my idea for job creation

[ruffryder]

What is this fixation you have for that issue, I allready answered your question, start a new thread this ones long enough.

Whats the fixation on thread length? I talked to christopher, he said it is ok for you to post a response here... lol. No fixation, just curious why it seems you only could answer the question half ways...

No one said It was a Gift, that wasn't the point of the argument, read the posts.

IMO, sent implies gift. If you meant otherwise you should have been more clear in your statements. The point is to be accurate in this discussion. You used the EX-IM bank example as a means of showing funds being directed at other countries while denying those funds in this country. When in actuality, those funds could never have been used in this country, as that is not the objective of the EX-IM bank.

The analogy is accurate the Boeing part just hasn't happened yet. I am sure the rig workers in the gulf would love to have those jobs!

I guess, but they should probably complain to the correct office / part of location. The causality in your argument seems incorrect. The EX-IM bank does not make the decisions to limit drilling, nor to increase safety ratings of airplanes or what not. Blaming the EX-IM bank for these issues seems incorrect.

 

[ruffryder]

Maybe thats because most americans don't want those wind farms. There is plenty of newer solar technology they could loan money for, but that might stay in the us and create jobs for us workers. Even T Boone Pickens gave up on wind power. Swampy

I think it was more about the reduction in certainty about renewable energy credits. Why would the EX-IM bank loan money for solar panels here???

You have spent part of 2 posts whining about journalistic standards and post a blog from someone even you didn't know existed a week ago, how many pages on google did you have to check out to find that one.

2. Internet is great isn't it?

" As I understand it, the Brazilians were the first to apply for a permit for an FPSO. I think they are ahead of the game on that specific technology."

As I understand Jesus existed and was god, does that now mean you believe in christianity as jesus created?

The quote was from Dan Simmons of the Institute of Energy Research, not the author of the article. I guess it would be an important issue, if the whole argument was based on it..

ANOTHER OPINION From the link
"Although many would have wished to find a nefarious connection here as a good investigator I need to be “fair and balanced” and if there is one it is extremely well hidden. I will point out that Soros through his Soros Management Fund does own a ton of oil, natural gas and mining stocks not only in US companies but foreign companies as well. He’s very diversified."

That quote is the summation of the article that was based on the information he provided in it. What is wrong with that? Yah it was an opinion based on the information that he gathered in the article... It is striking you don't see the difference here..

The issue is actually OB halting all exploration and drilling on US leases in the gulf while loaning to Brazil to drill in the gulf and sell the product back to us, leaving the american workers out of the loop and the work, lots of jobs created there for us workers!

Why do you think Obama had anything to do with coming up with the idea to loan money to Brazil? You make it sound like it was his grand plan or something.. This isn't the Simpsons, he is not Mr. Burns...

 

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Me, my Bro, a Mod, and Ruffy. Do we need to get a life or what?

 

[ruffryder]

Me, my Bro, a Mod, and Ruffy. Do we need to get a life or what?

probably just me... on to plan C I guess...

 

[swampwater]

Whats the fixation on thread length? I talked to christopher, he said it is ok for you to post a response here... lol. No fixation, just curious why it seems you only could answer the question half ways...

Well why don't you get Christopher to answer you in this thread?

Ruffy:
IMO, sent implies gift. If you meant otherwise you should have been more clear in your statements. The point is to be accurate in this discussion. You used the EX-IM bank example as a means of showing funds being directed at other countries while denying those funds in this country. When in actuality, those funds could never have been used in this country, as that is not the objective of the EX-IM bank.

Touche!! you got me I will try to be more clear next time, but you do realize OB could have stopped the transaction or at least allowed the US to drill as well as the loan, that was my original point.

Ruffy:
I guess, but they should probably complain to the correct office / part of location. The causality in your argument seems incorrect. The EX-IM bank does not make the decisions to limit drilling, nor to increase safety ratings of airplanes or what not. Blaming the EX-IM bank for these issues seems incorrect.

I think my point has been OB is at fault, however the EX-IM bank is still unconstitutional. Swampy

 

[swampwater]

[QUOTE=ruffryder;2751774]I think it was more about the reduction in certainty about renewable energy credits. Why would the EX-IM bank loan money for solar panels here???

Who said for here, just manufacture them here.

Ruffy
2. Internet is great isn't it?

It sure is now if it could tell me where I set my beer down it would be even greater.


Ruffy:
The quote was from Dan Simmons of the Institute of Energy Research, not the author of the article. I guess it would be an important issue, if the whole argument was based on it..


That quote is the summation of the article that was based on the information he provided in it. What is wrong with that? Yah it was an opinion based on the information that he gathered in the article... It is striking you don't see the difference here..
Why do you think Obama had anything to do with coming up with the idea to loan money to Brazil? You make it sound like it was his grand plan or something.. This isn't the Simpsons, he is not Mr. Burns...
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OPINIONS!! Swampy

 

[swampwater]

OK I'll bite, what juicy morsels do you have for me now, I have a few extra minutes. I went back and read your post. I must admit yes I agree with the statements so take your best shots Swampy

That is only half of it.
Here is an interesting link.
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0409a.asp
Some quotes from one of the founding fathers.. Madison

Quote:
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people.... [There is also an] inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and ... degeneracy of manners and of morals.... No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.

and another from Madison

Quote:
A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.

interesting quotes. Swampy, would you agree with their thoughts?

 

[swampwater]

Ruffy: You seemed to have lost your zeal for this issue. Swampy

OK I'll bite, what juicy morsels do you have for me now, I have a few extra minutes. I went back and read your post. I must admit yes I agree with the statements so take your best shots Swampy

That is only half of it.
Here is an interesting link.
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0409a.asp
Some quotes from one of the founding fathers.. Madison

Quote:
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people.... [There is also an] inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and ... degeneracy of manners and of morals.... No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.

and another from Madison

Quote:
A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.

interesting quotes. Swampy, would you agree with their thoughts?