Raptor triple rate springs on Walker shocks
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RPS I just went to your site and didn't see different rate springs for the Polaris. Do you just call to order? Also, If I bought a full set of shocks for my 2012 Pro could they be used/modified to be used on my 2013 that is coming?
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Rally no worries for all intensive purposes you’re correct. We all kind of say the same thing it’s really just Semantics triple rate, multi rate, progressive rate, ect ect it’s all the same. What we’re trying to accomplish is stacking spring rates together to create a given curve that will work best for a given application (I will allude to the benefits of our one piece design in another e-mail). As far as the springs being categorized on the site we’re trying to better class them for a given rider and in all honesty we’re still figuring some of that out and the last thing we want to do is have something generic that won’t meet your expectations (call us). As far as the IFS (independent front suspension) I will have an answer on the length difference from 2012 to 2013 in a couple of hours along with caster camber curves so I will update everyone when we know. One thing that we do with our shocks is add and subtract spacers to achieve the correct length. Most of our shocks are built with internal spacers which is pretty killer for guys wanting to switch vehicles from year to year it gives you the ability to lengthen your shocks for a fraction of the cost. You simply have your shock guy (us) remove the spacers, service your shock, and send it back to you for $50.00! Hope this helps. Thanks RPS
Rally no worries for all intensive purposes you’re correct. We all kind of say the same thing it’s really just Semantics triple rate, multi rate, progressive rate, ect ect it’s all the same. What we’re trying to accomplish is stacking spring rates together to create a given curve that will work best for a given application (I will allude to the benefits of our one piece design in another e-mail). As far as the springs being categorized on the site we’re trying to better class them for a given rider and in all honesty we’re still figuring some of that out and the last thing we want to do is have something generic that won’t meet your expectations (call us). As far as the IFS (independent front suspension) I will have an answer on the length difference from 2012 to 2013 in a couple of hours along with caster camber curves so I will update everyone when we know. One thing that we do with our shocks is add and subtract spacers to achieve the correct length. Most of our shocks are built with internal spacers which is pretty killer for guys wanting to switch vehicles from year to year it gives you the ability to lengthen your shocks for a fraction of the cost. You simply have your shock guy (us) remove the spacers, service your shock, and send it back to you for $50.00! Hope this helps. Thanks RPS
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From the horses mouth..
Guys more changes on the IFS for 2013 other than the obvious things. 2012 shocks will NOT work for 2013 the 13 shocks are .875 shorter on extension and about the same on compression. It looks like the motion ratio is pretty close and shouldn’t change much the only real change was to straighten out the lower (steel) forging to make it lighter (alum) and more manufacturer able which caused the changes in shock lengths. I had a glance at these forgings (in billet) a couple months ago and they are really cool comparatively speaking! We have shocks for both applications call with questions. Thanks RPS
Guys more changes on the IFS for 2013 other than the obvious things. 2012 shocks will NOT work for 2013 the 13 shocks are .875 shorter on extension and about the same on compression. It looks like the motion ratio is pretty close and shouldn’t change much the only real change was to straighten out the lower (steel) forging to make it lighter (alum) and more manufacturer able which caused the changes in shock lengths. I had a glance at these forgings (in billet) a couple months ago and they are really cool comparatively speaking! We have shocks for both applications call with questions. Thanks RPS
comparison
I went riding yesterday and compared the new setup to a stock 600 Pro Rmk. The 600 was set up pretty soft for a nice ride down the trail and is just fine for someone who is unlikely to bottom the suspension out. I had my front springs set soft as well. The main difference is the resistance to bottoming. Whereas the stock setup is soft throughout the travel, the Raptor springs become noticeably firmer in the final half of the travel. I love the feel of the springs. Another thing I'll point out is this new setup is not worse in any way. I was concerned about that at first. The sled is still as maneuverable and easy to control in the the trees and on side hills. I'll ride the sled with this setup for the remainder of the season.
This is the first mod I've done to the sled (other than an MBRP can). I'm happy with the results but now it has started...I want to modify more! I think I'll start putting some cash aside and order the complete raptor setup next season!
I went riding yesterday and compared the new setup to a stock 600 Pro Rmk. The 600 was set up pretty soft for a nice ride down the trail and is just fine for someone who is unlikely to bottom the suspension out. I had my front springs set soft as well. The main difference is the resistance to bottoming. Whereas the stock setup is soft throughout the travel, the Raptor springs become noticeably firmer in the final half of the travel. I love the feel of the springs. Another thing I'll point out is this new setup is not worse in any way. I was concerned about that at first. The sled is still as maneuverable and easy to control in the the trees and on side hills. I'll ride the sled with this setup for the remainder of the season.
This is the first mod I've done to the sled (other than an MBRP can). I'm happy with the results but now it has started...I want to modify more! I think I'll start putting some cash aside and order the complete raptor setup next season!
Haha. You see the thing is I'll be ordering the shocks spring-less since I already have the springs.
I went riding yesterday and compared the new setup to a stock 600 Pro Rmk. The 600 was set up pretty soft for a nice ride down the trail and is just fine for someone who is unlikely to bottom the suspension out. I had my front springs set soft as well. The main difference is the resistance to bottoming. Whereas the stock setup is soft throughout the travel, the Raptor springs become noticeably firmer in the final half of the travel. I love the feel of the springs. Another thing I'll point out is this new setup is not worse in any way. I was concerned about that at first. The sled is still as maneuverable and easy to control in the the trees and on side hills. I'll ride the sled with this setup for the remainder of the season.
This is the first mod I've done to the sled (other than an MBRP can). I'm happy with the results but now it has started...I want to modify more! I think I'll start putting some cash aside and order the complete raptor setup next season!
Nice sled. Is that up the Koko Claims?
Thanks. Yes this was taken on Mear Lake up Koko Claims
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milo303
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Guess I'm not used to companies being so diverse and flexible! Thanks for the ideas!!
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