Sorry i forgot the "t". I think you got the point.
more perspective of cost of illegal aliens
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Sorry i forgot the "t". I think you got the point.
I dont "support" illegal immigration. Im just not anti-illegal, anti-mexican. I understand that the problem is our very own government, not the illegals. I stand up for the poor, sick, and young.
I am not a lib or whatever you wanna stereotype me as. I think for myself and dont run with any "groups" or "political parties"
More violent than the us army? Have you seen the pictures from abu ghraib?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse
let me guess, its all right because they were terrorist muslims right?
If we are a government of laws, then why does our government break all the laws.
I would agree the government creates laws that violate the rights of the people but does allowing the illegals to also violate the rights of the citizens make it right. were talking effects on American Citizens not the government
The laws of a corrupt government mean nothing to me. I go buy the ten commandments, and what i know is right in my heart.
Again we are discussing the effects on the citizens who should be protected by the law not the government and if you go by the ten commandments you might have forgotten " Do not steal" if you believe these illegals have the right to bleed the legal citizens of the US dry, what do you call stealing? If I come to your house and force yopu to feed me cloth me and pay my medical bills without your permission is that not stealing?
So do two wrongs make a right? Swampy
Mr. Gullible
Mcfly, How gullible can you be? The economic structure in Mexico has pretty much all the wealth in a very small minority. They basically have the politicians bought off to see things their way. These people dont care about their OWN and while we fight about what shall be done with these people...amnesty,deportation, partial amnesty ect, these wealthy families laugh their arses off at people like you because you feel that it's your duty to help Juan and Jaunet find stability and happiness in the US. Why? How is it our problem? Shouldnt the Mexican politicians/elite clean up their act and TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN FOLKS?
Don't think for a minute that Mexico is a poor nation. They have a favorable growing climate, oil up the wazzoo,natural gas, minerals, I could go on and on. For the most part it's THEIR corruption, being lazy and incompetence that got US into this position.
Mexico has as their 3rd highest form of revenue in their country, money that is sent from the United States to Mexico via their working relatives in the states. How pathetic!
How do you stand on an illegal voting in this country? Is your stupid ars enlightened to fact that illegals voting have already affected certain congressional races here? Wake the f*ck up!
Mcfly, How gullible can you be? The economic structure in Mexico has pretty much all the wealth in a very small minority. They basically have the politicians bought off to see things their way. These people dont care about their OWN and while we fight about what shall be done with these people...amnesty,deportation, partial amnesty ect, these wealthy families laugh their arses off at people like you because you feel that it's your duty to help Juan and Jaunet find stability and happiness in the US. Why? How is it our problem? Shouldnt the Mexican politicians/elite clean up their act and TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN FOLKS?
Don't think for a minute that Mexico is a poor nation. They have a favorable growing climate, oil up the wazzoo,natural gas, minerals, I could go on and on. For the most part it's THEIR corruption, being lazy and incompetence that got US into this position.
Mexico has as their 3rd highest form of revenue in their country, money that is sent from the United States to Mexico via their working relatives in the states. How pathetic!
How do you stand on an illegal voting in this country? Is your stupid ars enlightened to fact that illegals voting have already affected certain congressional races here? Wake the f*ck up!
I see your point about the Mexican Government, very much like out own. Im just saying with all the money we are wasting in Iraq, we could help clean their government up after we take over ours.
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According to YOU we are wasting money in Iraq, I will repost this letter from one of my relatives that is over in Iraq on FAQ's that he gets:
What has been your Navy experience so far?
I have been with the Navy for nearly 18 years. My first experience was doing a one year internship at the Naval Medical Center in San Diego. After that, I spent 6 months training as an Undersea and Diving Medical Officer. I then spent a one year “tour” on the USS Kentucky (SSBN 737), a ballistic missile submarine, followed by a tour with the U.S. Navy Seals. I have traveled many places around the world. After that, I completed residency training to become an Emergency Medicine Physician. My first tour as an ER doctor was in Okinawa, Japan. After that, we moved to Indian Head, MD which is close to Washington D.C. and I worked with the US Marines CBIRF (Chemical Biological Incident Response Force), a special unit that responds to terrorist incidents using dangerous materials. We traveled around the nation working with “first responders”, like the Fire Department New York (FDNY), to develop better response equipment and techniques. In fact, we had trained with their special response unit 2 months prior to September 11, 2001. Many of those firemen who died that day were our friends. Our unit also responded to the anthrax incident at the US Capitol in October of 2001, and we worked there for the next 3 months doing various things. I also worked with the physician at the US Capitol to make sure they had the best equipment and techniques to respond to terrorist attacks against the US Congress or the Supreme Court. Before being deployed to Iraq I was working in the E.R. at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, MD.
If you had to do it all over again, would you?
YES!
In Iraq, how long do you work each day?
