btw - has anyone ever used Krieger barrels??? they are local to me and I'd use them if they are worth trying...
Rifles, caliber's, scopes, and such
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I have seen the Leupolds and they are nice, but if you want killer optics without the swarovski price look at the Burris lineup.
Fullfield II - bottom end (great clarity just don't gather as much light as the other two)
Signature - Middle road
Black diamond - high end (makes dusk look like high noon)
The fullfield II is not a "bottom end scope" it's just their cheaper scope. The ballistics plex is nice for the long bombs too.
Fullfield II - bottom end (great clarity just don't gather as much light as the other two)
Signature - Middle road
Black diamond - high end (makes dusk look like high noon)
The fullfield II is not a "bottom end scope" it's just their cheaper scope. The ballistics plex is nice for the long bombs too.
From my experience, i like the leopolds because they stand behind their product. That and I have two Gold Ring scopes that are about 20 years old and tough as nails. I did have a problem with a newer scope and sent it in. They mailed me a brand new one. Standing behind their product means alot.
Calibers, I admit, i am not much into wildcatting a gun. I shot a deer with my .257 Weatherby Mag this year. 120 Grain Nosler Partition. Piled him up first shot at about 350 yards. Went all the way through him also. Fun gun to shoot.
For elk or bigger I have a 300 win mag and a 300 Weatherby Mag. 300 Win mag is a Sako, pulls up good. Weatherby is a old made in Germany Mark 5 Delux (grandpa's gun). Love this gun. Shoot 180's to 200 grains bullets out of both 300's. Do a great job.
Just picked up a 340 Weatherby Mag, because the price was right. Almost new Mark 5 for $600 (had to buy it). For a punkin launcher, i am impressed. Does some serious damage. Havnt shot anything with it YET!
All in all, it comes down to what you are comfortable shooting, how it pulls up, and fits. No use shooting a cannon if it makes you flinch. And when you find that sweet setup, the setup that you just pull up and shoot, because you know exactly where it hits. That is when it is fun. Practice makes perfect.
Calibers, I admit, i am not much into wildcatting a gun. I shot a deer with my .257 Weatherby Mag this year. 120 Grain Nosler Partition. Piled him up first shot at about 350 yards. Went all the way through him also. Fun gun to shoot.
For elk or bigger I have a 300 win mag and a 300 Weatherby Mag. 300 Win mag is a Sako, pulls up good. Weatherby is a old made in Germany Mark 5 Delux (grandpa's gun). Love this gun. Shoot 180's to 200 grains bullets out of both 300's. Do a great job.
Just picked up a 340 Weatherby Mag, because the price was right. Almost new Mark 5 for $600 (had to buy it). For a punkin launcher, i am impressed. Does some serious damage. Havnt shot anything with it YET!
All in all, it comes down to what you are comfortable shooting, how it pulls up, and fits. No use shooting a cannon if it makes you flinch. And when you find that sweet setup, the setup that you just pull up and shoot, because you know exactly where it hits. That is when it is fun. Practice makes perfect.
Question for you gunsmiths.
I have a .358 Norma Mag that I want to convert to a .358STA. Not sure what
all is invloved? I think the shoulder length is longer on the STW (8mm, .375H&H) so a chamber ream may be in order. Can one get reloading dies for such caliber. I'm pretty sure you can't get any factory loads. lol
EDIT: It's a 700 BDL with a douglas barrel right now.
I have a .358 Norma Mag that I want to convert to a .358STA. Not sure what
all is invloved? I think the shoulder length is longer on the STW (8mm, .375H&H) so a chamber ream may be in order. Can one get reloading dies for such caliber. I'm pretty sure you can't get any factory loads. lol
EDIT: It's a 700 BDL with a douglas barrel right now.
this year on my .300 win mag it came with a simons 3x9x40 was an okay scope. after talking with some guys at a sporting goods store in brandon they convised me to try a Weaver grand slam scope it's a 4.5x15x40. couldent be happyer with it this is the scope i would recomend. oh and your purches suports the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation some makes a hunter fell good while buyinf themself a new toy.
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Sako7STW
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Dug this one up. Krieger is a great barrel. no worries there.
I have been kicking around a lighter rifle myself in something custom. I have really been looking hard at doing a .257WSM. Smaller, lighter, and faster throwing bolt action than my STW is. Nearly identical ballistics with the STW and the .257 WBY Mag. with the advantage of shoulder seating instead of belt seating.
As far as scopes go, My preference is Ziess. If money is a concern then seriously look the the Bushnell 4200 series scopes. Yes, Bushnell, the 3200 and 4200 scopes are actually the Bausch & Lomb designed scopes and the older 4000 series scope is what i have on my STW and it outperforms my dads LPS he has on his WBY anyday.
I have been kicking around a lighter rifle myself in something custom. I have really been looking hard at doing a .257WSM. Smaller, lighter, and faster throwing bolt action than my STW is. Nearly identical ballistics with the STW and the .257 WBY Mag. with the advantage of shoulder seating instead of belt seating.
