Mexicans to canada??
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Here's my point. Why are you just saying mexicans? What about natives? I think they are 1000x worse, taking taxpayers money for nothing, and all the special treatment they get 
Some mexicans might be like that, but what about whites, blacks or anything else doing the same thing? It's not just them. I see no difference in a illegal doing it, then a citizen, they are still milking taxpayers, and their color doesn't affect it either.
I knew some mexicans who worked at a greenhouse all summer to go back to mexico to support their families in the winter, they worked hard for very little, got treated like terrorists when there were going back and forth (they were locked in a room when they stopped in USA). All they were doing was coming here to make money to give their family a better life, and one day move them here. I can tell you right now when they got the money to get their family here they would NEVER take it for granted. They would keep working hard, because they knew how bad it was in mexico, and how easily they could end up back like that.
Some are good some are bad. Sure USA might have a lot of mexicans doing it, but Canada natives are the worst, and then probably white people!
My company gets temp workers. Most of them are alcoholics or whatever else and cannot hold a job. 90% of them are white. The odd mexican we've got worked hard as heck, and stook around for a very long time. Most of the white guys get a few days pay then are nowhere to be found. The odd some that stick around get so lazy we don't want them anymore. We've even stoped bothering because they are just lazy deadbeats.
My point is, around here a white person is a lot more likely to be a lazy taxpayer leech then a mexican.
I don't agree with the Spanish thing at all. But there is a lot worse things then that costing us taxpayers money.
Some mexicans might be like that, but what about whites, blacks or anything else doing the same thing? It's not just them. I see no difference in a illegal doing it, then a citizen, they are still milking taxpayers, and their color doesn't affect it either.
I knew some mexicans who worked at a greenhouse all summer to go back to mexico to support their families in the winter, they worked hard for very little, got treated like terrorists when there were going back and forth (they were locked in a room when they stopped in USA). All they were doing was coming here to make money to give their family a better life, and one day move them here. I can tell you right now when they got the money to get their family here they would NEVER take it for granted. They would keep working hard, because they knew how bad it was in mexico, and how easily they could end up back like that.
Some are good some are bad. Sure USA might have a lot of mexicans doing it, but Canada natives are the worst, and then probably white people!
My company gets temp workers. Most of them are alcoholics or whatever else and cannot hold a job. 90% of them are white. The odd mexican we've got worked hard as heck, and stook around for a very long time. Most of the white guys get a few days pay then are nowhere to be found. The odd some that stick around get so lazy we don't want them anymore. We've even stoped bothering because they are just lazy deadbeats.
My point is, around here a white person is a lot more likely to be a lazy taxpayer leech then a mexican.
I don't agree with the Spanish thing at all. But there is a lot worse things then that costing us taxpayers money.
1. Nope! Don't wish I could live in a trailer with 3 other families. I said I wish that someone would pay all of my bills for me.
2. You don't look in the right places. Try driving 30 minutes North. Plenty of em here.
3. Good! Let them go and don't let the door hit them in the azz on the way out! In fact, I'll drive em to the border.
4. I don't follow anyone nor do I let people control my beliefs. No hand upo my azz. Can't say that for the Libbys.
1. your are envious that illegals get welfare and you dont
2. Ive driven 30 minutes North. There is hardly anyone in Kremmling, mexican or American. That town is so small its like a pimple on my ***. I find it hard to believe there are that many illegals on welfare in a town that doesnt even have a Mcdonalds or a City Market. I never see anything but rednecks when i go 30 minutes north.
3. I know some mexicans that would love a free ride to the border.
4. It really seems like your views are exactly the same as Bush
Again, you pitiful little pothead, I am not envious.
There are 1400 some registered voters in Kremmling and probably double that with illegals. You don't know about them because you don't see it. I see it, my wife sees it and everybody elese sees. Talk about a blind eye, you have one or you are flat out lying. A quick stroll through Wal-Mart on a afternoon or a Weekend will prove it to ya. There are a few rednecks but nothing wrong with that, rednecks will stop and help anybody out if they broken down and on the side of the road. BTW, you need to shower more if you have pimples on your azz!
Also Summit County is full of Liberal azz clowns that do the bidding of the dark side. And I have had my views loooooooooooooooooooooong before either Bush was in the White House.Cyle, I am saying Mexican because that is the MAJORITY here in the US. Yes, there are Blacks, Asians, Whites (from many different countries) and even some Native Americans that milk the system but it is that one race that makes itself obvious. You don't see Chinese, Japanese, Korean, French, German, Russian or any other languages printed in directions, on atms, store signs or when you dial the phone you have to press 2 for Spanish. It is the illegal Mexicans that are prevalent.
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T-JERK: spent about 5 minutes and found some reason you and those canadians might want to re-think your positions. If I had time I could fill about 50 pages of posts, also federal governments prison population is now over 37% illegal alliens. Swampy
Min Soon Chang, a freshman from the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, was killed by drunk driving illegal alien Jorge Humberto Hernandez-Soto, who hit him while going 100 MPH the wrong way on the highway. Hernadez-Sot had been previously deported to his native Mexico 17 times. That is not a typo.
