well still haven't bought it, i have been looking around, but it's looking like i'll probably end up in the titan. I drove a couple tundras today, and while they're nice, just not my cup of tee. Also looked at a brand new Titan today, but changed my mind about that real quick when they offered me less than 6000 on my GMC. I thought usually New car dealers were better with trades, but apparently they think with their 6000 cash back they don't have to give people money. The used dealer made a bad offer but not nearly as bad as that. Which i expect it to be low right now. I'll try to get pics tomorrow, my wife left the cam at her mom's. Unless i decide otherwise.