As far as scopes go, My preference is Ziess. If money is a concern then seriously look the the Bushnell 4200 series scopes. Yes, Bushnell, the 3200 and 4200 scopes are actually the Bausch & Lomb designed scopes and the older 4000 series scope is what i have on my STW and it outperforms my dads LPS he has on his WBY anyday.
i've currently got an older Bausch Elite 3000 on my rem 700 7mag, great scope during daylight hours, when it starts getting dusky though it fades fast... need something with better light transmission... probably gonna have to pop for something in the $400+ range to get what i want, maybe more...
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Sako7STW
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If it's light transmission you want, nothing will beat the European scopes, nothing. Spendy no doubt, but you will quickly see that they are worth every red cent you spent for it.
The new Leupold with that wierd halfmoon cut out might be worth looking at, the lower profile mounting would sure make putting it in a scabberd much easier. Oh and the 4200 and 3200 are lightyears apart in clarity and light transmission, pun is intended.
The new Leupold with that wierd halfmoon cut out might be worth looking at, the lower profile mounting would sure make putting it in a scabberd much easier. Oh and the 4200 and 3200 are lightyears apart in clarity and light transmission, pun is intended.
I sure like my 300 Win mag, it depends on what you are going to use it for though. If I were buying a new caliber I'd probably go with a 280 Rem, great all around caliber. Unless you're headed to Alaska. Have you looked at a Remington 700 XCR, I think XCR stands for extreme conditions rifle, it comes with a matte stainless action and barrel which is supposed to be real corrosion resistant, and has a synthetic stock that looks real durable. Then you'd have a proven action you're comfortable with put in a tough package.
Mine:
Rem700 Sendaro Stainless 7MM STW (Cryo Treated with 3.2lb trigger pull and Muzzel Break, and custom fit)
Leupold VX3 6.5X20 50mm with Proshop Varmit Reticle and target MOA turrents
Sniper Tools Angle Cosign Indicator
Kestrel 4500 NV Wind/Weather Station
NightForce XBall Ballistics Sofware
I had bought an built this gun with the intent of White Tail Deer hunting with the potential of possibly going further west for elk or north for black bear. But also I wanted long range for Coyotes, and Prairie dogs, Mule Deer on South Dakota Plains. However the only game I flush are pheasants, I don't hunt with a group to flush deer. I'm an Archery hunter and use basically the same tactics for rifle by sitting in treestands overlooking long distances above open fields and draws. I do alot of sit and wait.
If I were to Build another one I would build one in a 7MM Ultra (I havn't seen a new rifle chaimbered in STW for years now). The 7 Ultra ballistics are very close to the STW's. Reguardless, if you don't reload currenlty go buy yourself a Rockchucker supreme kit or find a used Dillon 550b in good shap if your willing to spend the money on the rest of the reloading basics stuff. #1 reason: your making a better precision round than you can buy off the store shelf. #2 besides the inital investment, you'll always have ammo so long as you buy up some brass. And in the long run it will save you money. Factory ammo costs me $2 a shot. Alll the Precision reloads I've made so far cost me about $1 to make now. I currently run 4 loads, 120g Nosler Partition and Ballistic tips, and 140g Nosler Partition and Ballistics tips.
Rem700 Sendaro Stainless 7MM STW (Cryo Treated with 3.2lb trigger pull and Muzzel Break, and custom fit)
Leupold VX3 6.5X20 50mm with Proshop Varmit Reticle and target MOA turrents
Sniper Tools Angle Cosign Indicator
Kestrel 4500 NV Wind/Weather Station
NightForce XBall Ballistics Sofware
I had bought an built this gun with the intent of White Tail Deer hunting with the potential of possibly going further west for elk or north for black bear. But also I wanted long range for Coyotes, and Prairie dogs, Mule Deer on South Dakota Plains. However the only game I flush are pheasants, I don't hunt with a group to flush deer. I'm an Archery hunter and use basically the same tactics for rifle by sitting in treestands overlooking long distances above open fields and draws. I do alot of sit and wait.
If I were to Build another one I would build one in a 7MM Ultra (I havn't seen a new rifle chaimbered in STW for years now). The 7 Ultra ballistics are very close to the STW's. Reguardless, if you don't reload currenlty go buy yourself a Rockchucker supreme kit or find a used Dillon 550b in good shap if your willing to spend the money on the rest of the reloading basics stuff. #1 reason: your making a better precision round than you can buy off the store shelf. #2 besides the inital investment, you'll always have ammo so long as you buy up some brass. And in the long run it will save you money. Factory ammo costs me $2 a shot. Alll the Precision reloads I've made so far cost me about $1 to make now. I currently run 4 loads, 120g Nosler Partition and Ballistic tips, and 140g Nosler Partition and Ballistics tips.
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