Cheryl Ceran, 47, and two of her children, 15-year-old Ian and 7-year-old Julianna were killed on Christmas Eve by drunk driving illegal alien Carlos Rodolfo Prieto, 24, who ran a red light and slammed into their car. Also injured in the crash were Cheryl Ceran's husband, Gary Ceran, 45, their daughter, Clarissa, 19, and a son, Caleb, 12. Prieto had at least two other drunken driving arrests and did not have a license.
Kelly Bergen, 25, a teacher, was crushed between two potato trucks, an accident caused by an illegal alien driving without a license or insurance.
Deputy Loren Lilly, an 18 year veteran of the Cobb County, GA, police department was killed Christmas Eve morning on his way to work when an illegal alien swerved into his lane. The driver, Joel Camacho Perea, faces charges of hit and run, failure to maintain lane and driving without a license.
Marine Corporal Brian Mathews, 21, and his girlfriend Jennifer Bower, 24, were killed by a drunk illegal alien Eduardo Raul Morales-Soriano who slammed into their car when it was stopped at a traffic light. Corporal Mathews was on leave, after just returning from duty in Iraq. Morales-Soriano had a blood-alcohol level that was four times the legal limit.
20 year old Natalie Housand was killed when illegal alien Jesus Garcia Lopez hit her car while going 100 MPH, driving drunk. Amazingly, after the head-on collision, Lopez fled the scene.
Donna and Sean Wilson of Juliet Tennessee, were killed by illegal alien Gustavo Reyes Garcia who had been, arrested 14 times in the previous five years prior to when he ran into and killed them, again driving while intoxicated. Garcia had previously been arrested 5 times on DUIs.
Tricia Ann Taylor, 17, lost both her legs above the knees when she was pinned against a wall by a drunken illegal alien with seventeen prior violations who hit her while drag racing.
Ryan Ostendorf, a 28 year old paramedic, who was also a Kansas University student and who dreamed of becoming a doctor, was killed by illegal alien Victor Anzua-Torresa who had ignored an order to receive treatment after his previous drunken-driving conviction. Anzua-Torresa had also been previously deported in 2000 and been arrested for several other offenses, including possession of drug paraphernalia.
5-year-old Felix Leon was killed in a hit and run accident by illegal alien Carlos Jaramillo.
James F. Rogers Jr., 18, of North Jackson, TN was killed by Luis Oscar Garcia, a Mexican who had been living in the U.S. without a green card for three years. Garcia ran a red light. In addition to the vehicular homicide and DUI charges, Garcia faces counts of driving without a license, registration or proof of insurance. When police did a check on his license plate, it did not come back under his name.
Joshua Morrow, 4, and his uncle, Ronald Bishop were killed by an illegal alien who left the scene of the accident.
Christopher Shackleford, 19, Julieanne Pascoe, 18, and Kelli Bourgeois, 18, were all killed in Marietta, Georgia, by an illegal alien drunk driver. He did not have a valid driver's license or insurance but did have a blood alcohol level at twice the legal limit.
Brandon Haley, 31, was killed while riding his bicycle in a hit and run by illegal alien Lazardo Lobaton.
The Marti family, pictured here during a happy moment that no longer exists. Sean, just 24 years old, and his daughter Sage, 5 months old, were killed by a drunk illegal alien who was driving the wrong way on Highway 84 in Idaho. Natalie Marti was in a coma for two weeks after the head-on crash, spent two months in the hospital, and has suffered brain damage from a traumatic head wound.
Chicago Police Officer Michael Gordon lost his life to a drunken illegal alien driver. Officer Gordon was in the driver's seat of his squad car when it was struck by Luis Calle, a Guatemalan, whose blood alcohol level was 0.177, twice the legal limit.
Helen Hughes, 22, Jennifer Carter, 18, and Hughes' stepbrother, 16-year-old Ben Leonard were all killed by an illegal alien, who allegedly was driving drunk, and already had a long record of crime in the United States.
22-year-old Amy Kortlang was killed by an illegal alien driving without a license and while drunk. The illegal alien driver had been previously deported, barely six months prior to causing the accident.
Oakland Police Officer Will Seuis was killed on his ride home by an illegal alien. A sixteen-year veteran of the Police Department, Officer Seuis was remembered at his funeral as a hard-working cop who had received 33 letters of appreciation from citizens, including one from a motorist he had ticketed. The illegal alien had a long history of traffic convictions.
Peggy Keller, dean of distance education at Yakima Valley Community College, was killed by a twice deported illegal alien who was driving under the influence of methamphetamines.
19 year old Travis Smith was killed when he was struck head-on by a vehicle driven by an illegal alien who was transporting four other illegal aliens to Pennsylvania.
