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respect and entitlement..

To your question: I suspect the lack of respect is because of the lack of social interaction thanks to the Internet. With the internet becoming publicly popular in the 90's, kids learning new social skills no longer worried about getting punched in the mouth for behaving in a disrespectful manner. That's my theory. When I was a kid, we all went outside to play....all day, every day. If you acted like a jacka$$, you had no freinds. Simple. We ate dirt, threw rocks at each other, skinned our knees, got goose-eggs, and practiced swear-words. In the 90's kids got video games and computers. So they sat inside all day shooting virtual gangstas and "talking" on the internet...no learning, no consequences. All their social skills came from liberal-minded teachers who let them know about their "rights".

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I have to agree. Just look at some of the threads on here lately. A guy calling another guy a liar is easy on the internet, like killing a zombie in a vidoe game....but would he call that same guy (who's 6'8" and 300+) a liar to his face?? He would likely show the guy some respect and offer to buy him a beer if he knows what's good for him! :beer;:)
 
Growing up in a very strange society (northern Minnesota) where we all have guns, lots of them, most of us attend church (my town of 600 has 7 different churches and denominations) we are prolife, and so on. And yet, we always vote liberal. Its a strange society, even Rush Limbaugh commented on the "Iron Range" (the name for the ridge of taconite along which I live) on his show because we're a confusing bunch. I was able to experience both political views extremely closely. Which is why I often play pot/kettle on here. I see both points of view because of experience with them.

Albeit, not very much experience, I'm quite young keep in mind. I think respect is an alotment to everyone (as ruffy said) which can be increased, or decreased. I don't think someone should or shouldn't have a certain opinion, I just think sometimes they should justify said opinion. I know they don't have to, but if someone thinks drastically differently than me about a situation or idea, I would always like to know why, so that possibly I may look at it from a different direction and become objective about the subject.

There's my 0.02 guys.
 
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i definitely see a decline in just general courtesy or respect for our fellow man... that is self-evident. i think wade touched on something that is key,ie, 'informed' respect. i think we as a nation are more skeptical than we used to be(for sundry reasons). to me inherent in 'informed' respect is trust. the people who i respect the most are most generally the people i trust the most. seems to be a definitive connection there. just some thoughts!:D
 
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In my "good ole days" we showed our parents respect or got punished. We showed our teachers respect or risked expulsion- and parental punishment. I showed my boss respect or lost my job. Spanking is now beating. Corporal punishment no longer in schools. Expulsion is rare because children "have a right to an education" even if they don't want to learn. My wife has been on the receiving end of a lawsuit that ended in her getting plan of assistance. Evidently her master's degree isn't as credible as the views of a 14 year old when it comes to classroom behavior. Finding younger (entry level) workers that will show up every day, can pass a UA, and have a valid driver's license is very difficult.
 
I think we are all talking the same thing here, whether you think there are different kinds, or whether there are different levels....

One thing I don't understand though, is, why is it possible to loose ALL respect for another person. I mean, there comes a point where how you treat another person has more to do with the respect you have for yourself. If someone you saw that you had no respect for was in danger and needed help, would you not?

MTm7, you hit on an interesting point, about the general respect / courtesy decreasing. I wonder if this is self perpetuating. IE, the more we don't trust people, the more we believe that people shouldn't be trusted...
 
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Ruffy, I read your OP, and many of the replies,- but not all.

It is my opinion, (and thus I live my life this way) that every person I meet, (or don't meet for that matter) is given a certain amount of respect. That is the respect I give to a human being, for being a creation of God. (again, my beliefs, not trying to push them on others)

However, it is up to them to behave in a manner in which my level of respect increases. Sometimes, as I learn more about them, things they have done in the past contribute to this. They can also loose respect. I openly give a pretty high amount at first. I'm a grown adult (although sometimes I have a hard time seeing myself in that light), who contributes to this society in the form of taxes, and personal service. Every day I go to work, I put my health, safety and life on the line for others. And yet, when I meet new folks, most of the time, it's Mister/ Missus, or Sir/Ma'am, until told otherwise.

This was instilled in me from my youth. With regards to giving others respect, I think the bulk of the responsibility lies within the degradation of family values. And, I'm not referring to a certain theological belief either. Others have written about how if they behaved poorly as a child, they got a 'whuppun. They learned real quick to behave properly.

But, times have changed. No doubt, some of you have seen an e-mail going around containing an excerpt from a certain women's magazine dated in the 50's advising housewives how to treat their husband when he arrives home from work. Today, it's hard to make ends meet without double incomes. This means children are left without parental input for much of the day, and by the time mom and dad get home from their career, they are tired and don't want to take the time to teach little David or Stephanie (by example as well) how to be a good human being. Even those that are fortunate enough to have one stay-home parent, often are concerned with teaching their child how to be a good child, not how to prepare them to be a good adult. There are significant differences between the two. So, we end up with a couple generations of people that might know how to be a good kid, but no idea how to act like an adult, much less, how to be a good parent, when they have kids themselves.

And this includes respect for one's self. Also known as personal responsibility. None of us are perfect. I make many mistakes, likely more than my share. ;) But, I try hard to take ownership of them, apologize when appropriate, and learn from them. I don't blame my mommy and daddy for my poor choices as an adult. And I certainly don't want the government coming into my life and telling me how I have to behave. Laws tell me what behavior is acceptable, and what consequences will be if I don't behave properly. They don't tell me how to behave. There is a significant difference.

