Loud pipes
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I can hear a stock sled from a long ways. They don't save lives, that is just an excuse for somebody to justify owning a set.
If you get lost push the HELP button on a SPOT device, certainly cheaper than a set of pipes and cans. What loud pipes do is create another avenue for the greenies and their sheep to shut us down even more. That is a proven fact and cannot be denied.
I'm sure dog isn't a parking lot cowboy and he has very strong opinions about loud pipes. I was giving the guy a hard time.
I once had a loud pipe and was told that is was very obnoxious, but my group always knew where I was.
It's bummer that there's always some type of new restrictions on this sport. If it's not one thing it's another.....
I once had a loud pipe and was told that is was very obnoxious, but my group always knew where I was.
It's bummer that there's always some type of new restrictions on this sport. If it's not one thing it's another.....
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TonyG
Member
Your damned if you do and damned if you don't. If we all had whisper quiet sleds, the anti- sledders would find something else. I think us sledders need to find some way to have a unified front against the greenies, even if we don't completely agree about something. If we don't hang together we will all hang separately.FWIW TonyG
First time is a warning, second time is a trip to Federal Court in Denver to fight a $150 fine.
It is true about one thing or another but the fact of the matter is, they hate hearing us. If we make an effort, maybe just maybe...
That really surprises me, I thought my old 900 with the same setup was actually a little quieter at idle and low RPM's than the stock can on it was. It was a bit louder at WOT though.
If you read tihe 2005 Yellowstone DEIS, every single bull**** dumbass reason they gave for banning snowmobiling from the park was effectivley thrown out of the study due to being compleltey baseless and most time completley contrived. This all might have changed with the 2010 DEIS now that Barry the Wonder President is in office
(gee wonder how that could happen?), but the moral of the story is ... The Yellowstone DEIS was the de-facto standard for snowmobiling impact and as I stated above, everything in the study was thrown out _BUT_ 'noise pollution' and 'air pollution'. So, my conjecture is .... we stand a lot better chances of having more access the cleaner and especially quieter our machines are.
A quiet sled is better then no sled
Props to Dogmeat, PJ-Hunter and all those who don't support loud exhausts.
We need to do a better job of policing ourselves. All offroad motorized sports are under attack. There are different reasons people don't like dirtbikes, atvs, jeeps or snowmobiles but noise is a common reason. Loud exhausts give anti-motorsport / pro-wilderness people another reason to limit our access and even shut us down completely. Where will the the big boys/loud pipes/out-of-staters play and work if snowmobiling is no longer allowed.
If riding with a quiet pipe means less wilderness, keeping the mountains open and still having somewhere to snowmobile, dirtbike, atv or jeep in 5 years then its well worth it.
Let's hear your opinions, good and bad. If we don't figure a solution out, someone in Washington will force an even worse solution on us.
Props to Dogmeat, PJ-Hunter and all those who don't support loud exhausts.
We need to do a better job of policing ourselves. All offroad motorized sports are under attack. There are different reasons people don't like dirtbikes, atvs, jeeps or snowmobiles but noise is a common reason. Loud exhausts give anti-motorsport / pro-wilderness people another reason to limit our access and even shut us down completely. Where will the the big boys/loud pipes/out-of-staters play and work if snowmobiling is no longer allowed.
If riding with a quiet pipe means less wilderness, keeping the mountains open and still having somewhere to snowmobile, dirtbike, atv or jeep in 5 years then its well worth it.
Let's hear your opinions, good and bad. If we don't figure a solution out, someone in Washington will force an even worse solution on us.
there really isn't even an argument, the quieter the snowmobile the better.
I wish my sleds could pass even a 50 dB sound check quite frankly.
The whole reason I did this BD kit is that it was the tunnel dump exhaust and was supposed to be quiet. I guess we'll see if I pass the sound check. If I don't, I guess i'll have to pay somone to build a custom baffled exhaust
That is one thing I wish OEM's and aftermarket manufacturers would do ... they've been doing it on dirt bikes for years.
Make repackable exhausts with removable baffles in them. That way you could put the baffle in where you were under noise constraints, and remove it if you were in an area where there were no restrictions.
I wish my sleds could pass even a 50 dB sound check quite frankly.
The whole reason I did this BD kit is that it was the tunnel dump exhaust and was supposed to be quiet. I guess we'll see if I pass the sound check. If I don't, I guess i'll have to pay somone to build a custom baffled exhaust
That is one thing I wish OEM's and aftermarket manufacturers would do ... they've been doing it on dirt bikes for years.