Six year old Annie Cumpston was killed in a hit-and-run accident in downtown Baltimore by a truck driven by illegal alien Guillermo Diaz when it veered into the crosswalk as she and her family were leaving the circus. When Diaz was arrested, he did not have a driver's license, the tags on the truck were expired and his blood-alcohol level was 0.07 percent. Diaz had been in the United States illegally for four years doing construction work. He received 10 years in prison but is eligible for parole in just two years. This is an example of a horrific crime where all the easy to find references are gone but you can find the story at archived at CRIME VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS.
The above are only a small sampling. Be sure to see the links at the end of this section.
How bad is the problem getting? See: The Carnage of Unisured Motorists for a detailed report on the havoc caused by illegal alien drivers in an East Coast community and Numbers flabbergast legislators - Crashes, arrests highlight illegal immigration problem, lawmakers say where over a few days of bad weather in Colorado over 100 illegal aliens were in auto accidents or given traffic tickets.
A study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform estimated that in 2004 the annual uncompensated cost of medical care for illegal immigrants in California was $1.4 billion. Total uncompensated educational, health care and incarceration costs were estimated to be 10.5 billion.
Federal laws provide states incentives to provide Medicaid coverage to illegal immigrants. All state Medicaid programs offer an endless list of services, with some states, such as Florida, literally including the kitchen sink if home repairs and maintenance are needed. Only four states check for citizenship before awarding Medicaid. California escalated – in one year – from 450,000 illegal aliens on Medi-Cal (California's version of Medicaid) in 2002 to 750,000 in 2003.
Medi-Cal covers well-baby maternity care, delivery expenses and long-term care that are incurred for children born to illegal immigrants. Thus "anchor babies" become medical insurance policies.
Last week, a report in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons blew the whistle on the way illegal immigration is threatening to destroy America's prized health-care system
. "The influx of illegal aliens has serious hidden medical consequences," writes Madeleine Pelner Cosman, author of the report. "We judge reality primarily by what we see. But what we do not see can be more dangerous, more expensive, and more deadly than what is seen."
According to her study, 84 California hospitals are closing their doors as a direct result of the rising number of illegal aliens and their non-reimbursed tax on the system.
In addition, the report says, "many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American medicine fought and vanquished long ago, such as drug-resistant tuberculosis, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue, and Chagas disease."
The article goes on, "When crashes occur, it is not uncommon for Hispanic drivers – often intoxicated and unlicensed – to flee before troopers arrive. According to State Police records, about a third of accidents involving migrant workers are hit-and-run. State Trooper Koushel said migrants often cannot be conclusively identified when they're stopped for a violation or involved in an accident." "Many", he said, "are illegal aliens who carry fake or invalid driver's licenses". "Because of that", he said, "many fail to show up in court. It's almost like writing a ticket to a ghost."
For more information on the DUI problem, see Hispanics in crashes lead DWI stats.
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It's impossible to know when you just see them working. White people are far worse for abusing the health care system here then anyone else.
Far as i'm concerned if they are working hard, paying taxes, etc trying to make it here they deserve to be here just as much as anyone else, and more then a lot of lazy people here, who think they have rights to things just because they were born here
There is the good and bad in everything. I think the majority of them are good for the country.
the problem is if they are illegal they are not paying taxes they work for less cause they dont have taxes pulled and under the table the employer doesn't have to pay for unemployment or insurance on the little dirt bag so now there is incentive to hire illegals. i will keep every hard working self respecting man women and child that legally calls themselves an American. anyone else can go rape some one else for free money, try canada or france heard they are sympathetic to your cause, and this is not just minorities it applies to thieves, hippies, drug users/sellers, all of the low lives, used to be you could just shoot'em now we got the government handling it. and dont get me started on that , we are about to be as bad off as the french and canadians.
In Colorado 90% of the Mexicans are ILLEGAL! Yes, they work hard but they work for next to nothing, their women squirt out a couple of anchor babies and BINGO! They hit the welfare jackpot and get free medical, they get paid cash so taxes aren't taken out and they get WIC or food stamps for the kids that they have. Oh, and all that is paid by taxpaying people! Ironic that someone who doesn't pay taxes gets the benefits from taxes, eh? BTW, schools have to hire special teachers to teach the kids in Spanish so they don't have to learn that silly little English language!
Canada can have em!
EXACTLY!!!!
yes it does, pull your head out of your azz, in most other countries if caught there illegally they can kill you on a second offense, funny they dont have a problem. mexico i believe is one of these countries
yeah but just because there aren't in kremmling doesnt mean that pj isnt paying them on his STATE and FEDRAL taxes, dems are so blind. hold on i got a global warming thing you need to see, you can bring it up with other liberals and start a movement
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swamp- to be fair people are killed by drunks every year, but national stats say that 9125 of our sisters, brothers, fathers, mothers, friends and loved ones could still be alive
Sheriff Joe Arpaio and others have reported that 25 Americans die every day
at the hands of Mexican Illegals: 12 by directly intentional violent acts
and 13 by DUI.
so thats 9125 a year, 4745 b y dui a year
you can keep the illegals, i have several friends that are americans that came here leagally from mexico they work harder than anyone i know to be american cause they want to live the dream. they are the deffinition of america. i applaud these few, i spit on the ones that take our jobs without tax and send the money to another country, be it mexico or any other country, we also have a problem with illegal canadians, all i ask is that you respect the country so many of my friends have died to defend.
