IF , the moisture pattern holds and the temps drop drastically. We had 26" of snow the other day at around 13000' but no way to even ride there. It's sad but true, but we will have an Indian Summer and it looks like it might be in late October. If the temps had been at 20° we would be riding already. The last month at hunting camp we have seen closer to 8" of rain since September. Keep your fingers crossed.