Not impressed with my pump gas m1000T

[Snowjunky]

Dont touch a thing except for your gas cap. At 4 pounds with 100 octane you could chill a beer in the cylinders. Run straight pump gas 5 or 6 pounds and then tell us how it feels. 8 lbs easy on pump. Add 2 gallons of race or av to be safe for LONG pulls. Watch your Egts.It should warm up a bit. I bet your running really cool huh?

 

[shadow conspiracy]

I bumped it up to 6-7lbs. Gonna try half pump half AV the next ride and see how it works.

 

[backcountryislife]

I bumped it up to 6-7lbs. Gonna try half pump half AV the next ride and see how it works.

get rid of the av! You're missing what everyone is saying.

 

[minecat]

stop wasting money on av gas.

just plain silly.


and even at 4psi... something is wrong, but as was mentioned above, are you talking about a drag race or a climb?

Stop getting that funny gas from the airport!

I ran AV gas in mine all last year mainly at 6 pounds of boost and the price i was paying was only 50 cents more per gallon than premium and I had the piece of mind that i was not getting some bad ethonal fuel out of some dirty tanks 50 cents more per gallon is very cheap insurance compared to a burn down becuase of a crappy tank of fuel turbos are not cheap so why be a tight azz after you plunk the big coin down and another plus is that you can turn the boost to 11# with no problems, just my experience

 

[shadow conspiracy]

i hear what your saying. I would rather be safe then sorry. Most likely im just gonna add 2 gallons of AV and the rest pump. My elevation is only 4-6000ft.

 

[minecat]

one more side note is are the people running 100% pump gas running M8 or M1000 sleds the 1000 has no deto sensor as the 800 and the porting is completely different I ran my 1000t against a t dragon last year i was at 4.5 to 5 # and the dragon was at 12# and i could out climb and flat out run it and i weight about 65# more plus the extra weight of the sled compared to the dragon I really dont think you have a octane problem if it were 110 octane or higher i might believe that but 100LL no way in my opinion but i have been wrong before good luck to you

 

[sledfreak89]

****.... If i dropped the coin on a turbo and it wasnt running right id have them on ****ing speed dial. Lol

 

[WyoBoy1000]

If you want to be safe then run 2 gallons of race with 91, for some reason every turbo kit builder I have heard from says run pg or rg but not av gas????? I think with a good map you can easily run 6lbs on pump. If worried run 4.5lbs and pump.

 

[backcountryislife]

I ran AV gas in mine all last year mainly at 6 pounds of boost and the price i was paying was only 50 cents more per gallon than premium and I had the piece of mind that i was not getting some bad ethonal fuel out of some dirty tanks 50 cents more per gallon is very cheap insurance compared to a burn down becuase of a crappy tank of fuel turbos are not cheap so why be a tight azz after you plunk the big coin down and another plus is that you can turn the boost to 11# with no problems, just my experience

It's not JUST about the money. People who are running far too much octane are losing performance also. Don't get me wrong, I haven't even pushed mine to a point where I've seen the det sensor, but I do know I'm PRETTY close to optimal.

Running 4x the amount of race or av that you need is running the sled too cool & is less than ideal. Running a gal or two of race to be safe on the other hand is smart, not picking on that.

I think a conversation about PROPER octane needs to be had, so many people are way over what they need on here, and have no idea what it does.

 

[mynewuseddoo]

I notice a difference from running straight av to running a 50/50 mix. I am running a 50/50 av/premium mix now, at about +/-6500 feet and 8-9 psi boost in my m8. Runs fantastic!

 

[shadow conspiracy]

I agree I was over octaning. That's why I mentioned from the begining that I was running straight AV. there is a real good post in the Polaris section about Av and the difference from race fuel.

 

[backcountryislife]

I notice a difference from running straight av to running a 50/50 mix. I am running a 50/50 av/premium mix now, at about +/-6500 feet and 8-9 psi boost in my m8. Runs fantastic!

About what is the octane difference between the two? I'd think you'd be pretty close from one to the other?

50/50 pump & race puts you around what? 97 or so? 100LL is around 104 they say right? I'll be honest I read some of that thread & don't get how av compares octane to octane.

 

[Vertical-Extreme]

About what is the octane difference between the two? I'd think you'd be pretty close from one to the other?

50/50 pump & race puts you around what? 97 or so? 100LL is around 104 they say right? I'll be honest I read some of that thread & don't get how av compares octane to octane.

I think 50/50 is probably closer to 95 MON and Conoco say AV is 104, so that is a big octane differance. I thought (could be wrong, usually am that most of the AV gas was a shell product. I run it, and treat it as 100 octane, I have done a few pulls at 6000 ft ish at 15 lbs ( not on purpose) thought my boost was around 12 hit a hill, seen 15 lbs and had to keep going, Im not running stock compression either though

 

[shadow conspiracy]

From what I understood from that thread was that av has a mon of 104 while race fuel has a mon of 105. Can't remember what brand of race fuel that was. I'll look for the link to that thread when I get home and post it here.

I was running straight av to be safe and I've been thinking this was my problem from the begining. Or atleast obe of my problems. There's not alot of pump gas 1000's running around and was hoping for a little info before I started using straight pump gas.

Another problem I was told I might have by OVS is if I didn't weld up my pipe just right that it will rob alot of HP. I hope that's not the case. Might just have to buy a turbo pipe then.

 

[minecat]

I can see others point of view but what i am saying is that AV gas worked for me day in day out at 4.5 to 5 #'s of boost I did not have any problems beating a 800 class turbo sled running 12 #'s or less on any give day I did build the kit my self so that is why i chose to run the AV gas in the first place and it flat out worked with it so i stuck with it (cheap piece of mind for me) after half of the season I sent the cylinders and head to twisted to have there setup done to them, on a side note that was the best money i spent on the T1000 for sure, one more thing on hte av gas i ran EGT's before the o2 sensor and they ran consistantly at 1180 at WOT and ounce i switched to a AEM o2 it would reed 11.8 to 12 consistantly so from my experience i deducted that AV gas did not run to cool in my sled and is what leads me to believe that it is not your problem.GOOD LUCK

 

[knifedge]

--Really, check the limiter straps on your rear skidframe.. If they are sucked up tight, your going to be pushing snow and spinning the track like a 1" x 121". You need to loosen them up substantially. You did say it was trenching really bad, so your rear skid is not set up correctly in addition to any engine tuning issues you may have.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

--Really, check the limiter straps on your rear skidframe.. If they are sucked up tight, your going to be pushing snow and spinning the track like a 1" x 121". You need to loosen them up substantially. You did say it was trenching really bad, so your rear skid is not set up correctly in addition to any engine tuning issues you may have.

Although I don't like sucking up the straps, you are bass ackwards on that, letting them out and increasing spring pressure will make it trench worse. Pulling them up is supposed to make it trench less, but my theory is to let them out and run very little pressure. But having them up doesn't make it a 121 because it is like have one long straight approach angle.

 

[Wheel House Motorsports]

a turbo m1000 with a dog**** skid setup will still impress you, might not climb the best, but would get after it hard on the trail and still climb halfway decent..

not really sure on ideas.


double check your pipe all over for cracks, they will run like turds if any of the seams blow out.. just more things to keep an eye on.