When I see well-behaved adults, that are respected by others, and give others respect, undoubtedly, it can be traced back to a person of influence (usually parents) in their youth, that demonstrated proper behavior, and in turn then held them to a high standard of behavior.

Have high expectations for your kids. Show them how to live up to it, and then let them do so. There are folks that demand respect. They pound their fist, flaunt their rank, and demand you show them respect. Then, there are folks that behave in a manner that cause you to want to emulate them, and you want to show them how much you admire them. They command it by their examples and action. My dad was the former, my mom the latter. My dad's relationship history (friends, business colleagues, and personal) is spotty at best. My mom's history is exemplary. I'm not trying to put down my dad (I love him dearly) or brag about my mom (although I love to do that), but it's been a very clear example of where each path of behavior leads.

PE
 
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Yep, your right. There's two types of respect. The "respect you show strangers" (uninformed respect). And, the "respect for people you know" (informed respect). No matter who you meet, you start with the first, and progress to the second.

Maybe, what you progress too is no-respect. But, you never have uninformed respect; for someone you know. You have the informed type of respect.

Unless were talking about Politicians. With Politicians I just skip step one and go straight to step two.
 
We're kind of talking about two different types of respect. On a social level...sure, I'll treat everyone with respect. On a professional level, sorry...professional students and people who can't even change a tire don't get any from me. Obama is in that club.

Rednecks in Canada?

I thought you were all liberal free health care loving weed smokin' happy folks up there:eek:

You should drop on down into the states....You would fit right in!
 
I remember growing up I was taught to respect the President, no matter
who he was, it was respect for the office more than the individual, even when
Nixon was in....slowly that has all eroded into what we have today, two sides that bitterly ridicule everything that a president does....I have to say that it
really started getting out of hand during the GW Bush presidency, the press
was like hyena's....all the time on this guy......Now I see it nearing the same thing for Obama, the difference is now that "their" guy is in, they want it to stop! It is total hypocracy, that is what sets me off more than anything....

I will give your President the same respect you gave mine....
 
tech a,

Thanks for bringing up that point, and I wish to clarify my position.

Personally, as a proud and grateful American, I respect the office of the President of The United States.

Based on what actions have been documented, I actually think Ol' Barry does not respect the office he currently occupies. If he did, he would not be blatantly disregarding the very document he swore to uphold, the Constitution of The United States.
 
really started getting out of hand during the GW Bush presidency, the press
was like hyena's....all the time on this guy......Now I see it nearing the same thing for Obama, the difference is now that "their" guy is in, they want it to stop! It is total hypocracy, that is what sets me off more than anything....
then you say this?
I will give your President the same respect you gave mine....
So it bothered you how they treated bush and now it doesn't bother you how they treat Obama? Aren't you now being hypocritical?

well, good thing conservatives like to take the high road..

Personally, I don't like any bashing of ANY president. Bush did some good things, and some not so good. Same thing with Obama... It seems like presidents have just become a distraction from the ineptness of congress.... The president is a scape goat, he is a figure that which we can direct blame, because it has to go somewhere, and we don't have the sense to put it where it actually belongs..
 
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I think we are all talking the same thing here, whether you think there are different kinds, or whether there are different levels....

One thing I don't understand though, is, why is it possible to loose ALL respect for another person. I mean, there comes a point where how you treat another person has more to do with the respect you have for yourself. If someone you saw that you had no respect for was in danger and needed help, would you not?

MTm7, you hit on an interesting point, about the general respect / courtesy decreasing. I wonder if this is self perpetuating. IE, the more we don't trust people, the more we believe that people shouldn't be trusted...

Ruffy, If somebody spits right in your eye, do you still have respect for them? I would pound their a** myself.
 
Ruffy, If somebody spits right in your eye, do you still have respect for them? I would pound their a** myself.
As to your question, yes I still have respect for them, maybe not as much as before. It would take a lot more then that for most respect to be gone.
If someone spit in your eye, then later was in a situation where you could help save their life, would you not?
 
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Just emphasizing my point, once again a liberal has read more into
a statement than is there...
No, it is called reading. Might want to choose your words more carefully next time.

You deplore the actions of liberals and then use the actions of liberals to justify acting the same as liberals... Yah, I read that loud and clear, you just don't want to hear it.
 
Please elaborate what what good things Obama has done as president?Swampy:eek:

then you say this?

So it bothered you how they treated bush and now it doesn't bother you how they treat Obama? Aren't you now being hypocritical?

well, good thing conservatives like to take the high road..

Personally, I don't like any bashing of ANY president. Bush did some good things, and some not so good. Same thing with Obama... It seems like presidents have just become a distraction from the ineptness of congress.... The president is a scape goat, he is a figure that which we can direct blame, because it has to go somewhere, and we don't have the sense to put it where it actually belongs..
 
No, it is called reading. Might want to choose your words more carefully next time.

You deplore the actions of liberals and then use the actions of liberals to justify acting the same as liberals... Yah, I read that loud and clear, you just don't want to hear it.

I used the exact words i meant to.....Just pointing out a fact, too bad you
did not get it, next time I will simplify the point for you....

Q: What's the difference between Obama and Dogsh!t? A: the Sh!t
doesn't stink quite as bad......
 
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