Sheriff Joe Arpaio and others have reported that 25 Americans die every day
at the hands of Mexican Illegals: 12 by directly intentional violent acts
and 13 by DUI.
so thats 9125 a year, 4745 b y dui a year
you can keep the illegals, i have several friends that are americans that came here leagally from mexico they work harder than anyone i know to be american cause they want to live the dream. they are the deffinition of america. i applaud these few, i spit on the ones that take our jobs without tax and send the money to another country, be it mexico or any other country, we also have a problem with illegal canadians, all i ask is that you respect the country so many of my friends have died to defend.
T-JERK: spent about 5 minutes and found some reason you and those canadians might want to re-think your positions. If I had time I could fill about 50 pages of posts, also federal governments prison population is now over 37% illegal alliens. Swampy
Min Soon Chang, a freshman from the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, was killed by drunk driving illegal alien Jorge Humberto Hernandez-Soto, who hit him while going 100 MPH the wrong way on the highway. Hernadez-Sot had been previously deported to his native Mexico 17 times. That is not a typo.
Cheryl Ceran, 47, and two of her children, 15-year-old Ian and 7-year-old Julianna were killed on Christmas Eve by drunk driving illegal alien Carlos Rodolfo Prieto, 24, who ran a red light and slammed into their car. Also injured in the crash were Cheryl Ceran's husband, Gary Ceran, 45, their daughter, Clarissa, 19, and a son, Caleb, 12. Prieto had at least two other drunken driving arrests and did not have a license.
Kelly Bergen, 25, a teacher, was crushed between two potato trucks, an accident caused by an illegal alien driving without a license or insurance.
Deputy Loren Lilly, an 18 year veteran of the Cobb County, GA, police department was killed Christmas Eve morning on his way to work when an illegal alien swerved into his lane. The driver, Joel Camacho Perea, faces charges of hit and run, failure to maintain lane and driving without a license.
Marine Corporal Brian Mathews, 21, and his girlfriend Jennifer Bower, 24, were killed by a drunk illegal alien Eduardo Raul Morales-Soriano who slammed into their car when it was stopped at a traffic light. Corporal Mathews was on leave, after just returning from duty in Iraq. Morales-Soriano had a blood-alcohol level that was four times the legal limit.
20 year old Natalie Housand was killed when illegal alien Jesus Garcia Lopez hit her car while going 100 MPH, driving drunk. Amazingly, after the head-on collision, Lopez fled the scene.
Donna and Sean Wilson of Juliet Tennessee, were killed by illegal alien Gustavo Reyes Garcia who had been, arrested 14 times in the previous five years prior to when he ran into and killed them, again driving while intoxicated. Garcia had previously been arrested 5 times on DUIs.
Tricia Ann Taylor, 17, lost both her legs above the knees when she was pinned against a wall by a drunken illegal alien with seventeen prior violations who hit her while drag racing.
Ryan Ostendorf, a 28 year old paramedic, who was also a Kansas University student and who dreamed of becoming a doctor, was killed by illegal alien Victor Anzua-Torresa who had ignored an order to receive treatment after his previous drunken-driving conviction. Anzua-Torresa had also been previously deported in 2000 and been arrested for several other offenses, including possession of drug paraphernalia.
5-year-old Felix Leon was killed in a hit and run accident by illegal alien Carlos Jaramillo.
James F. Rogers Jr., 18, of North Jackson, TN was killed by Luis Oscar Garcia, a Mexican who had been living in the U.S. without a green card for three years. Garcia ran a red light. In addition to the vehicular homicide and DUI charges, Garcia faces counts of driving without a license, registration or proof of insurance. When police did a check on his license plate, it did not come back under his name.
Joshua Morrow, 4, and his uncle, Ronald Bishop were killed by an illegal alien who left the scene of the accident.
Christopher Shackleford, 19, Julieanne Pascoe, 18, and Kelli Bourgeois, 18, were all killed in Marietta, Georgia, by an illegal alien drunk driver. He did not have a valid driver's license or insurance but did have a blood alcohol level at twice the legal limit.
Brandon Haley, 31, was killed while riding his bicycle in a hit and run by illegal alien Lazardo Lobaton.
The Marti family, pictured here during a happy moment that no longer exists. Sean, just 24 years old, and his daughter Sage, 5 months old, were killed by a drunk illegal alien who was driving the wrong way on Highway 84 in Idaho. Natalie Marti was in a coma for two weeks after the head-on crash, spent two months in the hospital, and has suffered brain damage from a traumatic head wound.
