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Picked up Klim Helmet and 509 Goggles today

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Ekliptix

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Grabbed these at the Calgary snowmobile show today.

The Klim helmet should be wicked to keep my head cool. It's also got better safety ratings over others. It also came with a spare visor (which I always smash crashing), a bag, and fitted breathgaurd (not pictured).

The 509 goggles seem provide a better field of view then I'm use to, and the colors match the helmet well.


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I just need this new 165hp beauty and I'll be set ;). Only $17,000.
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The RMK Pro looked cool. Nice and narrow. 3 friends bought one each, so I hope to try one out.
 
Very nice....going with a white lid/goggle combo myself this year



Your going to love the aviators!
 
Spare Visor, now thats smart marketing. Mine always end up smashed as well. Lookin good Graham
 
I got a Kilim helmet and have been thinking about getting a set of Aviators to go with.

How is the fit between the two? From the pictures they seem to fit fine, but when you are wearing them do the goggles fit snug on your face or do they hit on the helmet in places?
 
I got a Kilim helmet and have been thinking about getting a set of Aviators to go with.

How is the fit between the two? From the pictures they seem to fit fine, but when you are wearing them do the goggles fit snug on your face or do they hit on the helmet in places?
The goggles feel fine standing in the living room, but I'll give an update after my first ride for a better report on the sealing quality.
 
Functional & bad a$$ looking!!!!!! Perfect set-up!!!! I can't wait for UPS on Thurs. to bring my black ops. 509 goggles!!!!
 
Grabbed these at the Calgary snowmobile show today.

The Klim helmet should be wicked to keep my head cool. It's also got better safety ratings over others. It also came with a spare visor (which I always smash crashing), a bag, and fitted breathgaurd (not pictured).

The 509 goggles seem provide a better field of view then I'm use to, and the colors match the helmet well.


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all helmets must meet the same DOT standard, the Snell standard is optional

Snell Standards
The Snell rating is a more stringent rating, and is completely voluntary, meaning that helmet manufacturers can choose whether or not they wish to meet Snell's advanced safety guidelines. Snell standards are set to levels that only the best, most protective headgear will meet. Moreover, Snell certification is more than simply high "standards", it is based on actual testing of actual helmets.

DOT Standards
The DOT rating simply indicates that a manufacturer believes that its helmet meets the basic DOT standards, without any actual testing on the helmets themselves. In that sense, DOT ratings are fairly easy to come by, and virtually anybody can make and sell a helmet with a DOT sticker. Fortunately, DOT personnel periodically buys helmets and sends them to independent labs for testing to assure that they actually do meet the standard. The results are posted on the NHTSA website in a pass/fail form. You might be surprised to learn that more than half of all helmets recently tested with the DOT sticker on them actually failed DOT's lab tests.
 
all helmets must meet the same DOT standard, the Snell standard is optional
Yep, I preferred the Klim because of the Snell rating. I race the drag strip and this helmet will be allowed there too.

That is Kick *** man:face-icon-small-coo
What you got into that setup? $600??
Thanks. $200 for the helmet (!!!!!!), and $130 for the goggles, Canadian dollars. The helmet was buried in a pile with a "$200, quantities limited" sign above it at the snow show.
 
The SNELL rating is really overplayed. It is about a $150 sticker. The testing they use has no proof that you are any safer. The testing they do is not really a good test. The SNELL testing tests the helmets ability to take multiple hits in the EXACT same spot of the helmet. Not very likely that you will hit the same spot in one accident.

Here is a VERY long but informative read on helmets:
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/index.html

It mentions how EVERY helmet in the U.S. is required to have a DOT sticker to be sold.

In the test above they show that the cheap helmet you get at the auto-parts store protects the brain as good as an expensive helmet does and in some cases BETTER!

But as helmet technology has improved and accident research has accumulated, many head-injury experts feel the Snell M2000 and M2005 standards are, to quote Dr. Harry Hurt of Hurt Report fame, "a little bit excessive."

The killer—the hardest Snell test for a motorcycle helmet to meet—is a two-strike test onto a hemispherical chunk of stainless steel about the size of an orange. The first hit is at an energy of 150 joules, which translates to dropping a 5-kilo weight about 10 feet—an extremely high-energy impact. The next hit, on the same spot, is set at 110 joules, or about an 8-foot drop. To pass, the helmet is not allowed to transmit more than 300 Gs to the headform in either hit.

Tough tests such as this have driven helmet development over the years. But do they have any practical application on the street, where a hit as hard as the hardest single Snell impact may only happen in 1 percent of actual accidents? And where an impact as severe as the two-drop hemi test happens just short of never?

Dr. Jim Newman, an actual rocket scientist and highly respected head-impact expert—he was once a Snell Foundation director—puts it this way: "If you want to create a realistic helmet standard, you don't go bashing helmets onto hemispherical steel balls. And you certainly don't do it twice.

"Over the last 30 years," continues Newman, "we've come to the realization that people falling off motorcycles hardly ever, ever hit their head in the same place twice. So we have helmets that are designed to withstand two hits at the same site. But in doing so, we have severely, severely compromised their ability to take one hit and absorb energy properly.

"The consequence is, when you have one hit at one site in an accident situation, two things happen: One, you don't fully utilize the energy-absorbing material that's available. And two, you generate higher G loading on the head than you need to. "What's happened to Snell over the years is that in order to make what's perceived as a better helmet, they kept raising the impact energy. What they should have been doing, in my view, is lowering the allowable G force.

"In my opinion, Snell should keep a 10-foot drop [in its testing]. But tell the manufacturers, 'OK, 300 Gs is not going to cut it anymore. Next year you're going to have to get down to 250. And the next year, 200. And the year after that, 185.'"

"The Snell sticker," continued Newman, "has become a marketing gimmick. By spending 60 cents [paid to the Snell foundation], a manufacturer puts that sticker in his helmet and he can increase the price by $30 or $40. Or even $60 or $100.

"Because there's this allure, this charisma, this image associated with a Snell sticker that says, 'Hey, this is a better helmet, and therefore must be worth a whole lot more money.' And in spite of the very best intentions of everybody at Snell, they did not have the field data [on actual accidents] that we have now [when they devised the standard]. And although that data has been around a long time, they have chosen, at this point, not to take it into consideration."
 
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