m8 vs xp, and how to get a sled unstuck off a hill. lol

[aksnopro]

2010 m8 153 sno pro, summit 146 rev 800. (not sure on year) probably close to same footprint with there wider track.

a guy on an xp challenged me, i said sure lets linem up and pointem up hill.

this is on a very steep alaskan mountain

when i turn the camera on i already had looked at him we both nodded and he pinned it, i pinned it turned the camera on with one hand off the bars and thats where the video starts.


http://www.vholdr.com/node/78315

and heres a little cornice jump

http://www.vholdr.com/video/honeyhole2

all in all a great day.

-Aksnopro

 

[Shelfrost]

this is on a very steep alaskan mountain

Sorry, it looks cool and all, but why are there at least 4 of you on the same mountain face and turning out above a stuck sled? Remember sledding etiquette and avalanche training!?!?!? You guys are putting yourselves and others in harm's way. Please ride safe and smart!!!!

 

[aksnopro]

there wasnt even a small avalanche all day, just wasnt in the snow conditions.

i ride with a avalung, a beacon and a BCA backpack just in case but my group is by no means "stuped" there were still 6 guys watching everyone else ride.

i actually own 3 beacons my self for other people.

i appriciate your concern and push for more awareness but dood watch the video again and look at the snow where he is stuck.... it wouldnt have avalanched with a cannon ball shot.

-Aksnopro

 

[Scott]

Cool climb and cool vid and all....I went and looked at the Vholdr website too.

BUT, yeah, I see where shelfrost is coming from.

 

[skibreeze]

Dood is spelled dude. Dude, just because you think that the slope is safe, it is still not smart to have 5 guys on a slope at the same time. Avalanche safety is about habits, good and bad. 5 people on the slope is a bad habit to get into.

 

[aksnopro]

omg i dont know whats worse the fact you guys talk trash about our groups avalanche saftey when there isnt even close to a danger that day in those conditions. or the fact that theres a spelling teacher on snowest forums.

im about done with this site.

in the last 6 years i have around 10k miles of snowmachining in 90 percent mountains. its the only place i like to ride and these mountains are a 5 minute snowmachine ride from my house.

i appriciate your concern but honestly you guys must be flatlanders that ride the mountains 4 times a year. LOOK at the dirt the stuck guy kicked up and the compaction and settlement of the snow were not even sinking in the snow 2" with our tracks most the climb up...

ride like you ride and sit there and think im being ignorant i would never carve above a buddy in avalanche conditions, i read the mountain and avalanche forcast every morning and test the snow and slopes we ride on prior, the first marks up on the mountain we did go one at a time. before we really felt out the conditions.

if your not confident in reading snow conditions i would say yes dont ever run up the hill over a buddy. or climb seperate!

i can even show you my first pull second poll and third pull up the mountain with nobody else on it yet via helmet cam if it will make you not talk trash, unfortunatly that wasnt when i raced the XP!

-Aksnopro

 

[Powderhound]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySWnOTOp_zE

Oh look his print wasnt going down two inches either... I am not judging simply showing that and Avy can rear its ugly head at anytime.

However I dont care what conditions are you NEVER !!!!! carve over the top of someone NEVER

To clarify ... I am no flatlander either

 

[Scott]

aksnopro, I don't think anyone is trying to smack talk at all. I think everyone is still interested in the climbing vids and having fun on the snow.

People are avy sensitive right now. And rightly so.
Remember that just two weeks ago 200 people were hit the by the Turbo Hill avy at Revelstoke because someone reportedly highmarked a stuck sledder.
It's just that so many people have seen so many avys, injuries and death...especially in the last couple weeks, everyone is a little "avy sensitive" right now.

 

[skibreeze]

The biggest avy I ever set off was on hero snow, it also broke loose after the hill had been ridden several times, so just because somebody else went up first does not mean it's safe. It also ended up breaking all the way to the ground.

I don't mind mistyped words, but lack of proper writing skills just makes people look like ignorant hillbillies.

 

[aksnopro]

The biggest avy I ever set off was on hero snow, it also broke loose after the hill had been ridden several times, so just because somebody else went up first does not mean it's safe. It also ended up breaking all the way to the ground.

