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On the scale, PRO RMK 155"

lars53 said:
I did. note the 2011 poo 800 is an rmk http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280577
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Was the weight of the standard RMK taken before or after the jug of oil was sitting the running board?

Did any of the other sleds have additional weight added to them?

Were there any lightweight accessories on any of the sleds?

Were they all current year models? This would be nice, so that new kitty has a chance to be part of the group. :)

I think everyone is looking for a "fair" comparison...similar to the one posted above by milehighassassin. The main thing is that ALL sleds are coompletely STOCK!
 
ewsummit said:
If its not full of gas and you cant carry a gas can cause it will bend, how do you get out of the parking lot.
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obviously we throw it over our shoulder and carry it around. yes its that light :face-icon-small-coo

just pick a way and weigh them already. cripes.

:smow:??
 
From now on all weights submitted to this forum must include a fully geared rider on the sled in riding position. Sleds must be full of all fluids. This is an accurate "Ready to ride" weight.
 
Timbre said:
Was the weight of the standard RMK taken before or after the jug of oil was sitting the running board?

Did any of the other sleds have additional weight added to them?

Were there any lightweight accessories on any of the sleds?

Were they all current year models? This would be nice, so that new kitty has a chance to be part of the group. :)

I think everyone is looking for a "fair" comparison...similar to the one posted above by milehighassassin. The main thing is that ALL sleds are coompletely STOCK!
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Jug of oil is there because the tank of oil on sister inlaws sled was empty and i wasn't dumping $50 into her sled.

All sleds (except sis inlaw) were brought ready to ride, gas, oil, spare belt, plugs, anti freeze, the exact way you would show up to the hill, tank full of fuel regaurdless of weather one sled has a bigger tank than the other no one goes riding with out filling their tank all the way.

The sleds are the year that is posted by them no one in the group had their new cats at the time. Mods if any are posted also.

The idea of the post was that weight is not near as important as geometry everybody's b**ching bout how heavy this is, that is, but when it comes down to it the lightest riding sled in this group is one of the heavier. That said, since then I've had the chance to put some miles on the new cat, it may be heavier on the scale but very light feeling on the hill. My $0.02
 
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lars53 said:
The idea of the post was that weight is not near as important as geometry everybody's b**ching bout how heavy this is, that is, but when it comes down to it the lightest riding sled in this group is one of the heavier. That said, since then I've had the chance to put some miles on the new cat, it may be heavier on the scale but very light feeling on the hill. My $0.02
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Since you have a new cat in your possession, and obviously a scale to weigh it on, is there any way you could fill it with 5 gal of fuel and 1/2 gallon of oil and weigh it? Then fill it completely up with all fluids and weigh it again? Would be interesting to see...provided it is completely stock and you have not added any light weight accessories.

Also, would be nice to hear what the capacity of the gas and oil tank is. That would be one down and 3 more to go :)

Cheers!
 
Timbre said:
Since you have a new cat in your possession, and obviously a scale to weigh it on, is there any way you could fill it with 5 gal of fuel and 1/2 gallon of oil and weigh it? Then fill it completely up with all fluids and weigh it again? Would be interesting to see...provided it is completely stock and you have not added any light weight accessories.

Also, would be nice to hear what the capacity of the gas and oil tank is. That would be one down and 3 more to go :)

Cheers!
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Boy, that seems like a lot of work. Maybe I missed something here why half full? You can't accurately fill the oil half way theres only a full window in the aluminum tank:face-icon-small-con
 
lars53 said:
Boy, that seems like a lot of work. Maybe I missed something here why half full? You can't accurately fill the oil half way theres only a full window in the aluminum tank:face-icon-small-con
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NOT half full...... 1/2 gallon on the oil. Should not be alot of work at all to do this. Siphon the gas and oil out and fill as suggested and weigh it. Fill the rest of the way up and weigh again....should be pretty simple.

The reason for 2 weights is because some brands have smaller tanks (oil and gas) to compensate for their heavier overall weight, as this makes their RTR weight less (kinda cheating...eh?). I have been told AC is this way. Polaris tanks hold 11.5 gallons.

So the suggestion was made to put a set amount of fuel in the tank (say 5 gallons) and a set amount of oil in the reservoir (say 1/2 gallon) so that all are on an equal playing field.

Then do another weight with the tanks completely full to get the RTR weight.

Since you have the sled and the scale, now is a perfect opportunity to show these weights to everyone. Are you willing to do this?

Cheers!
 
I don't understand people and their ready to ride weights. You can't do that. Not all sleds have the same fluid capacities, and the ones that carry more fluids shouldn't be penalized for it. The idiots at Yamaha want to talk about wet weights since they put a ridiculously small gas tank on the Nytro to try to convince you that it's not as heavy as it is.

