Polaris axys vs. skidoo 850 backcountry sleds
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bailer
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Is the axys cap not the same as the pro cap??
I tested my axys cap vs the doo cap and decided to run the doo cap on my axys.
The doo cap seemed to have more reliable vent system. The axis cap depends on the ball bearing remaining mobile.
I had read about the variable oil usage and people switching out the cap so decided better safe than sorry!
caps are the same. polaris might have tilted the top of the tank or something can't remember. Ever since i put doo cap on the 15' my oil usage became consistent. 72:1 prior to cap. after cap 40:1 area.
put Doo cap on 16' before i even fired it up. my son rides the 15 next to me all day so identical usages. top off every morning same amount +/- few cc's. both are in 40:1 range.
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hoov165x
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Wrong. My 1999 Polaris XC440 race sled had a coil over rear skid. It was a one year deal. They dropped it in 2000. That's a whole decade...
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hoov165x
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The first sentence of your original statement is incorrect, and is not factual. Polaris does in fact get credit for being the first to remove the torsion springs and producing a snowmobile with a coil over RTS. The year was 1999, a full decade before Cat.
So ur seriously going to give polaris credit because they tried to copy something (or paid for?)for one year in 1999 that apparently didn't perform as expected so they discarded it.
Then 10 yrs later Cat SUCCESSFULLY made a mountain skid without the torsion spring, ran it for a full 2 years before Polaris implemented that style in the RMK.
I am not giving Cat credit for innovating the removal of the torsion springs however, i will say, they are the first (of the big 4 manufacturers) to do it successfully for mountain sleds! Not the PRO RMK!
Why don't you google M-10/teamfast?
See how many years they produced their coil over skid before polaris copied or paid for its use?
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Then 10 yrs later Cat SUCCESSFULLY made a mountain skid without the torsion spring, ran it for a full 2 years before Polaris implemented that style in the RMK.
I am not giving Cat credit for innovating the removal of the torsion springs however, i will say, they are the first (of the big 4 manufacturers) to do it successfully for mountain sleds! Not the PRO RMK!
Why don't you google M-10/teamfast?
See how many years they produced their coil over skid before polaris copied or paid for its use?
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hoov165x
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Good grief, we are talking production sleds here right? Don't get your little girl panties in a wad.
You were talking Polaris and Arctic Cat in your original post. That implies we are talking production sleds. If we are talking production sleds, limited build, shorty's, long track, or otherwise, then Polaris gets the credit for the first coil over, period. Now honestly I really couldn't give a **** who put it into production first, I was just trying to point out a fact.
If we are talking about Gerard Karpik's M10, I've had 3 of them back when they first came out in the early '90's. They were used in a production application by Polaris for a short while- not sure if that was pre 99 or not, but I think it was just after. King Karpik's company was originally called FAST, Team Fast came later.
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Ok how about this.
FIRST PRODUCTION MOUNTAIN SLED without torsion spring rear skid was manufactured by which company?
A. Arctic Cat
B. Polaris
C. Ski-doo
D. Yamaha
I'll give u a hint.... it's A, Arctic Cat, 2009 M-series. FOLLOWING THAT, 2 whole years later, in 2011 Polaris came out with the PRO RMK, it does not have torsion springs in the rear skid, just like the M-series that came out 2YRS BEFORE.
Have u actually researched every sled made since the inception of the "snowmobile"?
There could be a sled made in the last 80years that has made a skid without the torsion spring rear skid.???
I WIN!
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FIRST PRODUCTION MOUNTAIN SLED without torsion spring rear skid was manufactured by which company?
A. Arctic Cat
B. Polaris
C. Ski-doo
D. Yamaha
I'll give u a hint.... it's A, Arctic Cat, 2009 M-series. FOLLOWING THAT, 2 whole years later, in 2011 Polaris came out with the PRO RMK, it does not have torsion springs in the rear skid, just like the M-series that came out 2YRS BEFORE.
Have u actually researched every sled made since the inception of the "snowmobile"?
There could be a sled made in the last 80years that has made a skid without the torsion spring rear skid.???
I WIN!
GS6
Actually 2008 Cat started using the air shock in the rear skid. I win.
A cat's pride tramp stamp as advertised on arcticcat.com, your choice of color. (Likely to give the dealer something to look at ???)
Sorry if you just had dinner...
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Ratchit
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I agree on a lot of what you said .
But the e tec 800 and reliability isn't as existent as some say. Di tech is prone to more heat and stress vs sdi,efi or carbs.
Di has fuel spray only on top of pistons(no fuel for lube or cooling below top of pistons)isoflex cranks with grease instead of oil injection to lube crank bearings. Heat, stress and friction are prone in the e tec Di.
There is a reason Doo has changed that in the 850 engine. now it has oil lubing crank bearings and fuel getting sprayed through throttle bodies. But Doo's not going to admit the old motor version is a pos, but their claiming reliability out of the new 850. We'll see??
i guess thats the only thing you looked at..talk about narrow vision