It depends on when and how many casualties come in. Some days, there are only minor problems and no major injuries. One day we had almost 80 Iraqis and marines come in from a nearby outpost. They had been attacked by Islamist insurgents with bombs and chlorine gas. Another day, the insurgents attacked the Iraqi people in the city of Fallujah with the same kind of attack, bombs and chlorine gas. We took care of the sickest patients at our base, including 7 kids. Later that night we took care of 5 Marines injured by a rocket propelled grenade, then 7 soldiers injured when their watch tower collapsed. Those were busy days.
What’s the weather like?
It’s a desert. Right now it’s between 90 – 110 degrees during the day, 80-90 degrees at night. It feels cooler than that because the humidity is so low. Yesterday, though, it actually rained. Sometimes, it is windy and very dusty with the dessert sand blowing over everything.
How many people do you work with?
60
What does the base look like?
The base is a rectangle 10 miles around. It is made of concrete walls and heavy gauge wire is strung around it with look out towers with armed soldiers. The base was used by the Iraqi military before we took it over, so the buildings are built as bunkers. The base has some date trees and pomegranate trees around it.
What does the terrain look like?
It is a desert with few trees. The days are typically sunny but the blowing sand can make it look foggy.
This area of the country is known as the “fertile crescent”. It is near where the Tigris River and the Euphrates River pass through Iraq, and has the oldest known civilization recorded. It is thought that the Garden of Eden is somewhere in Iraq. Also, Abraham from the Bible was born in Iraq, Noah built his ark in Iraq, and the mountain on which it landed is in northern Iraq. The disciple Thomas came through Iraq to tell people about Jesus Christ. This land has a rich history.
What does your room look like?
The size of my room is 10’ x 12’ - cement white.
Do you get to call home?
Yes. I call once a week. Also, we have access to e-mail and the Internet, although it can be sporadic.
Who do you treat at the Fallujah Surgical Hospital?
We treat anybody that comes to our door including injured U.S. Marines and soldiers, Iraqi police, Iraqi army, Iraqi civilians, and Iraqi insurgents. All are treated the same according to injury severity and without prejudice. You should know this means that an insurgent may be treated before an injured marine. Also, you should know that we often use a “walking blood bank”. If a patient needs blood replaced, we ask over a loudspeaker for the Marines on base to donate their blood right away. They walk up (sometimes drive up by the truckload) and donate a unit of blood (about 1 pint). This is quickly processed and then given directly to the patient within about 10 minutes after being donated. It doesn’t matter if the patient is a fellow Marine, an Iraqi policeman, or an insurgent, they still donate their blood willingly. There are many Iraqis and insurgents who have had their entire blood volume replaced with US Marines blood. Not many militaries fight this way.
How big is the community where the hospital is located?
The base has about 5,000 people. We all get along fine, and always carry our guns with us (unless we are out jogging). The city of Fallujah has about 200,000 people in it.
Mind you this isn't from some can fed segment on 60 minutes, this is from someone that is there in the flesh, day in and day out.
So why are the people of Mexico more deserving of our help than the people in Iraq?
FYI-
IF you...an educated white American CROSSED into Mexico "ILLEGALLY"...and the boarder patrol caught you...you would be SHOT on sight, robbed of what you had and (if your lucky) burried in a shallow grave...
NOW if you made it in...you have NO rights to ANY Gov. aid, you cant get an ID or drivers license, own property, start a business...NOTHING...even if you wanted to do it LEGALLY you cant...YOU are UNWANTED as a citizen of Mexico...
Granted- you have "some" solid statements that I believe...but then you steer far left with too much "emotion"...our Gov. sux (DUH)...unfortunatly theres 67 million Americans (?) that voted for more free **** IMHO...the 57 million that DIDNT vote for Hope and Change would be the ONES paying for all this CRAP...BJ
I know I'm nit-picking here..BUT you are DEAD wrong...case in point-
Here in Minnesota a young ILLEGAL woman was on her way to work (driving without a license) and blew a stop sign (hows STOP spelled in Mexican?? that sign obviously should be by-lingual) HIT a school bus and KILLED a dozen kids...
I think you would have a hard time convincing those families an ILLEGAL didnt take any "rights" away from them...BJ
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I guess Americans never accidentally run stop signs or make mistakes. What about all the children killed in Iraq by American weapons?
by taking away right and invading privacy, this is what i meant
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090711/ap_on_go_co/us_domestic_surveillance
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wikipedia, that is by far the most reliable source of information, he!! maybe dr. suess next? baahhaa, $h!t man Boulder county jail is more voilent then ahboobgrave prison
Yes I love it when peeps whose worst experience in life is dealing with a drunk customer or a school bully know everthing there is to know about the military and war. If 9-11 didn't give them a clue nothing will. Swampy
Yes I love it when peeps whose worst experience in life is dealing with a drunk customer or a school bully know everthing there is to know about the military and war. If 9-11 didn't give them a clue nothing will. Swampy
Just like Bush. When all else fails, use the 911 excuse. When anyone starts to oppose the war, just bring up 911. When people ask questions, 911.
That excuse worked ten years ago, but most people need a better reason nowadays.