Dry weights, then do some multiplying by 6.2 to figure out how much it weighs when it is ready to ride if you want.
 
Teth-Air said:
I wandered into this thread just to see if there is anything new on the poo side of things because I own a 2010 Poo rmk and a 2011 Summit e-tec 154x and need to decide what to have in the trailer for future. So i will get ripped for not reporting RTR weights but my e-tec was full of oil and had 2 bars on the guage when I picked it up last year (about 20-25% of the 40 litres it holds) It was 505 lbs on a good quality scale. The thing is my 16 yr old kid rides the poo and uses close to double the fuel I use and its a 700 when mines an 800. I would only fill my tank 1/2 way for my RTR weight but the kid has run out several times and we just dump gas out of mine.:face-icon-small-con
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My 2010 summit has shown 2 bars of fuel for two yrs regardless if full or empty, just one more thing that has been back to shop at least twice for that thay can't seem to fix, my new pro uses less fuel, less oil, and everything works, kinda nice. Nice cuz pro has a mechanical gauge, it is what it is, no electrical to screw things up
 
Who really cares!!!

Who cares what each sled weighs with this or that, so all sleds being equal weight, all riders are not even close, guys with beer guts and 15 lbs of cold cuts in the pack vs the guy who does marathons on the weekend for something to do, hard core sledder vs weekend warrior, all different skill levels, these things mean more for sled performance than whose brand name is on the side, who has which mods, or at the last of things to consider....sled weight. I've seen a skilled rider throw a Nytro around in the trees like he was on a snowbike, and a guy on a pro that couldn't get up a bunny hill. Most important, ride what you brought, get out on the snow, enjoy snowmobiling, think that's the common goal??
 
pawpaw said:
Who cares what each sled weighs with this or that, so all sleds being equal weight, all riders are not even close, guys with beer guts and 15 lbs of cold cuts in the pack vs the guy who does marathons on the weekend for something to do, hard core sledder vs weekend warrior, all different skill levels, these things mean more for sled performance than whose brand name is on the side, who has which mods, or at the last of things to consider....sled weight. I've seen a skilled rider throw a Nytro around in the trees like he was on a snowbike, and a guy on a pro that couldn't get up a bunny hill. Most important, ride what you brought, get out on the snow, enjoy snowmobiling, think that's the common goal??
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There are many who care what the sleds weigh, just take a look at who has read this thread :)

Regarding "rider weight"....that has nothing to do with what the sled itself weighs. The rider is responsible for their own weight. Too light? add some cheese burgers...too heavy? hit the gym and stop the cheese burgers :)

Rider skill is also another completely different subject. I agree with your assessment on what one rider can do with a particular sled as opposed to another less skilled rider. But...again, that is not what this thread is about.

So back to the sled weights.... the question remains...will the cat guy who has the scale and the new kitty actually weigh it and post a report with pix? Or will the cat guys keep saying how it "feels light no matter what it weighs" ? I'm guessing the latter...unfortunately.

Cheers!
 
So, besides us deciding that belly button rings for tether attachment should be carbonfiber, have we settled anything?

Of course you can't ride a sled without fuel and oil.
Of course they all have differant capacities.

The whole idea of a dry weight is that's the way the manufacturer built it!
If you want to weight the sleds to see who built the lightest sled, that's the only way.
Best you can do.

Any other weight is compromised by personal prefferance of sled set up, tools, lunch, beer, clutch weights :face-icon-small-win etc.

Bag
 
Guys! Guys! Guys! Rest assured, I know the only way to weight sleds:

  1. Fill them full of all fluids.
  2. Ride them down a groomed trail 1.23 miles to the meadow.
  3. Ride them in a straight line across the meadow.
  4. Now that you are at the bottom of the hill you do a climb 141 feet up.
  5. Then go into a sidehill for exactly 47 feet.
  6. Now turn down and coast to the bottom of the hill.
  7. Immediately refill the sleds of gas and oil (buddy on the 1100 brings it in b/c no cares what it weighs).
  8. Now the helicopter, filming for legitimacy of course, lowers the weigh cable and weighs.
Only real to do it guys.


Bye
 
veritascs said:
Guys! Guys! Guys! Rest assured, I know the only way to weight sleds:

  1. Fill them full of all fluids.
  2. Ride them down a groomed trail 1.23 miles to the meadow.
  3. Ride them in a straight line across the meadow.
  4. Now that you are at the bottom of the hill you do a climb 141 feet up.
  5. Then go into a sidehill for exactly 47 feet.
  6. Now turn down and coast to the bottom of the hill.
  7. Immediately refill the sleds of gas and oil (buddy on the 1100 brings it in b/c no cares what it weighs).
  8. Now the helicopter, filming for legitimacy of course, lowers the weigh cable and weighs.
Only real to do it guys.


Bye
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Single or duel prop helo ?!?

Bag
 
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