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Lutherans to allow sexually active gays as clergy

luvtoride said:
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with the idea of a god, or higher power. I'm a Deist, www.deism.com, I just don't think any mainstream religion is a path to god. I just think you should live life to it's fullest without worry of damnation or something like that.

Patton Oswalt said it best in his special. Religion was invented by the weak. The big tough guys were going around kicking *** and the weak guy was next. He said "if you don't kill me, and be nice the rest of your life, you'll die and go to a city in the clouds and eat cake" the big dumb guy says, I like cake. BAM, religion is born.
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Get of the Relgion kick and your eyes may get opened to a new Way.
 
woodzy said:
Church is all about money like outlaw said. It is a business. You don't have to "give" to be one with god, you don't even have to go to church.
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Read Malachi 3:8

xrated said:
man this guy is good!!!

Relgion sucks big balls, always has always will.

My good friend and preacher once put it like this.

"Religion, I don't do religion. All that is is a bunch of rules and do this don't do that crap. Who want's to be told what to do? Not me. I choose to have a RELATIONSHIP with the Lord God. Nobody in a suit, etc telling me what to do, etc. Just reading Gods word and talking things over with him."

That's what I go for and I love it. I tried "Religion", then I strayed away and did my own thing. Now I'm back in the fold doing the Relationship deal and it's great.
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Jesus said, if you love me, keep my commandments.

Y'all can believe what you want. I am totally cool with that. But there are scriptures that dispute many of the comment made. Of course, you must believe that the scriptures are actually the word of god first.
 
mtnpull said:
Read Malachi 3:8



Jesus said, if you love me, keep my commandments.

Y'all can believe what you want. I am totally cool with that. But there are scriptures that dispute many of the comment made. Of course, you must believe that the scriptures are actually the word of god first.
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yep it does...but doing what someone who loves you say and who you love is different then a "pulpit" man telling ya what to do.
 
I find it ironic that every single one of us are here because our forefather's wanted religious freedom. Now we use our freedom to denounce religion.
 
What someone does behind their own doors...as long as I don't have to know about it and as long as they don't go around waving it in someone's face with some sense of entitlement...WhoFknCares?
 
xrated said:
My good friend and preacher once put it like this.

"Religion, I don't do religion. All that is is a bunch of rules and do this don't do that crap. Who want's to be told what to do? Not me. I choose to have a RELATIONSHIP with the Lord God. Nobody in a suit, etc telling me what to do, etc. Just reading Gods word and talking things over with him."

That's what I go for and I love it. I tried "Religion", then I strayed away and did my own thing. Now I'm back in the fold doing the Relationship deal and it's great.
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That sounds good, makes sense to others and I'm sure God is pleased that you turn to him & try to live a good life.
But what is missing with "your way" is going out & spreading the Word of God with those who are not currently getting it.
With all of it's flaws, this is where organized religion most defininately has it's place. This is something we should all try to do better.
 
Mafesto said:
That sounds good, makes sense to others and I'm sure God is pleased that you turn to him & try to live a good life.
But what is missing with "your way" is going out & spreading the Word of God with those who are not currently getting it.
With all of it's flaws, this is where organized religion most defininately has it's place. This is something we should all try to do better.
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As long as people aren't pushing their agenda I have no problem with that.

To be blunt though, the Jehovah's around here piss me off, you've gotta slam the door in their face or they won't leave you alone.
 
maluchm said:
Sorry but this almost sounds like a slogan that Amway would use. Or if it's directed towards Born Again Christians, I wouldn't find it surprising.
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yeah I thought of that after the fact...oh well hopefully you got a chuckle.
 
Mafesto said:
That sounds good, makes sense to others and I'm sure God is pleased that you turn to him & try to live a good life.
But what is missing with "your way" is going out & spreading the Word of God with those who are not currently getting it.
With all of it's flaws, this is where organized religion most defininately has it's place. This is something we should all try to do better.
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good points. course it's not "my" way, don't wanna sound like that.
 
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