I have read I think just about everything I can find on the Nytro MTX. Most of it has been positive. I am curious what negative things people have to say about the sled, particullary from people that test drove one or have a friend that has one and just do not care for it. I am seriously considering buying one but have ridden only two strokes in the past and am concerned about the "learning curve" of going to a four stroke. The engine breaking concerns me in addition to the weight. Here in the flatlands, we do not have the opportunity to test drive sleds really so I need to rely on the opinion of others. I would be coming off of a M7. What should I expect? I ride mostly off trail but still ride the trails enough that it needs to be trail friendly. Trying to make a decision this week to try the four stroke of stay with another M sled.
Nytro MTX dislikes
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After 2 deep powder rides this past week, riding the Nytro is effortless in 2 to 3 feet of powder, I was more tired from driving my truck to and from the trailhead than I was from the sled. I have only put about 90 miles on the thing so far but so far I'm lovin' it... I came off of an 2004 Viper, the "lighten version" and thought it was a nimble sled but then I bought the Nytro. 
--The engine breaking is minimal on the Nytro, Yammie put a fix in place that has almost eliminated that quirk.
--Learning curve? Not sure, everything has a learning curve. I will tell you one thing you will have great big grin on your face throughout it and beyond. I have only "fallen off" the sled once so far..
Granted I have only been carving up meadows due to the snow is too deep to do any technical tree riding but I'll get there...
--Weight? Yes it could lose a few pounds, throw a light weight skid under it and it should be great.
--Test ride? Yeah I was worried too, never got a chance to test one, so I bit the bullet and went out and bought one anyhow....
--Buy a smokin, noisy 2 stroke? You're crazy!!!
--4 stroke -- turn the key and GO...
--Trails? No comment on that, don't do trails enough to know.
--Negatives so far? Slightly over weight, hand grips warmers shut off after a period of time, I would think a little reprogramming of the computer at the dealer should fix that, not postive though.
GO BUY ONE!!!
--The engine breaking is minimal on the Nytro, Yammie put a fix in place that has almost eliminated that quirk.
--Learning curve? Not sure, everything has a learning curve. I will tell you one thing you will have great big grin on your face throughout it and beyond. I have only "fallen off" the sled once so far..
Granted I have only been carving up meadows due to the snow is too deep to do any technical tree riding but I'll get there...
--Weight? Yes it could lose a few pounds, throw a light weight skid under it and it should be great.
--Test ride? Yeah I was worried too, never got a chance to test one, so I bit the bullet and went out and bought one anyhow....
--Buy a smokin, noisy 2 stroke? You're crazy!!!
--4 stroke -- turn the key and GO...
--Trails? No comment on that, don't do trails enough to know.
--Negatives so far? Slightly over weight, hand grips warmers shut off after a period of time, I would think a little reprogramming of the computer at the dealer should fix that, not postive though.
GO BUY ONE!!!
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I've got 400 miles on mine now. I said I'd never buy another four stroke after owning an rx1 for a very short time. The first couple rides, I felt like a beginner and wa asking myself, "What the hell have I done?". Then I finally adapted to it, and have never enjoyed snowmobiling so much in my life. If someone rides one for five minutes and says they hate it, take it with a grain of salt. It takes more than a short test ride to get a feel for the sled and get comfortable on it. If you want to put the highmark on the hill, then this is not the sled for you (in stock form).
Dislikes: Why no wind protection? Seat foam seems a little spongy, Stock clutching could use a little help.
Dislikes: Why no wind protection? Seat foam seems a little spongy, Stock clutching could use a little help.
I have almsot 800k on mine, have had it turboed from day one. Power is amazing and everytime I stop, people come over and drool on it. The places I can take it is unbeileivable, the power obviously helps, but the thing handles extremely well for a four stroke.
Don't care for the rear skid,got it dialed in so it don't wheelie to bad, but still to soft for the trail whoops if your trying to make up some time. Springs would fix that. Like the sled, so warrants me to spend the money for the timbersled skid this spring. Nice if you didn't have to do that though.
The maverick track is a joke if your a serious climber. Would have been good to have the 16x 162 track option from factory.
Jerry can and exhaust has to be dealt with before you ride it any distance, not hard on fuel, just a small tank.
Like it so much, sold both Revs and have the Nytro and Phaser sitting in the garage now, no looking back until other 4 stroke options prove them selves
Don't care for the rear skid,got it dialed in so it don't wheelie to bad, but still to soft for the trail whoops if your trying to make up some time. Springs would fix that. Like the sled, so warrants me to spend the money for the timbersled skid this spring. Nice if you didn't have to do that though.
