Ya you all suck!! must be nice to just drive up the little hill and find tons of snow, we flat landers have a 20hr drive or 3hr flight to get to the Mesa. But i must say it is well worth the time. I glad to hear that you are all making good friends with Mark at Thunder Mountain Lodge, he is a great guy and is going to make TML a premier destination point for sledders!! If there is anyone that can do it he will. We cheese heads need a little more info on the chainsaw issue though??? (Mark???)