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Mavrick gas in my 1200 turbo @ 14#s

Shane wouldnt that be the same as Torco? I use to run it in our race planes when we couldnt get race fuel.
Doing the math to run 105 octain it cost about 7.50 a gal mixed with premium. If I did my math correct?
One of my concerns is the quality of pump gas, you dont have any concerns about that?

http://torcoracefuel.net/pro-accelerator.html
 
I rode with shane on monday at guardmans he was running 91 from sinclair with some boost juice and at 14#'s of boost he climbed some narly shoots it was impressive his sled ran amazing!!!!
 
Shain do you dare tell people that Octane Supreme at 3oz per gallon is ok to run at 14lbs of boost in all sled's? The company that makes boost juice or octane supreme which is it's real name say's 3oz's per gallon only makes 98 octane fuel is not reccomended for the boost levels that you are recommending or compression ratios above 10.5 to 1. They reccomend 16oz of octane supreme per gallon for this boost levels and compression ratio of 10.5 to 1. This will cost $5.50 per gallon plus the cost of 91 octane fuel and will cost the customer an average of $8.70 per gallon to have a safe octane level of 105. If you are running 99 octane fuel with boost juice or as it is really called octane supreme 130 AV fuel is a cheaper option at a 100 octane and the quality of the 91 octane fuel is not in question that you are mixing the octane supreme to make 99 octane fuel with.
 
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nope I dont tell them to run anything but propane:face-icon-small-hap
I ran my 1200 at 14 #s with mavrick 91 and 3.5 oz per gal. it was fine, I ran it at 14#s at 3 oz per galon and it was showing signs of deto so I turned it down to 12# and it was fine. It sure is a lot nicer to haul a quart of that around than it is to haul 55 gal drum or a 100 gal fill tank.:face-icon-small-win
 
One thing, for those of us that are an hour plus to race fuel & have no desire to buy a drum, this may not be the cheapest way to get to the octane levels that we need, but the ability to get it more easily & carry it more easily makes a big difference.

For you guys that can pull up to a pump & have sunoco blue for $6.50 a gal, this may not be a big deal, but it's pretty handy for some of us.

Me, I have to take off work early, then drive an hour round trip the other direction from work to go get race gas... 6.80/gal becomes quite a bit more when I figure in time & diesel to get there. (just did the math, it costs me about 11.57/gal when I get 20 gal at a time)


It's not always apples to apples.

(I'd still rather run propane though:face-icon-small-win, but have NO idea where I would find "automotive" propane either...)
 
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Update Rode sat in revy pulled the monster,the mile, swenny street,and the 90, ran the 1200 at 9 lbs with 3 0z pre gal witch seems to be the same as 50/50 it was making more power than is has all year at 14#s anyone that was there can tell you it was on fire no signs of deto at all. I would have turned it up but I couldnt hang on to where it was at.
Trav we should go compair your 12 at 20#s to mine at 9#s:face-icon-small-coo
 
If your sled is faster a 9lbs than it was at 14lbs I would not brag about it you have some serious tuning and turbo sizing issues. Turn yours up to 20lbs and lets play, damn I forgot you said at the shootout you can't get your 1200 to run if the boost is above 14lbs.
 
I wont need to turn it to 20 to play thats my hole point. If you have to turn yours to 20 to beat me by a lenght at 14 its you that has size issue.
 
I did not say it makes more power at 9 then 14 I said it will run with travis at 9 #s at 14 it is insane no need to go to 20, but I have it running good there too.
 
sounds like shain found the threshhold of the octane vs. boost level (Cyl. pressure). If i had a dime for every ricky racer that had his 10.1 compression small block chevy on my dyno and shows up with c12 and wonders why it runs like $hit. then i quickly put 87 pump in it ....and like magic the afrs come in and it makes 40 more hp :face-icon-small-con...the fact is race gas burns slow and cold when the demand isnt there, chamber temp and flame travel have eveything to do with making max power. im not saying that everyone should go out and run 14 on 91 im just sure that at over 8000 feet you can easily run 10 pounds on pump.... 08 m8 on 10 pounds about 2000 miles this year and nothing but maverick 91. Listen to this video,,crisp crisp crisp....and egts are around 1100.....afr said it sould have blown up years ago.. http://www.youtube.com/user/b1dodge#p/a/u/2/kxCwx-As1dk
 
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Pure Logic Tuning said:
Shain do you dare tell people that Octane Supreme at 3oz per gallon is ok to run at 14lbs of boost in all sled's? The company that makes boost juice or octane supreme which is it's real name say's 3oz's per gallon only makes 98 octane fuel is not reccomended for the boost levels that you are recommending or compression ratios above 10.5 to 1. They reccomend 16oz of octane supreme per gallon for this boost levels and compression ratio of 10.5 to 1. This will cost $5.50 per gallon plus the cost of 91 octane fuel and will cost the customer an average of $8.70 per gallon to have a safe octane level of 105. If you are running 99 octane fuel with boost juice or as it is really called octane supreme 130 AV fuel is a cheaper option at a 100 octane and the quality of the 91 octane fuel is not in question that you are mixing the octane supreme to make 99 octane fuel with.
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I work for a manufacture and can let you in on something that is not so secret....manufactures print and push instructions and recommendations to protect themselves and stay out of court....its the american way:face-icon-small-coo

Fun Fact: some turbo builders push a sled to its pull potential and let it burn down point is in different configurations, this gives the builder "real world" knowledge of "what it" and "what is not"....while others talk like a used car salesman on the phone and dont stand behind a product they sold me
 
octane v. comp. ratio

it's nice to see some guys that understand the combustion process in piston driven engines. i always laugh when guys say there going to put race gas in their stock CR500 at 9.0-1 comp. ratio or a stock banshee and think it will run better.when in reality, especially at higher elevations they should use 87 octane with proper jetting. they just dont understand that without the comp. ratio to support the EXTRA octane levels in the fuel the bike will just run like crap. you have to have a clean, complete burn in order for the fuel to make optimal power.
 
So if I understand this, b1dodge is running premium at 10lbs boost and having great success. So even if I dropped the boost to 9, why would I need to add this additive at 9lbs?
I get the theory that to much race gas doesnt make as much power under certain condition.
This juice stuff what is it compared to in race gas octain? c12,14,16 100ll... or should I say equivalant?
 
what im saying is yes im running 9-10 pounds above 8k feet. now lets make something clear before i get lynched for blowing everyones $hit up. there are many variables like ELEVATION, static and cranking compression. i ran up to 12 pounds on the 4000 miles top end because the static was about 15lbs off of what it should be. since then i put a new top end on it and now the boost is turned down to 8-9-10. engine temp has alot to do with octane need. my sled never runs more than 130f and in the deep runs 110f ...no one ever talks about engine heat and the effects it has on deto. IT HAS A BUNCH TO DO WITH IT!!!! cool engine warm combustion = big power and less chance of the death knock. as far as the additive that shane is running he is running it for 1... riding lower elevations.....2 has more static compression with that big a$$ bore 1200 and is making piles more hp than me...hp = HEAT. please guys dont try it on a 2010 m8 with the stock head....it will go boom. 5lbs is the limit on pump IMO.
 
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