NYTRO steering relocation

[Stlhead]

Will installation of this extra part really make an appreciable difference? I can't seem to imagine a need for it, I don't think I ever had a problem with the bars hitting my knees while riding. I have hit the bars with my knees while crashing, but I don't think this product will help with that. Also wouldn't a T topped steering post and a standard bar riser be a simpler approach to achieve the same effect as then no additional parts would be required. I am not trying to bash your product as it looks like a very nice part, I am just curious as to why it is required.
Thanks

 

[Thistledoo]

Because on the nytro the steering post leans back at a crazy angle....when you do a full sweep of the bars they drop alot on the ends compared to some other sleds....some guys cant get used to it and thats why Kurt made the kit.

 

[noob]

Will installation of this extra part really make an appreciable difference? I can't seem to imagine a need for it, I don't think I ever had a problem with the bars hitting my knees while riding. I have hit the bars with my knees while crashing, but I don't think this product will help with that. Also wouldn't a T topped steering post and a standard bar riser be a simpler approach to achieve the same effect as then no additional parts would be required. I am not trying to bash your product as it looks like a very nice part, I am just curious as to why it is required.
Thanks

it ain't required, just an optional upgrade for some people who dont' like the angle of the current steering post. I don't mind where the steering post is right now, but i ordered the relocation kit to try it out. i think that you put a t top steering post with an adjustable will make the steering even worse for a pivot point.

 

[wildchild]

do you make these kits for the Apex?

Only rx-1 and nytro . Yamaha moved the post forward on the apex compared to the rx-1.

 

[Stlhead]

I understand what the kit does, I just am trying to understand why that would be desired. As it has been explained so far the main benefit of the kit is to increase the angle of the steering post by 5 degrees making the bar action more like that of other sleds. I am familiar with the "crazy" angle of the stock steering post, while it is not very visually appealing to me it does make sense from a practical standpoint. When standing the bars are at a very comfortable spot for me, and when counter steering they offer a great deal of leverage without resorting to acrobatics, but not too much leverage. For a taller guy I could see the advantages of the kit, but with a longer bar riser to keep the bars in the same plane. I am curious as to how the kit effects the handling of the sled with all other things being equal. Has the kit been tested in various snow conditions and with multiple riders yet or will this be the first season?

 

[1slo_MM]

wildchild- figured id ask... thanks

 

[noob]

I understand what the kit does, I just am trying to understand why that would be desired. As it has been explained so far the main benefit of the kit is to increase the angle of the steering post by 5 degrees making the bar action more like that of other sleds. I am familiar with the "crazy" angle of the stock steering post, while it is not very visually appealing to me it does make sense from a practical standpoint. When standing the bars are at a very comfortable spot for me, and when counter steering they offer a great deal of leverage without resorting to acrobatics, but not too much leverage. For a taller guy I could see the advantages of the kit, but with a longer bar riser to keep the bars in the same plane. I am curious as to how the kit effects the handling of the sled with all other things being equal. Has the kit been tested in various snow conditions and with multiple riders yet or will this be the first season?

I guess the same reason why a guy would change the skii's out,they all do the same thing right?? It's just an aftermarket item that looks to "POSSIBLY" change the riding comfortability of a sled. We'll be able to give you a better report once the snow flies if there is any change at all.

 

[Blue Light]

Question

I can't imagine that the kit would in anyway interfere with the installtion of an intercooler...does it (Powderlites)?

 

[BCBOOST]

I can't imagine that the kit would in anyway interfere with the installtion of an intercooler...does it (Powderlites)?

Makes more clearence under the post....

 

[rotax]

I can't imagine that the kit would in anyway interfere with the installtion of an intercooler...does it (Powderlites)?

I'd think if anything, you'd gain clearance..
My radiator is very tight, rubs slightly against the post, moving the top forward at all would allow this to clear . . thus, adding clearance.

Unfortunately I just wasted a bunch of $s to get a pivot/riser setup that works on my sled and for me. Otherwise I'd gone w/ a T'top and relocate for sure.