Chicago Police Officer Michael Gordon lost his life to a drunken illegal alien driver. Officer Gordon was in the driver's seat of his squad car when it was struck by Luis Calle, a Guatemalan, whose blood alcohol level was 0.177, twice the legal limit.
Helen Hughes, 22, Jennifer Carter, 18, and Hughes' stepbrother, 16-year-old Ben Leonard were all killed by an illegal alien, who allegedly was driving drunk, and already had a long record of crime in the United States.
22-year-old Amy Kortlang was killed by an illegal alien driving without a license and while drunk. The illegal alien driver had been previously deported, barely six months prior to causing the accident.
Oakland Police Officer Will Seuis was killed on his ride home by an illegal alien. A sixteen-year veteran of the Police Department, Officer Seuis was remembered at his funeral as a hard-working cop who had received 33 letters of appreciation from citizens, including one from a motorist he had ticketed. The illegal alien had a long history of traffic convictions.
Peggy Keller, dean of distance education at Yakima Valley Community College, was killed by a twice deported illegal alien who was driving under the influence of methamphetamines.
19 year old Travis Smith was killed when he was struck head-on by a vehicle driven by an illegal alien who was transporting four other illegal aliens to Pennsylvania.
Six year old Annie Cumpston was killed in a hit-and-run accident in downtown Baltimore by a truck driven by illegal alien Guillermo Diaz when it veered into the crosswalk as she and her family were leaving the circus. When Diaz was arrested, he did not have a driver's license, the tags on the truck were expired and his blood-alcohol level was 0.07 percent. Diaz had been in the United States illegally for four years doing construction work. He received 10 years in prison but is eligible for parole in just two years. This is an example of a horrific crime where all the easy to find references are gone but you can find the story at archived at CRIME VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS.
The above are only a small sampling. Be sure to see the links at the end of this section.
How bad is the problem getting? See: The Carnage of Unisured Motorists for a detailed report on the havoc caused by illegal alien drivers in an East Coast community and Numbers flabbergast legislators - Crashes, arrests highlight illegal immigration problem, lawmakers say where over a few days of bad weather in Colorado over 100 illegal aliens were in auto accidents or given traffic tickets.
A study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform estimated that in 2004 the annual uncompensated cost of medical care for illegal immigrants in California was $1.4 billion. Total uncompensated educational, health care and incarceration costs were estimated to be 10.5 billion.
Federal laws provide states incentives to provide Medicaid coverage to illegal immigrants. All state Medicaid programs offer an endless list of services, with some states, such as Florida, literally including the kitchen sink if home repairs and maintenance are needed. Only four states check for citizenship before awarding Medicaid. California escalated – in one year – from 450,000 illegal aliens on Medi-Cal (California's version of Medicaid) in 2002 to 750,000 in 2003.
Medi-Cal covers well-baby maternity care, delivery expenses and long-term care that are incurred for children born to illegal immigrants. Thus "anchor babies" become medical insurance policies.
Last week, a report in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons blew the whistle on the way illegal immigration is threatening to destroy America's prized health-care system
. "The influx of illegal aliens has serious hidden medical consequences," writes Madeleine Pelner Cosman, author of the report. "We judge reality primarily by what we see. But what we do not see can be more dangerous, more expensive, and more deadly than what is seen."
According to her study, 84 California hospitals are closing their doors as a direct result of the rising number of illegal aliens and their non-reimbursed tax on the system.
In addition, the report says, "many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American medicine fought and vanquished long ago, such as drug-resistant tuberculosis, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue, and Chagas disease."
The article goes on, "When crashes occur, it is not uncommon for Hispanic drivers – often intoxicated and unlicensed – to flee before troopers arrive. According to State Police records, about a third of accidents involving migrant workers are hit-and-run. State Trooper Koushel said migrants often cannot be conclusively identified when they're stopped for a violation or involved in an accident." "Many", he said, "are illegal aliens who carry fake or invalid driver's licenses". "Because of that", he said, "many fail to show up in court. It's almost like writing a ticket to a ghost."
For more information on the DUI problem, see Hispanics in crashes lead DWI stats.
hmmm...quite a few American tourist kill locals in these parts in accidents travelling from the Lower 48 to Alaska they are not usually drunk though,,,just in their eightys and driving these big motorhomes and falling asleep or can;t handle them...so is there a differance..???....
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And how many are hit and run? Can you post the actual statistics? We need to keep this apples for apples. Swampy
The study by the Highway Safety Research Center at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill was based on information from law enforcement agencies. It states that 7.04 percent of Hispanic drivers involved in crashes in 2005 were intoxicated, compared with 4.87 percent of Native Americans, 2.82 percent of whites and 2.28 percent of blacks.
Hispanics "are more likely on average to be suspected of drinking in crashes that police officers investigate," research center database specialist Eric Rodgman said.
