

[tudizzle]

Super Glue was actually developed for the medical feild. Used for minor cuts in lew of stiches an it just kind of became a household thing for other applications.

not entirely true




Super glue, Krazy glue, Eastman 910 and similar glues are all a special type of glue called cyanoacrylates. Cyanoacrylates were invented in 1942 by Dr. Harry Coover of Kodak Laboratories during experiments to make a special extra-clear plastic suitable for gun sights. He found they weren't suitable for that purpose, so he set the formula aside. Six years later he pulled it out of the drawer thinking it might be useful as a new plastic for airplane canopies. Wrong again--but he did find that cyanoacrylates would glue together many materials with incredible strength and quick action, including two very expensive prisms when he tried to test the ocular qualities of the substance. Seeing possibilities for a new adhesive, Kodak developed "Eastman #910" (later "Eastman 910") a few years later as the first true "super glue." In a now-famous demonstration conducted in 1959, Dr. Coover displayed the strength of this new product on the early television show "I've Got a Secret," where he used a single drop placed between two steel cylinders to lift the host of the show, Garry Moore, completely off of the ground.

The use of cyanoacrylate glues in medicine was considered fairly early on. Eastman Kodak and Ethicon began studying whether the glues could be used to hold human tissue together for surgery. In 1964 Eastman submitted an application to use cyanoacrylate glues to seal wounds to the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Soon afterward Dr. Coover's glue did find use in Vietnam--reportedly in 1966 cyanoacrylates were tested on-site by a specially trained surgical team, with impressive results.


Although cyanoacrylate glues were useful on the battlefield, the FDA was reluctant to approve them for civilian use. In part, this was due to a tendency of the early compounds (made from "methyl-2-cyanoacrylate") to irritate the skin as the glue reacted with water and cured in the skin, releasing cyanoacetate and formaldehyde. A compound called "butyl-2-cyanoacrylate" was developed to reduce toxicity, but suffered from brittleness and cracking a few days after application. Finally an improved cyanoacrylate glue was developed for medical applications called "2-octyl-cyanoacrylate." This compound causes less skin irritation and has improved flexibility and strength--at least three times the strength of the butyl-based compound. As a result, in 1998 the FDA approved 2-octyl cyanoacrylate for use in closing wounds and surgical incisions, and in 2001 approved it for use as a "barrier against common bacterial microbes including certain staphylococci, pseudomonads, and Escherichia coli". This latest incarnation was marketed under the name Traumaseal as well as the more popular Dermabond.




Is it safe to use ordinary household cyanoacrylate glue as a medical glue? most cyanoacrylate glues not designed specifically for medical use are formulated from methyl-2-cyanoacrylate, since it produces the strongest bond. Not only can such glues irritate the skin, during polymerization they can generate significant heat, to the point of causing skin burns. I gather this is a problem only if a large area of skin is affected. But to err on the side of safety

 

[EagleRiverDee]

Super glue can be an irritant, but I think if you're in the field and your options are: stitches, skin stapler, butterfly bandages or superglue that superglue might well be the quickest and least painful option for sealing a large cut and getting you home. Regardless of what gets used, a visit to the doctor is in order upon return, I'd say.

 

[Jammmin]

Stuck in a raven, broken sled and its too steep to ride doubles to get out.

What about making sure your trailer and truck are prepared to grab extra stuff like.
Gas, more rope, food, firewood etc.

This is especially good especially if you need a med evac and are going to be sitting there for a bit, injured or with a broken down sled.

just my 2 cents