I agree with you on the new rigs...doesn't make sense to spend the extra $ (closer to $5k) on the diesel engine when they are getting worse mileage than the older ones. But, if you buy lightly used and let the original owner take the hit, it'll pencil out unless the price gap for fuel gets larger.
I'll take my '03 Cummins over my '08 F-350 gasser any day...much better mileage, more power, and just plain better for towing.
And to anyone claiming much over 20 mpg consistently out of a heavy truck, please share your secrets...maybe one of those Tornado devices stuck in the intake:rolleyes:
i get told constantly that i'm lying about my milage from my buddies. i drove to salmon, Id last week with one of my nay sayer buddies. went there and back (about 500 miles) and still had just a hair under a 1/3 of a tank left............i said to him "now do you belive me" he couldnt belive it. thats the guy with the 13mpg 6.4 ford.
on the D-maxes EGR block helps. one of the problems with that platform, at least the LB7,LBY,LLY (i've never been around an LMM) has is that the engine fan seems runs constantly. that sucks out a ton of energy. its takes a good 30-50hp to drive an engine fan.
far as the CR cummins goes, they really start working well once you get at least 50k miles on the truck. the rokktech crankshaft sensor is a really neat deal. its just machined so that you can adjust it from stock to 2 deg advance in .1 deg increments by using electrical tape pieces as shims. i run mine in the full advance. that does several things.
if you guys have noticed or remember how all these newer rigs run so much hotter EGT wise. thats due to the burn in the combustion chamber. EPA has placed emphasis on NOx reduction. so in a sense whats happend on these stock rigs is that they've been "detuned" from a combustion standpoint. well, the crank advance changes the burn in the chamber. it uses more energy form the combustion event to drive and force the piston down rather than just let the heat energy go out the exhaust. it also utilizes some of the fuel energy from the 3rd injection event that my 05' dodge has.
what makes it work so well is that torque from idle to around 12-1300 is noticeably increased. rokktech claims around 20%, and it sure feels like it driving it on the bottom of the rpm range. so what happens is you can drive with the first 1/2 inch of throttle and still keep up with traffic just fine in town. it also takes less throttle to maintain equal power compared to stock. down side is that warmup time is greatly increased in winter driving.
their muffler is really neat too. it cancels out all drone once your above 1500 rpm or so. its tuned in a way that it doesnt build back pressure either. no packing to wear out also.
how you drive is 90% of fuel economy. with my setup, i can drive like there's an egg under my foot, and still keep up with the pace of traffic. its a win win in my book.
i havent had a chance to tow very heavy with it since i put the sensor back in. since diesel is so dang expensive anymore, i'm planning on running it next winter and just live with the longer warmup time.