"46% OF INDIVIDUALS CHARGED WITH DWI ARE LATINO ACCORDING TO STUDY OF TRAFFIC CHARGES IN DURHAM COURT
... Latinos are over represented among individuals charged with DWI in Durham. Latinos account for 7.6% of Durham's population, but account for a much greater percentage of those individuals charged with DWIs and other traffic offenses.
In Durham 44% (589) of individuals charged with a traffic offense are Latino and 40% (74) of all individuals charged with a DWI were Latino. (Based on the Coalition's sampling of data from the Durham Traffic Court dockets. A one week period (5 days) of Durham Traffic Court was selected at random from each of the last 3 months of 2004 and yielded a total sample of 1338 of individuals charged with traffic offences.)
In Durham 46% (253) of individuals charged with DWI are Latino. 99% (251) of Latinos charged with DWI were male, with an average age of 27 years old. (Based on the Coalition's examination of the Durham City Police Department's 2004 DWI Arrest Record which accounts for all the DWI arrests (801) from 1-1-04 to 12-31-04.)
"RALEIGH - County jails throughout North Carolina are stressed to the limit with illegal immigrants, law-enforcement officials say.
... Kevin Jastzabski, prison captain for the Lee County Sheriff's Department, said the number of Hispanics clogging the county's system is getting larger everyday. "We do have a problem, and it is going to keep on growing," he said "It doesn't look like it's going to slow down any time soon."
... It's not racial discrimination, as some have feared, but cultural differences that are putting most of the illegal immigrants behind bars.
The arrests are legitimate, Jones said, and arise mostly from drug trafficking or driving under the influence of alcohol in Alamance County. DUI is the number one killer of Hispanic males in the state, he said.
"There are cultural differences," he said. "They drink and drive. It's culturally acceptable for them to do that. When we bring them in, they are usually double the legal limit. But law-enforcement officers have been called racist and have been accused of singling out Hispanics. Now the statistics are showing we were probably right from the onset - law-enforcement-wise."
As noted in a December 2006 article by Jared Allen in the Nashville City Paper, Male Hispanics responsible for disproportionate number of fatal car crashes:
"As a percentage of Nashville's population, male Hispanics have been responsible for a greater percentage of fatal traffic accidents this year than any other demographic, police data show.
... While the U.S. Census bureau estimates that Hispanics made up approximately 6.3 percent of Nashville's population in 2004, police say they were responsible for 17 percent of the fatal car wrecks that have occurred so far in 2006.
... Since the summer, Nashville's Hispanic leaders have weathered a tempest caused by a number of deadly, high- profile accidents police say came at the hands of Latinos, three quarters of whom were allegedly drunk, and some who have been identified as illegal immigrants.
Over on the West Coast the problem persists but, interestingly, not at the same rate in one report. As noted in DUI's culture gap -Latinos in S.J. account for disproportionate amount of arrests:
"Approximately 2,000 Latino men like Mercado were arrested in Stockton between 2000 and 2004 on suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol. They accounted for at least 54 percent of all DUI arrests in Stockton, according to the Police Department, although Latinos make up just 35.3 percent of the city's population, based on the latest estimates from the California Department of Finance.
In 2004 alone, police arrested 4,242 people on DUI charges in San Joaquin County, according to the California Department of Justice. Latinos accounted for 46.8 percent of the arrests but only 33.1 percent of the county's population. In Stockton, 59 percent of the 883 DUI arrestees that year were Latino men, the highest percentage of any city in San Joaquin County."
This is only the beginning of stats I can post which show illegal aliens are a much higher risk than their percentage of population, and this does not even take into account the ones who run and are never caught to add to the stats.
More stats:hmmm...quite a few American tourist kill locals in these parts in accidents travelling from the Lower 48 to Alaska....
How many American children is it acceptable to have seriously injured, permanently maimed, and killed by grossly irresponsible illegal alien drivers to save ten cents on a head of lettuce?
Hispanic drivers involved in motor vehicle crashes are more likely to be intoxicated than members of other ethnic and racial groups, according to statistics compiled by state researchers.The study by the Highway Safety Research Center at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill was based on information from law enforcement agencies. It states that 7.04 percent of Hispanic drivers involved in crashes in 2005 were intoxicated, compared with 4.87 percent of Native Americans, 2.82 percent of whites and 2.28 percent of blacks.
Hispanics "are more likely on average to be suspected of drinking in crashes that police officers investigate," research center database specialist Eric Rodgman said.
"46% OF INDIVIDUALS CHARGED WITH DWI ARE LATINO ACCORDING TO STUDY OF TRAFFIC CHARGES IN DURHAM COURT
... Latinos are over represented among individuals charged with DWI in Durham. Latinos account for 7.6% of Durham's population, but account for a much greater percentage of those individuals charged with DWIs and other traffic offenses.
In Durham 44% (589) of individuals charged with a traffic offense are Latino and 40% (74) of all individuals charged with a DWI were Latino. (Based on the Coalition's sampling of data from the Durham Traffic Court dockets. A one week period (5 days) of Durham Traffic Court was selected at random from each of the last 3 months of 2004 and yielded a total sample of 1338 of individuals charged with traffic offences.)