The maverick track is a joke if your a serious climber. Would have been good to have the 16x 162 track option from factory.
Jerry can and exhaust has to be dealt with before you ride it any distance, not hard on fuel, just a small tank.
Like it so much, sold both Revs and have the Nytro and Phaser sitting in the garage now, no looking back until other 4 stroke options prove them selves
Could'nt agree with you guy's more. 800km on mine 750km turboed. First few rides took a little getting used to the rider positioning. Feels so much like a Rev. Like mtnmodviper says it takes more than a short ride to get comfortable. But once you ride it for a few days Everything else you get on feels pathetic. Mine is turboed with timbersled skid & 162 16w challenger extreme. So it is not a fair comparison of how this machine comes out of the box. But I ride with buddies that have them totally stock & there only complaint is the stock track. Buy it ride it love it you won't go back to a two stroke.
Realisticly, could I go from a 800 Summit to a stock Nytro & be satified with the power?
I am not into himarking, but I WILL NOT be happy falling behind!
The stock Nytro is NOT a climber... You will not fall behind in any other area except maybe repair bills...
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bdubs
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I came off an modded 8 to a stock nytro and have not missed the 8 what so ever.. I am not big into hill climbing anymore but still have to do some climbing to get into some prime tree riding areas and the nytro does fine. You will want to replace the track no matter what. Clutching needs some weights but other then that the sled is t!ts.
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At first I was not very impressed with this sled. (Coming off a turbo rev and big bore cat) Now that I got used to it I had a blast riding it in stock form. In my opinion the track works ok in the fluff but will be garbage in and kinda of firmer snow. My biggest complaint is how soft the suspension is. I set it up as stiff as I could and bottomed on everything and I am only about 165. Granted I knew the suspension and tunnel was all going in the spare parts pile so I was kinda riding it like it was stolen. Overall I think most guys could live with it stock and with the right mods I think this will be a great sled once the diet and turbo is all done.
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Nikolai
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Realisticly, could I go from a 800 Summit to a stock Nytro & be satified with the power?
I am not into himarking, but I WILL NOT be happy falling behind!
I went from a modded Rev 8 to the Nytro. I have 1,200 miles and don't miss it one bit. The top end on the Rev was way faster(but it was far from stock) but the low end and mid range on the Nytro is incredible. The handling it better than anyother sled Ive owned and they feel light as a feather when riding them. The only downside is they are heavy when stuck. I know all sleds are heavy, but you can feel the weight when your trying to lift the back end.
So far my only major problem with the sled is the track......way to soft but still works some what. Didn't test ride before i bought and this sled flat out rocks as far as handling goes!
I finaly rode a Nytro today for the first time.
it handles better than anything I've ridden.
it feels just as light as an XP, but way easier to turn on its side.
it is an amazing sled! I was very impressed.
it doesn't climb as well as an 800 two smoke, but I knew that.
it handles better than anything I've ridden.
it feels just as light as an XP, but way easier to turn on its side.
it is an amazing sled! I was very impressed.
it doesn't climb as well as an 800 two smoke, but I knew that.
I've got about 600 miles on mine, and so far its the most nimble, and the most fun I've had on a sled. This is what I've seen for issues/dislikes so far:
Bending subframe on the front of the sled...i haven't hit anything at all and mine is out over an inch. Still rides and handles fine, but I've got my fingers crossed for yamaha to do something about it since it seems like a consistent issue.
Hand warmers do not get very hot...mine seem to work okay, but are inconsistent with how warm they actually get. Some days they get hot, others they barely seem warm.
Weak springs. I weigh about 225 with gear and bottom on everything but the little bumps on the trail. However in the powder bottoming doesn't seem to be an issue.
Track....this is a huge let down. I did read somewhere that yamaha actually requested a stiffer lug on the track, but for some reason we still got the track that bends over at the first sight of setup snow.
Hyfax wore out at the 500 mile mark. I installed scratchers so hopefully that will extend their life.
Overall I still LOVE my Nytro. I wouldn't trade it for anything on the snow right now. I can climb with the average 700 and it feels right at home boondocking in the trees. It takes a few rides to get used to it, but once you do you will fall in love with how it handles.
