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New crank and clutch combo pack from Polaris for 700/900?

That's what I figure, If Polaris is coming out with a new crank package (for the 900) then they are going to introduce a big bore sled next year. Not sure what it will be, however from what dealers are hinting, they would like to see the 900 come back.
I would hope they come out with at least a honest 900cc not just 866cc.
 
on top of that.

If they knew how to clutch one from the factory they won't break half as many cranks.

Over 75% of the cranks that break, broke do to incorrect clutching from the factory!!!

Motor mount problems are almost exclusively caused by improper clutch set-up.

The TEAM driven has cause most of these problems, And its NOT the clutches fault. Its tester that have their heads in their a$$es.

heres another example of the one of the stupids things I just read the other night.............

New Snowest magizine.

A Dude standing there looking cool in his shades says.............

RPM's to low................... Try changing to a harder belt that slips.

The guy should have been fired from his job 5 seconds after he spoke.

I laughed so hard I about fell off the pot.:D

I think he should stick to riding and not speaking.

Super tuner seen wearing shades and a Cat jacket :eek:
 
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Haha!!

New Snowest magizine.

A Dude standing there looking cool in his shades says.............

RPM's to low................... Try changing to a harder belt that slips.

HAHA!!

now thats some funny chit..

i guess it shows that any moron can be a test rider..or at least be in a magizine..this is probably the same guy that thinks "decals on import cars add horsepower" lol...

DAN..you will be getting an email from me on fri about doing some clutching for me on my 05 900 and my wifes 06 700, TAX time is almost here, which means i have $$..haha..or not..
 
Naw....

This "new" crank has been around since late 2006 in the 2007 prototype 900 (935cc) sleds...that never got produced.


My guess is that the 935 or a bigger 950 will be on the way. ... which would be the death of the 700

That's what I figure, If Polaris is coming out with a new crank package (for the 900) then they are going to introduce a big bore sled next year. Not sure what it will be, however from what dealers are hinting, they would like to see the 900 come back.
I would hope they come out with at least a honest 900cc not just 866cc.
 
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Dave, this is not rocket science.

Tell me why Polaris uses a clutch bolt the size of a bulldick and a 30mm pto-end................After they drill & tap the clutch bolt hole there is nothing left of the crank. ( Thats just plain stupid )



The amount of steel ( Thickness ) of my 33mm pto-end with the combo of a bigger 33mm pto- end and a much smaller bolt makes it over twice a strong and twice as thick then a stocker.

Then Polaris goes to 32mm.............WTF ??? and that great big bolt. stupid to say the least.

Don't you ever wonder how some of those people up there keep there jobs ????

Dan


I dont mean any disrespect here. I think you make a fine product and sell it at a fair price.

I think it is more of a case issue than a crank issue.

After riding my sled last weekend with the new motor, I noticed a huge difference in the amount of vibration that the motor used to have. I dont really know why there would be a reduction in vibration but it is apparent.

You ask if this new crank is perfect, probably not, but it is surely better than the old one. Nobodys perfect not even you.

Sorry about the rant but I get tired of all the bashing.
 
Dan.... sounds like a conversation we had recently...(wink wink)

Like we talked about... some of the chassis are born belt and crank eaters... either they were wrecked at some point or were never built to spec to start with....I've seen 2 sleds that got new bulkead/tunnel assemblies that cured the belt issue....

There is no adjustment available in the 900's for clutch alignment, None, nada, nothing... nothing to do about it.... this is a very long story...

also the 2005's motor mounts were too soft..
 
also, on top of it all.... most people dont even maintain their sleds till there is a problem....much less fine tune them....

I'm very pleased that Polaris is offering that complete kit... maybe they should sell the cases with a "package price" as well.

warm up those 900s well before you ride and a lot of the problems will be gone too!!
 
Naw....

This "new" crank has been around since late 2006 in the 2007 prototype 900 (935cc) sleds...that never got produced.


My guess is that the 935 or a bigger 950 will be on the way. ... which would be the death of the 700
wow i didnt know they planned on making an 07 935. it would have been a good sled if they fixed the crank issue. Now im really itching to see what they unveil in april at the sled shows.
 
I dont mean any disrespect here. I think you make a fine product and sell it at a fair price.

I think it is more of a case issue than a crank issue.

After riding my sled last weekend with the new motor, I noticed a huge difference in the amount of vibration that the motor used to have. I dont really know why there would be a reduction in vibration but it is apparent.

You ask if this new crank is perfect, probably not, but it is surely better than the old one. Nobodys perfect not even you.

Sorry about the rant but I get tired of all the bashing.

Dave, No offense taken. I respect your opinion.

Dave, I am sorry I sometimes come accross so calus about Polaris.

Keep in mind I absolutely live and breath Polairs, Their product is a huge part of my life.

Don't take what I say as bashing........... When I talk Polaris in negitive way...........Its because I have a hard time understanding a company with their resources building things in a way that was completely wrong in the most basic sense.

Dave, The way i look at The Polaris Crank kit for the 900.............

Let see........... New Bigger PTO Crank, New Drive clutch, and crank seals.

What does my Torque Master III 3 year warranty come with ?????

New Bigger PTO Crank, New Drive clutch, and crank seals.

The Only thing I don't offer is a new belt................... Why do they GIVE you a belt............... Because they don't want it to break and ruin the new crank. PLAIN and simple.

