M8 - Looser in Deep Powder Challenge

[Steelhead Slayer]

I just wanted to say that it tickles me pink to see the M8 come in just about dead last (in the 2 stroke class) in this years Snow West's Deep Powder Challenge. Almost all the guys I ride with are die hard M7, M8 and M1000 riders. Great riders and great guys, but this is gonna be damb funny none the less. I don't even have to say anything because I know they will all be reading this article! The M8 sucked bad last year too!!! I love it!!!

I do wish they would have had a 163 X at this test. Quite frankly I am very impressed with how well the 146 everest proformed. The Ski-Doo dealer in the article said that his clutching set up was only to take out all weight out of the pins. Anyone try this? I thought most people were having better luck adding weight. His sleds dominated the contest so it must work.

 

[slyrydr]

unfortunately the cat dealer elected to run the tracks backwards...he gambled that the snow would be more set-up, it wasn't and he and cat paid the price....if the track would have been in the position cat delivered it in, both the 8 and the 1000 would have fared much better....no doubt the xp would still have done well, but i own both the 163 xp and the 162 1000, and there's no doubt the 1000 does better than the review in snowest, with a y-pipe and can and a little clutch work (you know that stuff that the xp owners spent the first two months sorting out) the 1000 is faster and climbs better than my xp

 

[Steelhead Slayer]

You don't have to convince me that these sled work well, I have seen them in action. But stock for stock ......M8 dead last! I wished the cats would have had the tracks on normal to see the difference. I am sure it would have helped.

 

[NickH440]

It's kinda funny, but there we're local snow drags this weekend, a bout 6 inches of fresh on a field. the guy with the m8 never won a race went 0-10...it was a XP showdown in the final's, I won the prize agaianst another 146.

 

[high time]

Congrats to the Doo! from a Cat man.

I'm glad some of you know that the dealer who chose to run the Cat's track backwards, made them into trenchers. The old Attack-20 in the powder position would have probably been perfect. But there is no dout that Doo's light weight is the key to their winning. Don't expect many Cat people to run out and buy Doo unless there's a new 800.

Owen

 

[fassteddie]

stock for stock. xp,D8,D7. dont have to turn there tracks around for every sno condition. and how about the sno retention (50lbs). i would rather be riding than swaping tracks around. weight to h.p.= fun factor.

 

[Ace Freely]

Why didn't the dealer flip them around after day 1? Was this not allowed? Or is this only an excuse to fall back on?


Ace

 

[jrddillon]

unfortunately the cat dealer elected to run the tracks backwards...he gambled that the snow would be more set-up, it wasn't and he and cat paid the price....if the track would have been in the position cat delivered it in, both the 8 and the 1000 would have fared much better....no doubt the xp would still have done well, but i own both the 163 xp and the 162 1000, and there's no doubt the 1000 does better than the review in snowest, with a y-pipe and can and a little clutch work (you know that stuff that the xp owners spent the first two months sorting out) the 1000 is faster and climbs better than my xp

my stock xp146x out climbed my two friends 07 modded out m1000s, when I saw that both m1000s tracks were backwards, I asked why ,they said it came that way,is that for braking or safty reasons? Should they be switched?

 

[iluv2fly]

The new 09 cat power claw track will be a huge benefit for the cat sleds. They have needed a new track for awhile.

 

[lucky13]

I'm glad some of you know that the dealer who chose to run the Cat's track backwards, made them into trenchers. The old Attack-20 in the powder position would have probably been perfect. But there is no dout that Doo's light weight is the key to their winning. Don't expect many Cat people to run out and buy Doo unless there's a new 800.

Owen

this is about as typical as it gets, call it the excuse list. in your case ill bet you have a whole book. most of us that ride doo have our reasons and the last thing we care about is trying to convince anybody to buy one. someday youll buy a new cat, if its in the twin spar you will know why we like doo, you will then own a cat in a 2004 rev version

 

[high time]

Why you pickin' on me?

I've won races based on another's screw ups. I know a win is a win. I thought I gave credit where credit was due.
Also, why would you care if I ride an old sled? I can't remember getting beat by any sled let alone a XP or a M-1000. Can't I ride what I like?
On April 12th I run Hill Drags against two turbo sleds, I'll let you know if I lose.
Long live the King.

Owen

 

[lucky13]

you have missed the whole point, i dont care what you ride, its your a/c biased bs, do you really think that non of us have freinds with cats, that ride with us and have freinds that have cats also. i know what the m's are and i know what the kings are i also know what they arent!! what is sad about you is you seem to know your stuff, but in most cases would rather start some bs thread about how bad doo is and how great cat is, and about you riding an old sled all im saying is that you are so biased cat, even if you knew another brand was a better sled you still wouldnt buy it, thus when cat puts there mountain machines in the twin spar chassis you will understand what doo is all about and will be able to say its all about the pride. and when they do go to twin spar ill be first in line to ride one. to date yamaha is the only other maker that has offered a true rider forward sled in the mountain segment, i own one and the xp there not for everyone but anything less to me is unacceptible. i cant speak for all the doo riders but to me its the ride quality and the way they handle, stomping the crap out of 95 percent of whats on the mountain is just a bonus

 

[Slick]

LMAO, hard. "Stompin the Crap" out of 95 % on the mountain ?????
Light up another big gagger there Lucky, you've got to be kidding.

