I'm not sure you can be a good Christian and a good american.....
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I'm not sure you can be a good Christian and a good american.....
people soup, we all taste the same
ya gotta put your hand out if your gonna help him up
So that dollar you are gonna give him is going to help him in life? No. It's gonna get him a cigarette from the next guy walking down the street. People are too soft. The guy has the option to not be there anymore. Might be a long road back, but he does have the option.
no maybe that dollar won't help him, but maybe the company for a minute will....or maybe that sandwich from my lunch will.
Heck that smoke he bought, hell that might help ease his mind from some problems he has going on.
Again, he isn't getting up and off that corner if someone doesn't reach out to him.
I don't think you and xrated are talking about the same guy on the corner...
So the sandwich from your lunch is going to put food in his gut. Then he will be in the same spot the next day begging you for another sandwich. You're ok with that? You would give this guy your sammich every day on your way to work because that is "helping" him?
Maybe not?
yeah he maybe in that spot...then again those sammiches(which are awesome) may give him the energy and strength to get going a bit. If he doesn't have to worry about where his food is coming from, he cna start to worry about something else. so yeah, I might pack an extra lunch each day.
Do you really, honestly 100 percent think that all those people out on the street like being there and like having to beg and panhandle for hopefully one meal a day, while watching peopel walk past who have 3 squares each day? Do you really think that they are choosing not to work at getting out of that situation?
Perhaps we are talking about different guys on different corners.....my guy he's someone's brother, someones son, maybe someones dad. and that's why I will reach OUT to his hand.
Every guy on the corner is one of those for sure. So you'd bring 10 sammiches for all 10 guys on that block?
Sldgy????? sldgy need sammich?
the thought has crossed my mind....rarely see more then one or two around here though
They don't necessarily have to like being there, but they sure as heck aren't doing anything about it, besides begging of course. Look on the bright side, maybe Obamy will pass something to make it mandatory for you to give that guy money.
Maybe they are trying or have tried to do something. But whose going to hire a guy with 3 months of grime on his skin, a beard with leaves, grass and food stuck in it. Whose clothes are to small or to big rags? And if nobody will hire him due to that, how is he to get the money to buy better duds? Where is he supposed to shower or get a good nights sleep so he has the energy to work.
Maybe they are trying or have tried to do something. But whose going to hire a guy with 3 months of grime on his skin, a beard with leaves, grass and food stuck in it. Whose clothes are to small or to big rags? And if nobody will hire him due to that, how is he to get the money to buy better duds? Where is he supposed to shower or get a good nights sleep so he has the energy to work.
could it be? I'd give sldgy all the samich's he'd ever need.
Very true. I have honestly thought about this before. It actually happened after I watched the movie pursuit of happiness w/ Will Smith. You, being a religious man, must have more faith in people than I??
When I was living in Spokane about 8 years ago, I worked across the street from a Safeway store. Every day for lunch I'd walk there and get a lunch. One day a woman was panhandling out front and I asked her what she was going to spend it on, she told me she needed 10 more dollars to afford a bus ticket to go see her daughter. I thought ok cool, so I gave her 10 bucks. Went in got some lunch and when I was coming out I saw her coming out of the liquor store across the street. Fool me once, shame on you........
naw not religous, religions suck big time. I'm like Defy's, Relationship. and my relationship tells me that we are all brothers/sisters so I gotta try and treat people good.
I read an interesting couple lines about homeless who panhandle for drugs, etc. I'm gonna try and find it tonight, it's a thinker for sure.
I read an interesting couple lines about homeless who panhandle for drugs, etc. I'm gonna try and find it tonight, it's a thinker for sure.
So let's put this into context...
...X would give the guy something without any preconcieved notions or judgement, knowing that he'll probably be there again tomorrow and is willing to do it all over again if possible.
...Woodzy won't give the guy anything because he has it all figured out, know's exactly what he's gonna do and is probably gonna be there tomorrow anyway so why bother...?
Don't get me wrong, I don't live under a rock and I know full well what the probability's of the homeless person are...but...
In AA, it's not the last drink that's the problem, it's the first....
Well, if your homeless, the last handout is the one that your after....you've finally got the person to a point where he/she can sustain themselves...
So my question is....How do you know if this is the last hand out, the one to get the guy (or gal) to turn the corner...? You don't and you won't...
Ahhhh....what to hell. I've got mine and worked hard for it so screw everyone else...
...X would give the guy something without any preconcieved notions or judgement, knowing that he'll probably be there again tomorrow and is willing to do it all over again if possible.
...Woodzy won't give the guy anything because he has it all figured out, know's exactly what he's gonna do and is probably gonna be there tomorrow anyway so why bother...?
Don't get me wrong, I don't live under a rock and I know full well what the probability's of the homeless person are...but...
In AA, it's not the last drink that's the problem, it's the first....
Well, if your homeless, the last handout is the one that your after....you've finally got the person to a point where he/she can sustain themselves...
So my question is....How do you know if this is the last hand out, the one to get the guy (or gal) to turn the corner...? You don't and you won't...
Ahhhh....what to hell. I've got mine and worked hard for it so screw everyone else...
OK here are a few of the things I read that I liked so much....and yes they are "religous" in context. So if somehow Blu Du ends up in here, you've been warned.
"The idea that giving to the poor is giving to God can be found throughout the Bible. It should be noted that nowhere does it mention giving only to those poor who are deserving or worthy, or those who are poor through no fault of their own. No. Giving is an act of mercy. What is mercy? It is when one is spared the negative consequences of one's misbehavior. The poor are not presumed to be innocent, nor are we to judge them to be guilty....It is the tender mercies of God that lead men to repentance."
To set this up, a guy was giving out clothes to the homeless that were meant to go to huricane victims, but they missed the truck. People who donated clothes had slipped cash into the pockets. The guy finds the cash and goes on a bender with it, and then comes up to apologize to the guy who had given him the coat and cash.
"I told him I was glad he had found the money. He was free to use it as he pleased. If it eased his pain for a few days, well, praise God. God commands me not to condem Oscar, but to show mercy. Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote "We need to relate to people less according to what they do or omit to do, and more according to what they have suffered"
"The idea that giving to the poor is giving to God can be found throughout the Bible. It should be noted that nowhere does it mention giving only to those poor who are deserving or worthy, or those who are poor through no fault of their own. No. Giving is an act of mercy. What is mercy? It is when one is spared the negative consequences of one's misbehavior. The poor are not presumed to be innocent, nor are we to judge them to be guilty....It is the tender mercies of God that lead men to repentance."
To set this up, a guy was giving out clothes to the homeless that were meant to go to huricane victims, but they missed the truck. People who donated clothes had slipped cash into the pockets. The guy finds the cash and goes on a bender with it, and then comes up to apologize to the guy who had given him the coat and cash.
"I told him I was glad he had found the money. He was free to use it as he pleased. If it eased his pain for a few days, well, praise God. God commands me not to condem Oscar, but to show mercy. Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote "We need to relate to people less according to what they do or omit to do, and more according to what they have suffered"
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