Next year it is getting a new track, and an MCX Turbo
Bending subframe on the front of the sled...i haven't hit anything at all and mine is out over an inch. Still rides and handles fine, but I've got my fingers crossed for yamaha to do something about it since it seems like a consistent issue.
Hand warmers do not get very hot...mine seem to work okay, but are inconsistent with how warm they actually get. Some days they get hot, others they barely seem warm.
Weak springs. I weigh about 225 with gear and bottom on everything but the little bumps on the trail. However in the powder bottoming doesn't seem to be an issue.
Track....this is a huge let down. I did read somewhere that yamaha actually requested a stiffer lug on the track, but for some reason we still got the track that bends over at the first sight of setup snow.
Hyfax wore out at the 500 mile mark. I installed scratchers so hopefully that will extend their life.
Overall I still LOVE my Nytro. I wouldn't trade it for anything on the snow right now. I can climb with the average 700 and it feels right at home boondocking in the trees. It takes a few rides to get used to it, but once you do you will fall in love with how it handles.
Next year it is getting a new track, and an MCX Turbo
Hand warmers need to be warmer.
Better track options.
Bigger fuel tank or better exhaust system that allows you to carry extra fuel.
My left foot does seem to get very wet, good thing for gore tex.
Sled is to fun to ride, makes everything else boring...wait is that a problem.
Better track options.
Bigger fuel tank or better exhaust system that allows you to carry extra fuel.
My left foot does seem to get very wet, good thing for gore tex.
Sled is to fun to ride, makes everything else boring...wait is that a problem.
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Linc
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So after finally getting ride one for two full days,here's the skinny,got a chance to ride an XP as well,more on that later.
I set it up with a forward rider handle bar set up,changed the clutching, still working on that,but it's better,lifted the suspension to the upper hole,better weight transfer for stock machine,we have an under tunnel exhaust and heavy duty springs from the Apex and cranked up the front ski shocks.
The rider forward is amazing,totally different feel to this machine,much better.It makes the sled so manuverable and nimble and allows you to get over the front more to balance the sled more, this really makes faster trail riding more enjoyable.This sled is so easy to carve a side hill or just change directions. The lifted suspension makes it even more sensitive to thought changes ( that's when you think about changing direction and it does it.)it also makes it climb a bit better,I was trading highmarks with an 06 Rev 8,the Rev 8 out did it but not by much,sneaking through the trees it was better and I credit the track for that,the Maverick is king at going slow without spinning out.
The under tunnel exhaust makes it great for packing gas and luggage or skis and boards,however the 20 liter can is an absolute nightmare to boondock with, and the sound is not offensive.The heavy springs make the sled handle much better at speed, especially with extra weight on the back.
By the end of the weekend,I was sad to give back,the suspension was much better than the XP I rode and the power delivery is better as well.
I was really disappointed with the suspension set up on the XP,it rode very stiff and rough,maybe some calibration would fix that.This XP though has yet to go through a belt and he still had all the guards in place,650 k and still on a 166 belt,truly an oddity.
Linc
I set it up with a forward rider handle bar set up,changed the clutching, still working on that,but it's better,lifted the suspension to the upper hole,better weight transfer for stock machine,we have an under tunnel exhaust and heavy duty springs from the Apex and cranked up the front ski shocks.
The rider forward is amazing,totally different feel to this machine,much better.It makes the sled so manuverable and nimble and allows you to get over the front more to balance the sled more, this really makes faster trail riding more enjoyable.This sled is so easy to carve a side hill or just change directions. The lifted suspension makes it even more sensitive to thought changes ( that's when you think about changing direction and it does it.)it also makes it climb a bit better,I was trading highmarks with an 06 Rev 8,the Rev 8 out did it but not by much,sneaking through the trees it was better and I credit the track for that,the Maverick is king at going slow without spinning out.
The under tunnel exhaust makes it great for packing gas and luggage or skis and boards,however the 20 liter can is an absolute nightmare to boondock with, and the sound is not offensive.The heavy springs make the sled handle much better at speed, especially with extra weight on the back.
By the end of the weekend,I was sad to give back,the suspension was much better than the XP I rode and the power delivery is better as well.
I was really disappointed with the suspension set up on the XP,it rode very stiff and rough,maybe some calibration would fix that.This XP though has yet to go through a belt and he still had all the guards in place,650 k and still on a 166 belt,truly an oddity.
Linc
Yea, what is up with left foot getting wet all the time?
yep, its all about sincronizing your weight with the throttle, when you learn to do that, it's the best ride out of the box you can buy. took me three rides.
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