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ON-THE-SNOW RIDE IMPRESSIONS: 2016 AXYS-PRO RMK ... OUR DAY IN APINE WYO.

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Heres a side by side, its easier to see the difference i thought... notice how much thinner the tunnel is in the back. how much higher the nose pan is. and how much more of the track where it comes off the drivers u can see.

Thanks for posting the comparison!

Does anyone have high resolution photos of the pro to compare to the axys without any plastics or engine installed?
 
Heres a side by side, its easier to see the difference i thought... notice how much thinner the tunnel is in the back. how much higher the nose pan is. and how much more of the track where it comes off the drivers u can see.

The sled is taller.
More clearance to the snow.
But the approach angle is better. :)

Liking the new fuel tank.
Console removal without taking the stupid nut off the gas tank. ��
 
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PART 3: ON-THE-SNOW RIDE IMPRESSIONS: 2016 AXYS-PRO RMK ... OUR DAY IN APINE ...

What happened to the rear tunnel stiffeners? Are they not needed now? On the inside?



See all the rivet heads in that area?



The rear track view in the released video (paused)

Shows some stiffeners.



Those things collected alot of snow.
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Looks coated on the inside?

I wanna know what the dark stripe down the center is???
 
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People keep talking about dropping a few more pounds. I say congrats to Polaris for ingenuity and keeping strength in the chassis and still weighing 40 lbs less then the competition. I will be adding some weight with a turbo anyways. The Pro was great and if the Axys handles even better watch out. I just hope we have some more snow next year.
 
Is it easier to initiate a carve or sidehill (initial roll-in) than a T3?
 
Here is a few of my observations; While the theoretical realized ratio may well be 2.25. To get there they they actually geared it higher at the QD. From the pics it is now a 43 Tooth lower sprocket (was 44 Tooth on the PRO). The center to center distance is only ~1/4" longer (scaled from the pics). Which makes sense if we assume they are continuing to use the same top sprocket and QD belt. That means they made up the 11mm (one tooth pitch) of distance gained by stretching the center to center distance. The PRO QD was a 21/44 for a ratio of 2.0952:1 the AXYS QD by all indications is a 21/43 for a ratio of 2.0476:1 it only comes close to the 2.25:1 when you add in the driver size change to 7 Tooth.

I'm not a fan of the status quo accepted use of the smallish 7 tooth driver. And I'll never run a seven tooth driver, even 8 tooth is too small for my liking. That said, I understand why most of you have chosen to endorse it's use. As that is what the market will tolerate cost wise. I find it SAD that the factory engineers have endorsed it's use and actually built a sled using this crutch necessitated by their poor engineering on the PRO-Ride chassis. When the next lug size track gets developed, will we go to 6 Tooth drivers, 5 Tooth? For this reason the engineering staff responsible for this portion are Idiots, IMO. Complete lack of forward thinking. No room for growth or expansion.

I may be alone on that sticking point, but I'm not budging from it. And no one to date has had a valid argument for going to the seven tooth. It is cheaper, period! NOT better by any stretch of the imagination.

In spite of that; I can see a easy sub 390# dry weight for far less than cost of a new Skidoo. First a Diamond S Ti silencer. Replace the fasteners with Titanium starting with the largest most stressed ones. Replace the smaller low stress fasteners with hard anodized Aluminum (like the tie rod boot bolts and others that are just holding plastics in place and such, no need for heavy steel or expensive Ti for those). I suspect that for about the cost of a new Skidoo we can have a 375# sled and for a bit more a 350# sled.

All without sacrificing any Reliability.
 
what holds the bellypan ahead of the shock towers in place? on the stripped pictures I noticed a small member that connects somewhere in the nose and only a bumper connected back to the shock towers. is the belly pan a self supporting structure? doesn't seem like alot of structure up there. if this is a carryover from the pro my apologies as I'm not that familiar with it.
 
I'm not a fan of the status quo accepted use of the smallish 7 tooth driver. And I'll never run a seven tooth driver, even 8 tooth is too small for my liking. That said, I understand why most of you have chosen to endorse it's use. As that is what the market will tolerate cost wise. I find it SAD that the factory engineers have endorsed it's use and actually built a sled using this crutch necessitated by their poor engineering on the PRO-Ride chassis. When the next lug size track gets developed, will we go to 6 Tooth drivers, 5 Tooth? For this reason the engineering staff responsible for this portion are Idiots, IMO. Complete lack of forward thinking. No room for growth or expansion.

I may be alone on that sticking point, but I'm not budging from it. And no one to date has had a valid argument for going to the seven tooth. It is cheaper, period! NOT better by any stretch of the imagination.


Not that I disagree with the logic of your position but do you have any actual numbers to support your case? Testing that would confirm the difference in efficiency between smaller & larger drivers showing that the realized gains are actually worth engineering the chassis for bigger drivers.

Serious / sincere question.........
 
If you think you are missing a 3-inch track or other options, what was released yesterday is only the base model. Much more to come on March 2
And I'm guessing the logic is....

....to get the best weight number for the debut. Which makes total sense. If there are models with 163" tracks, 3" track (not that you need one over a 2.7"), powder coating, etc.....won't weigh 409lbs. Close, but this model is probably lightest, and that keeps it simple for now.
 
I really like what PI has done with the new sled. With what the test riders are saying, but not saying.... March 2 2015 will be very interesting. This machine definitely looks like it has the basics to be the number 1 boondocking sled.
 
I really like what PI has done with the new sled. With what the test riders are saying, but not saying.... March 2 2015 will be very interesting. This machine definitely looks like it has the basics to be the number 1 boondocking sled.

Agreed. Even if this was all there was for next year I'd be happy, but I think there's more coming as well.
 
will the 2015 Kurts gear down kit work in the new chassis and motor. I would assume it would but if it won't I will sell it before I get rid of my 15 pro.
 
will the new seats be interchangeable? Just bought a new skinz seat for my 14 pro
 
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