In Durham 46% (253) of individuals charged with DWI are Latino. 99% (251) of Latinos charged with DWI were male, with an average age of 27 years old. (Based on the Coalition's examination of the Durham City Police Department's 2004 DWI Arrest Record which accounts for all the DWI arrests (801) from 1-1-04 to 12-31-04.)
"RALEIGH - County jails throughout North Carolina are stressed to the limit with illegal immigrants, law-enforcement officials say.
... Kevin Jastzabski, prison captain for the Lee County Sheriff's Department, said the number of Hispanics clogging the county's system is getting larger everyday. "We do have a problem, and it is going to keep on growing," he said "It doesn't look like it's going to slow down any time soon."
... It's not racial discrimination, as some have feared, but cultural differences that are putting most of the illegal immigrants behind bars.
The arrests are legitimate, Jones said, and arise mostly from drug trafficking or driving under the influence of alcohol in Alamance County. DUI is the number one killer of Hispanic males in the state, he said.
"There are cultural differences," he said. "They drink and drive. It's culturally acceptable for them to do that. When we bring them in, they are usually double the legal limit. But law-enforcement officers have been called racist and have been accused of singling out Hispanics. Now the statistics are showing we were probably right from the onset - law-enforcement-wise."
As noted in a December 2006 article by Jared Allen in the Nashville City Paper, Male Hispanics responsible for disproportionate number of fatal car crashes:
"As a percentage of Nashville's population, male Hispanics have been responsible for a greater percentage of fatal traffic accidents this year than any other demographic, police data show.
... While the U.S. Census bureau estimates that Hispanics made up approximately 6.3 percent of Nashville's population in 2004, police say they were responsible for 17 percent of the fatal car wrecks that have occurred so far in 2006.
... Since the summer, Nashville's Hispanic leaders have weathered a tempest caused by a number of deadly, high- profile accidents police say came at the hands of Latinos, three quarters of whom were allegedly drunk, and some who have been identified as illegal immigrants.
Over on the West Coast the problem persists but, interestingly, not at the same rate in one report. As noted in DUI's culture gap -Latinos in S.J. account for disproportionate amount of arrests:
"Approximately 2,000 Latino men like Mercado were arrested in Stockton between 2000 and 2004 on suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol. They accounted for at least 54 percent of all DUI arrests in Stockton, according to the Police Department, although Latinos make up just 35.3 percent of the city's population, based on the latest estimates from the California Department of Finance.
In 2004 alone, police arrested 4,242 people on DUI charges in San Joaquin County, according to the California Department of Justice. Latinos accounted for 46.8 percent of the arrests but only 33.1 percent of the county's population. In Stockton, 59 percent of the 883 DUI arrestees that year were Latino men, the highest percentage of any city in San Joaquin County."
This is only the beginning of stats I can post which show illegal aliens are a much higher risk than their percentage of population, and this does not even take into account the ones who run and are never caught to add to the stats.
And how many are hit and run? Can you post the actual statistics? We need to keep this apples for apples. Swampy
Probably one out of a hundred are hit and run..the other 99 are hit and snooze or hit and where am i because of alzhiemers.....
That IS funny!
What about the NFL player who just got out of less then 30 days in jail for killing someone driving drunk? It is complete BS they got what they did to. I don't think illegals should be here, what i'm saying is, some come here, pay taxes, work hard to try and make it, and THOSE are the ones I don't have a problem with.
Yes I hate the illegals, but in Canada as I said, indians are here legally and are draining taxpayers money non stop, and there is nothing we can even do about it. Many of them get like 50k when they turn 18, where do you think that money came from? And all they do is whine and cry they need more money. It's a lot like the mexican problem in US, but 100x worse.
I just think you cannot have such a blanket statement over all mexicans, many are good law abiding people, who pay taxes and such.
The one and only good way to prevent all these DUI deaths is a better legal system, death penatly for vehicular manslaughter would keep a lot of them off the streets.
Yes I hate the illegals, but in Canada as I said, indians are here legally and are draining taxpayers money non stop, and there is nothing we can even do about it. Many of them get like 50k when they turn 18, where do you think that money came from? And all they do is whine and cry they need more money. It's a lot like the mexican problem in US, but 100x worse.
I just think you cannot have such a blanket statement over all mexicans, many are good law abiding people, who pay taxes and such.
The one and only good way to prevent all these DUI deaths is a better legal system, death penatly for vehicular manslaughter would keep a lot of them off the streets.
What about the NFL player who just got out of less then 30 days in jail for killing someone driving drunk? It is complete BS they got what they did to. I don't think illegals should be here, what i'm saying is, some come here, pay taxes, work hard to try and make it, and THOSE are the ones I don't have a problem with.