Make repackable exhausts with removable baffles in them. That way you could put the baffle in where you were under noise constraints, and remove it if you were in an area where there were no restrictions.
i have a m7 race gas turbo with a tunnel dump i made and it sound like my buddys stock m8 until you open it up then it is alittle louder so you can still have performance and not make poeples ears bleed so whats the problem. idont like loud pipes but you should not be able to say this powersport cant have loud pipes but this one can if sled have to pass sound laws so should harleys same law as sleds but that is just my thoughts
pretty pathetic when a guy asks a simple question and it takes 15 posts, trash talk, childish nonsense comments and then PJ finally answers it.....
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CO_MapMaker
Well-known member
I admit I love the sound of a piped sled, at race, not in the backcountry.
Nothing was more anoying yesterday than the sled we heard coming for miles, then into the area we were taking a break in and then carving around us. Even the kids own dad threatened to remove the new can.
I am also convinced louder pipes cause more slides......
Nothing was more anoying yesterday than the sled we heard coming for miles, then into the area we were taking a break in and then carving around us. Even the kids own dad threatened to remove the new can.
I am also convinced louder pipes cause more slides......
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So...I have been involved with Colorado State Parks from the club level and have talked to the guy that runs the show. He has said numerous times that this is not a big brother/Gestapo action (checking sound). He did say that he has instructed his crew to spend their efforts in checking people that are obviously loud. However, keep in mind that state parks are not the only entity checking sound levels. The FS will also be doing this at some locations. They may have a different approach.
I won't bash anyone in particular but if you don't understand that loud pipes (for the sake of being loud) are hurting this sport, you should really dig deep into some of the battles we face as back country snowmobilers. I never give in to the green movement to create more wilderness but the loud sleds have always been "their" strong point as to why the want us out of certain areas. It's gas on an already huge fire. Why do it? I like some good sound out of my setup, but I won't have twin stingers on any of my sleds. Someone mentioned that your are likely safe with SLP cans. I've found that true as well, but there are a lot of variables in there besides the can.
Oh yeah, I have a potty mouth as well.
I won't bash anyone in particular but if you don't understand that loud pipes (for the sake of being loud) are hurting this sport, you should really dig deep into some of the battles we face as back country snowmobilers. I never give in to the green movement to create more wilderness but the loud sleds have always been "their" strong point as to why the want us out of certain areas. It's gas on an already huge fire. Why do it? I like some good sound out of my setup, but I won't have twin stingers on any of my sleds. Someone mentioned that your are likely safe with SLP cans. I've found that true as well, but there are a lot of variables in there besides the can.
Oh yeah, I have a potty mouth as well.
how does it work?
And the keyboard jockying begins.
1) Loud pipes are a problem. That is a proven fact, whether we like them or not doesn't matter.
2) The performance, if any that you gain on a freeride or backcountry sled is so minimal that you won't notice a difference.
3) Again, Dogmeat is a 6'3" 250ish man in his late twenties. He lifts, plays hockey and could most likely crush anybody he wanted to. Careful what you wish for. I'm a freind of his and I, personally would not want those mitts hitting me in the head.
1) Loud pipes are a problem. That is a proven fact, whether we like them or not doesn't matter.
2) The performance, if any that you gain on a freeride or backcountry sled is so minimal that you won't notice a difference.
3) Again, Dogmeat is a 6'3" 250ish man in his late twenties. He lifts, plays hockey and could most likely crush anybody he wanted to. Careful what you wish for. I'm a freind of his and I, personally would not want those mitts hitting me in the head.
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SuperBad
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Try heavin any thing at me or my friends and we will take our loud pipes off our sleds and beat you over the head with it loser. oooooh loud pipes are bad, you must be a freakin chick, or a old grandpa....
STFU Mike. Stop hate'n and trying to sound so tough.
Though i agree...loud pipes are not helping the snowmobilers cause in the fight against the green nazi's...this issue is not going to be fixed over night (as some here would like it to). The powers that be in CO realize this as well. The sport and aftermarket have been putting out loud pipes for a long time and its going to take some time to get it switched over. Not everyone can afford to buy a new $400 silencer to accommedate the sensitive souls of the day. There are plently of people out there that either dont have their stock exhaust anymore, or bought a sled that had a loud exhaust system on it. A little patience will go a long way...and dont worry...you'll get what you want soon enough. Lets just see if you want what your gonna get...
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