I believe the kit was offered for two reasons.

1 - To cut sales of the Torque Master III
2 - They had a bunch or cranks sitting around with 32mm taper
for $992.00 dollars that know one could use.

Ok, alittle math.

New 32mm Crank $992.00
New drive clutch $445.00
PTO crank seal - $019.00
Mag crank seal - $16.00

Total ----------$1472.00 + Tax in your state>

For the same exact crank you had other then alittle bit bigger PTO-end.
And most customer that lost a crank needed a drive clutch also. ( You get No case work ) No Triple Lock ring bearing PTO set-up. ( Little to no warranty. )

Torque Master III - $2495.00 3 year warranty. Completely assmbled ready for cylinders.


So, from my point of view their hand was a bit forced.

To took them years to come up with someting so brillant.

I had it done in a Two man shop before the 2007 Dragon was built.

Dave, I would just really like to have Polaris resources and be able to build
a complete motor with their budget. Thats the frustrating part for me.


They have an army and they constantly make gerenal mistakes.

I have two guys me and my brother, To do the entire process.

We are floor sweepers, plow snow, carpenters, shipping and receiving and customer service, advertizing. plus 10 other things.

So Dave, I guess thats why I ***** once in awhile. :D

I am probably one of the most positive people you could even know about the Polaris snowmobile. Its a passion you can't imagin. :D

No harm intended.

Dan
 
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Dan.... sounds like a conversation we had recently...(wink wink)

Like we talked about... some of the chassis are born belt and crank eaters... either they were wrecked at some point or were never built to spec to start with....I've seen 2 sleds that got new bulkead/tunnel assemblies that cured the belt issue....

There is no adjustment available in the 900's for clutch alignment, None, nada, nothing... nothing to do about it.... this is a very long story...

also the 2005's motor mounts were too soft..


LOL!!!!!!!:D Eric, Its always a pleasure to chat with you. :D

950 !!!!!!!!!!! BRING IT ON POLARIS!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D

The 900 is to good a motor to give up on. :D
 
HAHA!!

now thats some funny chit..

i guess it shows that any moron can be a test rider..or at least be in a magizine..this is probably the same guy that thinks "decals on import cars add horsepower" lol...

DAN..you will be getting an email from me on fri about doing some clutching for me on my 05 900 and my wifes 06 700, TAX time is almost here, which means i have $$..haha..or not..

:D Sounds good.!!!!!!!!!
 
Dave, I would just really like to have Polaris resources and be able to build a complete motor with their budget. Thats the frustrating part for me.

Unfortunately, it's ALWAYS about the almighty DOLLAR. Always someone above you saying how little money you can spend on your R&D and it's always too much. Too many of these people feel that warranty is ACCEPTABLE! The problem with analizing warranty claims for large companies is the INDIRECT cost of warranty, ie lost sales due to poor perception of a said product or line, etc. If it can't be entered on a P&L sheet, it's not considered. This isn't a Polaris issue.
 
Unfortunately, it's ALWAYS about the almighty DOLLAR. Always someone above you saying how little money you can spend on your R&D and it's always too much. Too many of these people feel that warranty is ACCEPTABLE! The problem with analizing warranty claims for large companies is the INDIRECT cost of warranty, ie lost sales due to poor perception of a said product or line, etc. If it can't be entered on a P&L sheet, it's not considered. This isn't a Polaris issue.

Dave, - That is RIGHT ONE THE MARK!!!!!!!!!!!

WELL SAID!!!

The college professor and the P&L is what has been driving this country
to where its at right now.
 
900 crank.

I to went with the polaris kit. My new dlr had one and i had to show him it was a complete kit he didnt even know. price was affordable. i hope it stays togather. engine and sled are done and im going riding tomorrow. I willl say vibs are way way less. Dan do you think i should still have my new clutch rebalance? My old one now that i look at it had a lot of balance holes drilled in it the new one doesnt. I would love to run your crank but money wouldnt let me . Ride or dont ride ya know.
 
I to went with the polaris kit. My new dlr had one and i had to show him it was a complete kit he didnt even know. price was affordable. i hope it stays togather. engine and sled are done and im going riding tomorrow. I willl say vibs are way way less. Dan do you think i should still have my new clutch rebalance? My old one now that i look at it had a lot of balance holes drilled in it the new one doesnt. I would love to run your crank but money wouldnt let me . Ride or dont ride ya know.

my honest opinion, Is unless you know behond a shadow of a doubt that
where your sending it they know EXACTLY HOW TO SET-UP AND BALANCE A DRIVE CLUTCH.

Don't have it done if your not sure.

Poor clutch set-up is responsible for more cranks then balancing by a thousand miles.

I hate balancing clutches because its very time consuming and very little profit for time spent but I do the best job that can be done. But its rewarding when you know they are getting their money's worth.
 
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Naw....

This "new" crank has been around since late 2006 in the 2007 prototype 900 (935cc) sleds...that never got produced.


My guess is that the 935 or a bigger 950 will be on the way. ... which would be the death of the 700

So just how excited should one be that polaris would actually make this engine again considering they fix the crank issue? Or should the hole thing just be left to speculation and be nothing more than a pipe dream for now? I think it would be awsome if they did it but i dont wanna get too excited if it is just speculation and heresay.
 
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