since PJ here has the biggest issue, let's get him a orange vest with MC hall monitor on it so that he can start enforcing the "rules that don't exist." He can sport a nifty tape measurer to make sure everyone is within limit and equally
proportionate across the entire lot! You up for it
there PJ?
look I hate parking there to, main reason I only ride there once or twice a year (and it's usually after the most put their sleds away for the season). It's like
herding cats. YOU WILL NEVER GET THEM ALL LINED UP PERFECTLY! even if it were a pay lot, you would have the same results just that the yahoo's would feel more justified to park wherever as they just paid to do it. oh yea and to the a-hole who took a good size chunk out of my trailer last 2 weekends ago, thanks! helped with the gas mileage...bash on
Fixed it for ya!
If these rules don't exist, please feel free to call the USFS headquarters in Steamboat (970-879-1870) and speak with a representative. They will read you the same statute that they read to me. Without all of the legal mumbo-jumbo, it basically states that it is illegal to block, interrupt, barricade or inhibit any road, trail, drive or parking lot on USFS land. It is unlawful to interrupt the general use for the general public. One party CANNOT "save" a space for another party. Trust me on this one, I checked with the USFS.
Secondly I don't expect people to park "perfectly", I do expect people to park CORRECTLY, CONSIDERATELY and to use their head for something other than wearing a helmet. It's a load of crap that people take up 2 spaces just because they want a 5-10 window of space for their slide-out. Or a place to park sleds. Why don't they park their sled in that big trailer overnight instead of leaving them out, taking up space the next morning for the day trippers?
I know that it's not possible, but I'd love for the USFS to call me up and ask me to monitor the lots and issue citations. I'd hand out tickets left and right, after about a month, I'd bet that folks start parking logically.
PJ, this is beginning to sound more like a jealousy thing with people with RV's. You live up there, good for you. Those of us who don't want to drive 120 miles one way for one day shouldn't be crammed into the same category as those who don't know how to park. Half the problems there have been caused by the lot not being plowed correctly. That lot is too small. Also remember the Routt Powder riders paid for and built that lot not the forest service, so why should the FS collect a fee? Be careful who you are crying to, it can only hurt, not help.
Jealousy! That's funny! I can afford one, if I wanted one. For me, they are impractical. Yes, I live up here, but I ride with a lot of guys that don't and when they come up for more than one day, they camp/park responsibly. Bushmaster takes up almost no room with his set-up and the same goes with yammerhammer. The other guys have stayed at my house.
Yes, the lot is plowed incorrectly. That is CDOT's problem. They cannot do anything right up there. Ask Zoomie or Steamboat-RN. Yes, the lot is too small. So why would someone try to park a 60' RV with a 25-30' trailer. Trucks could barely squeeze between vehicles this weekend. Drivers actually had to have a spotter to make sure that their trailer didn't clip another rig. If the Routt Powder riders paid for that lot, then maybe they should collect a fee for use. I would GLADLY pay for day use. But since the lot is on USFS land, they by law, can enforce the usage and collect a fee.
Lastly, I am not crying as you so eloquently stated. I am merely bringing attention to a problem that has been ignored too long. I don't think that it's fair to day-trippers (local or from the Front Range) that when they arrive at the lot or lots, they find that there are no spaces to park because other peeps have started parking end to end or they have taken up more space than they actually need because they believe that since they are bigger, they are allowed more space. You are one of the last people that I thought would actually bash me. I thought you were above that. After all, I have NEVER bashed you.
These lots were such a cluster f*ck this weekend, people couldn't even drive around the loop in the MC lot. They had to stop and ask folks to move sleds. I would've hated to have been there during the day when almost everyone was out riding.
This thread was started to bring attention to a problem. Not start a bash-fest. So grow up and try to come up with answers to assist in ending these problems, not catchy little insults.