I don't mind mistyped words, but lack of proper writing skills just makes people look like ignorant hillbillies.

quit life, if you have nothing better to do then to judge people based on there typing then you have no life.

i dont even think its worth my time to change a mispelled word if i think whoever reading it can "get the point"

and a ignorant hillbilly blaha ahahaha. id rather be that then a spellchecking snowest forum finger pointer.

or wait maybe i should go to sunday school that way i dont look like an ignorant hillbilly on snowest forums...

not all of us are grad school preps.

really? i mean really?

lol...

and as far as the avalanche saftey goes, i agree. im not going to argue with people trying to make me make safter decisions. however i garantee you that mountain will not avalanche again for the rest of the year, it will melt off.

the ignorant hillbilly out
-Aksnopro

 

[snowmobiler]

its funny when newbs keep on gasin it when there stuck like that.like its gunna take off and go uphill

 

[aksnopro]

its funny when newbs keep on gasin it when there stuck like that.like its gunna take off and go uphill

funny ha, especially when you get the guys thats like "im not rolling it man" my causin didnt say that this time but you get that guy now and then thats sled is too pretty to roll lol.

lol..

 

[sp_20022006]

Nice vids, That mountain looks like a lot of fun !

 

[Leaf27]

You are so wrong about Shelfrost, he is the Team Leader of Search and Rescue up here in Chetwynd,BC. He has had the unfortunate task of recovering MANY victoms from avalanches. Instead of getting all pissed and lashing out, take the god damn advice from people that know what there talking about. All the riders with less experience will watch your little vid and think it's safe to do what you and your riding buddies did, is that responsible as an experienced sledder and self proclaimed expert on Avi's?

 

[sumX08az]

stock M8 out-running stock XP uphill? Haven't seen it yet.

 

[aksnopro]

You are so wrong about Shelfrost, he is the Team Leader of Search and Rescue up here in Chetwynd,BC. He has had the unfortunate task of recovering MANY victoms from avalanches. Instead of getting all pissed and lashing out, take the god damn advice from people that know what there talking about. All the riders with less experience will watch your little vid and think it's safe to do what you and your riding buddies did, is that responsible as an experienced sledder and self proclaimed expert on Avi's?

dood did you really read the rest of my posts or just ramble on after the first one you read. i said im not arguing about someone trying to make me make safer deicisions. now the trash talking keyboard warrior hillbilly comments coulda stayed to themselves.

but yeah, how come i post this on 2 other sites and this is the only one that an arguement starts?

probably because snowest is like the freaking soap opera of forums and im about done with this site.

grats on running another guy off.

-Aksnopro

 

[Drifter]

dood you really dont know anything about snow conditions if you watch where the guy is stuck you will see its not avalanchy snow at all.

there wasnt even a small avalanche all day, just wasnt in the snow conditions.

i ride with a avalung, a beacon and a BCA backpack just in case but my group is by no means "stuped" there were still 6 guys watching everyone else ride.

i actually own 3 beacons my self for other people.

i appriciate your concern and push for more awareness but dood watch the video again and look at the snow where he is stuck.... it wouldnt have avalanched with a cannon ball shot.

-Aksnopro

Butt hurt? I think so.

 

[Shelfrost]

I wasn't trying to argue with you, just create a greater awareness. I am by no means a flatlander. I've ridden snowmobiles in the moountains probably longer than you've been around. Definately before beacons and avalanche gear was available. I've caused, been in and rescued from .....many avalanches. I'm older and hopefully somewhat smarter now. I also put on avalanche awareness presentations. Just trying to pass on some wisdom to my friends on this forum. Won't you be my friend??!?!?!?! Just hoping you'll take my words into consideration. We don't need any more bad publicity or deaths this year.

 

[alford]

i gave up on telling people not to high mark big hills , above there friends , while there friends are stuck on the hill , or at the same time as there buddies are climbing. everytime i have said something about it i was treated like an idiot or told that it was safe and that it wouldn't slide. After digging 3 people out of various slides and seeing a couple of dead bodies i just stay away from huge climbs with various guys highmarking at the same time.

 

[0007]

dood did you really read the rest of my posts or just ramble on after the first one you read. i said im not arguing about someone trying to make me make safer deicisions. now the trash talking keyboard warrior hillbilly comments coulda stayed to themselves.

but yeah, how come i post this on 2 other sites and this is the only one that an arguement starts?

probably because snowest is like the freaking soap opera of forums and im about done with this site.

grats on running another guy off.

-Aksnopro

Thou dost protest too much
If I see someone point an UN loaded gun at me i give them ****e
It's not OK to do "Sometimes" and it's not OK for me to do it cuz I "made sure"
Its simple, you just dont do it
There's a 99% chance the hill was safe, but I bet nearly every mountain sledder says the same thing when they see the vid, are all of us wrong?