I personally dont find the steering ackward, at least with the pivot adapter added.. But I came off a Rev w/ my risers turned straight up as well..so really has the same feeling.


But honestly, getting the position and feel that works FOR you is quite key in almost every aspect of riding. Being in that natural and comfortable position is up to you to find or decide.

 

[Timber700RMK]

Kit installs & look great. Have a question for you that have installed it. After installation, the ski alignment is off. No big deal, but what did you use to remove the tie rod end from the steering post flange? Mine must be pressed in real tight. Not budging at all. I want to adjust the alignment, but can not without removing that tie rod end.

 

[ruffryder]

Kit installs & look great. Have a question for you that have installed it. After installation, the ski alignment is off. No big deal, but what did you use to remove the tie rod end from the steering post flange? Mine must be pressed in real tight. Not budging at all. I want to adjust the alignment, but can not without removing that tie rod end.

There should be a key clip or what ever they are called on it. I always just loosened up the lock nuts on one of the tie rod shafts and adjusted it that ways. The shaft is threaded left and right so turning it one way makes it shorter, and the other makes it longer. This is with respect to the center of the tie rod ends.

Taking off the skid plate really helps with with this method.

 

[woodies]

Kit installs & look great. Have a question for you that have installed it. After installation, the ski alignment is off. No big deal, but what did you use to remove the tie rod end from the steering post flange? Mine must be pressed in real tight. Not budging at all. I want to adjust the alignment, but can not without removing that tie rod end.

how did the kit change the ski's?did mine and all your doing islifting top?

 

[Timber700RMK]

Youre lifting the top & pushing in on the bottom, not much but it does throw the alignment off a bit. Ruffryder: If the shaft is reverse threaded at 1 end that will work. I'll check it out.

Wildchilds directions even say to adjust alignment after installation. May not be off enough for some, but it bugs me

 

[woodies]

i better go check mine!

 

[Timber700RMK]

Checked the parts diagrams & it does seem that the steering rod does have reversed threaded tie rod on 1 end, so Ruffryder's suggestion will work. You can adjust the alignment without removing the tie rod from the post. I'll do that & see how that works

 

[ruffryder]

Ruffryder: If the shaft is reverse threaded at 1 end that will work. I'll check it out.

I am slow, but they are. It is easiest to do it with the skid plate off, unless you have really small hands. One thing I would recommend is to adjust it, measure it, Tighten everything down, measure and see how it looks. I have yet to find a quick process to get it in one shot. It takes me many iterations. Also, if you have not yet upgraded your a-arm bushings (stock sloppy ones) you are in for some fun, as the stock suspension moves quite a bit.

Also to note, the shaft has a couple of cuts on it so you can get an open end wrench on it, when you go to loosen up the nuts on the tie rod ends. I think you only need 2 14mm wrenches. Try and use some high quality (more precise) wrenches to limit rounding off.

Hope this helps!

 

[Timber700RMK]

Thanks Ruff! I see what you are referring to. Looks easy once you get everything off. My hands are nowhere near small enough to fit from the front. I'm thinking of changing to the Barkbuster front end & if they start making the oilite bushings for it, I'll get them too. Unfortunately, I didn't have my sled a whole lot before winter ended, so I have only 200 miles on it & the front end is not sloppy yet.
Thanks again!

 

[ruffryder]

My hands are nowhere near small enough to fit from the front.

No prob man.... though you are much smarter than me... Took me a whole half an hour of trying wrenches, ratchets, extensions.... busting knucles.... before I was able to figure that one out. Oh well, beer tastes better with freshly busted up hands.

 

[Timber700RMK]

No prob man.... though you are much smarter than me... Took me a whole half an hour of trying wrenches, ratchets, extensions.... busting knucles.... before I was able to figure that one out. Oh well, beer tastes better with freshly busted up hands.

Ha Ha How true! I know that from experience. My hands look like a war zone, but you're right, Beer tastes much better!