See, heres the problem, you fellas whine that some of us are bashing your choice of ride, namely XP. Well do some of you think that there aren't any XP's where the rest of us ride. Our buddies got the same sleds, some modified, some not, some good tuners , some not, so we ain't bashing, just observing. And in real life not on the net ! Calling BS on a statement like the above, ain't bashing, its not your sled I'm doubting, its your inflated opinion of your sled.

 

[lucky13]

i knew the great slick couldnt be far behind, the all knowing master of nothing but bs. the net is the only place i think you are capeable of riding, your observations are done from your keyboard, and as always you add nothing, i would also venture to say that you have been to sturgis, bikes on the trailer behind the motorhome

 

[Slick]

i knew the great slick couldnt be far behind, the all knowing master of nothing but bs. the net is the only place i think you are capeable of riding, your observations are done from your keyboard, and as always you add nothing, i would also venture to say that you have been to sturgis, bikes on the trailer behind the motorhome

See now, thats my point. There you go BASHING something that you know nothing about. For instance; I know you don't know what sleds I ride.....I know you don't know how I ride or where,....You don't know if I have a trailer......You don't know if I have a motorhome......but you come on here like a defensive little puppy and smartass back at a comment I made trying to give you some respect, but not agreeing with you. What a tit.
Why don't you defend your dum-a$$ 95 % suggestion instead of attacking anyone who disputes it.
As I said before, for those who can comprehend, as in ,Not Lucky, theres a difference between bashing a sled and bashing overly optimistic unreasonable comments.
So go ahead you whiny Tit, come back with another immature adolescent comment, like normal.

 

[lucky13]

See now, thats my point. There you go BASHING something that you know nothing about. For instance; I know you don't know what sleds I ride.....I know you don't know how I ride or where,....You don't know if I have a trailer......You don't know if I have a motorhome......but you come on here like a defensive little puppy and smartass back at a comment I made trying to give you some respect, but not agreeing with you. What a tit.
Why don't you defend your dum-a$$ 95 % suggestion instead of attacking anyone who disputes it.
As I said before, for those who can comprehend, as in ,Not Lucky, theres a difference between bashing a sled and bashing overly optimistic unreasonable comments.
So go ahead you whiny Tit, come back with another immature adolescent comment, like normal.

ok slick offer some intelligent usefull non bashing coment on anything snowmobile, you have not given me any reason to show you any respect, all i have seen from you is why the xp is junk, almost to the point that i think you have a reason. are you are a dealer for another brand, sell aftermarket parts [non doo] ect. ?

 

[concreteman]

Ski-doo, Polaris, Arctic cat

Ok first off let me start by saying slick you are a complete freaking donk,dork,putz,fool,fact is that if you ride any sled high enough and hard enough they will all blow up at some point. Brand loyality is a waste of time and energy in my oponion, the only brand left for me to blow up is cat. But I have towed out more cats than any other sled so I don't think I'll be buying one any time soon. Not that all cats have problems any sled that is ridden hard enough for long enough you will have some sort of problem. Maybe instead of bashing ski-doo and Polaris you should post some pics of you rides so we can all see that you really are a rider and not just a poser.

 

[Slick]

ok slick offer some intelligent usefull non bashing coment on anything snowmobile, you have not given me any reason to show you any respect, all i have seen from you is why the xp is junk, almost to the point that i think you have a reason. are you are a dealer for another brand, sell aftermarket parts [non doo] ect. ?

I don't think the XP is junk. The contrary is true. Again, slower this time....its the opinion that it outperforms, outlasts, outclimbs, etc, all others, thats just not correct and misleading.
Hows this for ya, great sled, leading the light-weight race, one of the best choices for mountain riders. OK ?

And Concreteman...... apparently hair to toes.

 

[lucky13]

[QUOTE=Slick
Hows this for ya, great sled, leading the light-weight race, one of the best choices for mountain riders. OK

i have never said that it out performs outlasts outclimbs anything, i said it stomps the crap out of 95% of the sleds on the mountain, maybe where you ride most of the machines are turbos that is not true where i ride. this is just a guess i would say 99% of all snowmachines are stock other then clutch kit and can, and what i am refering to is this segment. this is also what i have wittnessed first hand.

please dont kill me kind comments either ill puke, if you read my stuff carefully you would understand i own 2 brands now and hope to own all 4, im not into bashing other brands i know they all have good things to offer, i do however get my butt chapped when comments come on that are just ment to get under peoples skin. i caught hell on the yamaha side just by asking how to get my nytro competative with the 600 rmk

 

[Slick]

Being kind, and offering respect are 2 different things. You want a butt kisser to tell you how smart and how right you are, look somewhere else. I could give a rats a$$ if you puke, and I think your ego's running your mouth. In a battle of wits, it would suck to be you !