rear skid shock revalving; worth it?

[vdog0531]

Picked up 2012 pro rmk and i'm pulling the rear skid to have the rails powder coated black. I was wondering If its worth having the shocks revalved while i have the skid out. I am 245 plus gear. It is a 155 with 700 miles on it. if so, who would you recommend i send my shocks to? i'm in orem utah if that makes a difference. Thanks!

Vernon

 

[wjl]

Yes call Andy at 208-754-4373 he is just outside of west Yellowstone. Great guy to deal with quick turn around, very fair on prices and quality work.
Web www.gasshockrepair.com

 

[AdrenalineAddict]

I would positively have the shocks revalved at 245. I'm 205 and my Pro bottoms out through the whoops quite regularly. I love everything about the sled with the exception of the rear shock package. I can't recommend anyone in particular but I bet Tri-City Performance in Centerville would either take care of you or point you in the right direction.

 

[vdog0531]

awesome, thanks guys.

 

[Snodawg]

Ftxmotorsports "aka Fastrax in Puyallup, WA did mine and I would highly recommend them. Well worth it. You might look into a Fat Boy spring also. I just seen one in the swapmeet section.

 

[SpokaneRMK]

x2 for fastrax, the best in the biz.

 

[FCR112]

Picked up 2012 pro rmk and i'm pulling the rear skid to have the rails powder coated black. I was wondering If its worth having the shocks revalved while i have the skid out. I am 245 plus gear. It is a 155 with 700 miles on it. if so, who would you recommend i send my shocks to? i'm in orem utah if that makes a difference. Thanks!

Vernon

Absolutely 1000000% yes if you choose to stay with the stock shocks in the rear also get a heavy duty spring too.
The stocker bottoms out very easily even with the spring tension way up.
Certain folks would also say this soft rear set up helps the sled get on top faster in the soft powder... But at your weight there is no way I would EVER run the stock set up. It is one of the few weak points of the sled. One decent jump and the stock boards are going to bend too.

The Fox rear set up is a big improvement I have run both the Burandt set up and the Tom's/Holz. IMO the Burandt valving on the rears would be wasted on someone your weight, in fact if you went with Fox's call around and you could likely get them valved properly from the get go included in the price. I hear good things about both the raptors and exits as well.

Fwiw GSR did one of my M rears and Andy did great work, quick turn around with excellent prices... and a marked performance improvement

 

[COP-OUT]

Heaiver rear skid shock

What does Polaris or Walker Evans offer in the way of a heavier spring for the rear shock. I don't remember if the Pro has coil overs on both skid frame shocks. I ordered a new 163 Pro and need the heavier springs, plus I guess I will have to get the shock it self re valved??

 

[HOLZ]

Holz offers rider-specific custom valving.
We developed our base line for the valve spec directly with Burandt.
It works incredible and is best bang-for-the-buck suspension improvement for the Pro
http://www.holzracingproducts.com/service/

 

[FCR112]

What does Polaris or Walker Evans offer in the way of a heavier spring for the rear shock. I don't remember if the Pro has coil overs on both skid frame shocks. I ordered a new 163 Pro and need the heavier springs, plus I guess I will have to get the shock it self re valved??

Here's the Polaris HD RTS Spring PN for 2012...The weights are for rider WITH gear.


HD RTS Spring
Rider Weight*
250-300lbs./113-136kg
300-350lbs./136-159kg
PN: 7043741-067250

 

[Matte Murder]

I did the Holz set up last year. Love having the clickers on the shocks. I am just a little lighter than you, stayed with the stock springs. With the adjustable compression damping you can stay with the lighter spring and still not bottom out. All in it cost me just shy of $1000 to have all 4 shocks re-valved and the piggy back reservoirs added. They actually replace the front track shock with a complete new shock with the clicker resi on it. I am going a different way on my 13. If your current shocks are in great shape I will swap you for mine(perfect condition, only 400 miles on the shocks) if you toss in $500.

 

[mud99]

I'm 260 without gear, and i've had no issues with bottoming on the stock shock.

I think it depends more on how you ride, if you don't jump, the soft suspension works great even for a heavier rider.

 

[rick5150]

What about raptors triple rate springs?

Or his re-valving as well

 

[Matte Murder]

I think the Raptor triple rate springs are the shizz. First part is really soft so you get a supple ride and great side hill initiation, firmer middle rate so the sled doesn't just roll over without putting real pressure on the skis and then stiff at the bottom to prevent bottom out. They are cheap too. Like $90 a spring I think. This is what I would do with my shocks now but I am going another direction. BTW, I think the Raptors are the best performing shock package you can buy for the Pro right now. One thing the Pro really needs is some form of shock upgrade. Stock shocks are horrible, IMO.

 

[FCR112]

. One thing the Pro really needs is some form of shock upgrade. Stock shocks are horrible, IMO.

Agreed

Even after cranking the stock spring tension I would repeatedly bottom out the rear over fast rollers ON THE TRAIL on the way in and out of the areas that had groomed access to the goods.

At 200lbs (50lbs lighter than vdog) without gear I had to do something about it almost immediately and consider my backcountry riding style moderately aggressive at best.

There are many great things about this sled, the stock shocks aren't one of them.

 

[sketch96]

The biggest problem I have found on my 2012 is that the sled wants to buck you off on the rough trails going in and out of the mountains. My back is done by the end of the day. Is it worth spending the $1000 to get all the stock shocks revalved and reservoirs added? or should a guy just spend $1000 and get the raptor rear shock setup or the fox shock setup and be done with it? Do the stockers perform that much better after spending that money?

 

[sketch96]

I should add that I am 230 before getting dressed and that my rear suspension is setup by the polaris manual for my weight. My buddy has a 2012 m8 cat with fox's and it rides like a dream on the rough stuff.

 

[gman086]

I'm only 170 and was bottoming the stockers out HARD even when cranked up. That tells me that a WHOLE lot of compression damping was going to be needed if they intended to use the same springs (which Holz does and insist works). NO THANKS - shimming a shock for that much compression damping means the oil heats up faster and shocks fade sooner. I went aftermarket and never looked back! OTOH, now that multi-rate aftermarket springs are available, you probably could do a good tune on the stockers to get them to work. I'd be more inclined to have that tuning done by the spring supplier tho. I've run multi-rates on race sleds before working with Ross at Hygear Racing on my setup and you really need to know what you're doing when shimming a shock for multi-rate springs. Looks like he does have a dual rate setup for the Pro (heading says Assault but those shocks are from a Pro): http://hygearsuspension.com/pol_Assault_ProRMK_11.html. Adds remote resy's to both rear shocks too! I highly recommend his work.

Have FUN,

G "NEED MOAR SHIMZ" MAN (inside joke)

 

[sketch96]

thanks for the info! I will give them a call.

 

[Matte Murder]

Having clickers on the shocks is really useful. I mainly fiddle with the front clickers after I get the rear dialed in. I think the revalve is essential to get you in the ball park too. When the snow is deep and heavy I add 3-4 clicks to the compression damping to get the sled to really carve and not just lay over on it's side. On the less deep days or working though the tight trees my Pro seemed to work best on full soft. But at the end of the day it was also nice to add some clicks for the ride out. Offer is still open if anyone wants to trade their excellent condition stock pro shocks off a 12 and $500 for my Holz revalved remote resi shocks that only have 400 miles on them, perfect condition. I am going with Evol Xs up front and a Toms skid with Foxes on the back.