If they work, pay taxes and don't drain the medical system, don't use or push drugs or cause carnage on the roads I don't have a problem either
Yes I hate the illegals, but in Canada as I said, indians are here legally and are draining taxpayers money non stop, and there is nothing we can even do about it. Many of them get like 50k when they turn 18, where do you think that money came from? And all they do is whine and cry they need more money. It's a lot like the mexican problem in US, but 100x worse.
If they are legal you should not have a problem simply with them taking their money, if you don't like the PC start electing people who will stop the practice, I don't think they are doing anything illeagal.
I just think you cannot have such a blanket statement over all mexicans, many are good law abiding people, who pay taxes and such.
I am not making a blank statement, I include only ILLEGAL aliens who are milking the system and ignoring the laws. Swampy
If they work, pay taxes and don't drain the medical system, don't use or push drugs or cause carnage on the roads I don't have a problem either
Yes I hate the illegals, but in Canada as I said, indians are here legally and are draining taxpayers money non stop, and there is nothing we can even do about it. Many of them get like 50k when they turn 18, where do you think that money came from? And all they do is whine and cry they need more money. It's a lot like the mexican problem in US, but 100x worse.
If they are legal you should not have a problem simply with them taking their money, if you don't like the PC start electing people who will stop the practice, I don't think they are doing anything illeagal.
I just think you cannot have such a blanket statement over all mexicans, many are good law abiding people, who pay taxes and such.
I am not making a blank statement, I include only ILLEGAL aliens who are milking the system and ignoring the laws. Swampy
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TurboGuy800
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I don't think illegals should be here said:
I saw this and remebered this thread so I snapped this pic. It's a little blurry, if you cant make it out it says "La Migra". It seems typical of the attitude of illegals around here cause I see this on alot of cars.
Canada, you can have all you want.
Canada, you can have all you want.
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catmandoo
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Here's my point. Why are you just saying mexicans? What about natives? I think they are 1000x worse, taking taxpayers money for nothing, and all the special treatment they get
Some mexicans might be like that, but what about whites, blacks or anything else doing the same thing? It's not just them. I see no difference in a illegal doing it, then a citizen, they are still milking taxpayers, and their color doesn't affect it either.
I knew some mexicans who worked at a greenhouse all summer to go back to mexico to support their families in the winter, they worked hard for very little, got treated like terrorists when there were going back and forth (they were locked in a room when they stopped in USA). All they were doing was coming here to make money to give their family a better life, and one day move them here. I can tell you right now when they got the money to get their family here they would NEVER take it for granted. They would keep working hard, because they knew how bad it was in mexico, and how easily they could end up back like that.
Some are good some are bad. Sure USA might have a lot of mexicans doing it, but Canada natives are the worst, and then probably white people!
My company gets temp workers. Most of them are alcoholics or whatever else and cannot hold a job. 90% of them are white. The odd mexican we've got worked hard as heck, and stook around for a very long time. Most of the white guys get a few days pay then are nowhere to be found. The odd some that stick around get so lazy we don't want them anymore. We've even stoped bothering because they are just lazy deadbeats.
My point is, around here a white person is a lot more likely to be a lazy taxpayer leech then a mexican.
I don't agree with the Spanish thing at all. But there is a lot worse things then that costing us taxpayers money.
Very well said!
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Nikolai
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They just had a story printed in the local paper saying over 60% of all deported Mexican immigrants have criminal records. Ship the fawkers back or to Canada. They steal work, don't pay taxes, get free health care, collect welfare, kill innocent people, smuggle drugs, steal peoples identities, and in the end still hate America and hold Mexican rallies.
At least being a 23 year old single white male I'm in the highest tax bracket so I can support the scum of the earth. It's a good feeling every morning. Sometimes I feel like buying a semi truck and collecting them myself. I'll take em back on my own dime.
At least being a 23 year old single white male I'm in the highest tax bracket so I can support the scum of the earth. It's a good feeling every morning. Sometimes I feel like buying a semi truck and collecting them myself. I'll take em back on my own dime.
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catmandoo
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I fully understand the bitterness that some of you US people have regarding Mexicans and if we had the problem that you all have with your southern boarders we would surely feel the same. So we usually only get the ones willing to work to go through the trouble of getting up here. Trust me I was in HR for 6 years and hired people form all over the world and it was very hard to bring in a Mexican compared to a Philippine or east Indian.
But why do you have so many problems with so many illegal aliens? Your Government or ???
We have problems with like others have said with Indians sucking every tax dollar we have and what is left over is fed to Quebec to the French. That is the fault of our past and present governments but what do we do about fixing it??? Nothing just like the US does with its Mex problems. Where will be in 20 years from now with these problems??
But why do you have so many problems with so many illegal aliens? Your Government or ???
We have problems with like others have said with Indians sucking every tax dollar we have and what is left over is fed to Quebec to the French. That is the fault of our past and present governments but what do we do about fixing it??? Nothing just like the US does with its Mex problems. Where will be in 20 years from now with these problems??
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