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List of Colorado Non-Oxygenated Fuel Stations (race Fuel coming soon)

I have been speaking with the local gas stations here in Kremmling.

The Buggy Stop uses oxygenated fuel, but the 91 Octane is actually 92
The Kum and Go uses oxygenated fuel
The Short Stop (QuickStop) uses non-ethanol fuel
The unmanned station at the East end of town uses non-ethanol fuel
 
yammerhammer said:
The sportsmans quick stop is open again? The one right next to the Buggy?
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Yes, open again. The gal that closed it, sold it to her ex-husband who opened it, changed the name and hired his son to manage it. Buy your fuel there and get your snacks at Kum and Go.
 
PJtheMunchkin said:
The Kremmling suppliers come from somewhere around Craig and Steamboat, with the exception of Kum and Go. They get theirs from Denver, but all Kum and Go stores use the same supplier.
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The fuel for Steamboat, Oak Creek Yampa, Toponas and Kremmling all come from Denver's refineries. Craig and Hayden may get it from Wyoming but I would say it all comes from Denver. I took a few trips with my brother when he hauled our fuel a couple of years ago.
 
rocks rev said:
The fuel for Steamboat, Oak Creek Yampa, Toponas and Kremmling all come from Denver's refineries. Craig and Hayden may get it from Wyoming but I would say it all comes from Denver. I took a few trips with my brother when he hauled our fuel a couple of years ago.
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Just the Kum and Gos? I know that the Short Stop gets their fuel from Wyoming and the unmanned station gets his from somewhere around Craig.
 
Mrs Snowrider said:
I have a dumb (blonde) question. What do you use the race fuel for? Hill Petro is only 5 mins from my house. . . and we don't go there. hmmm, what am I missing?
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Modified sleds. Either high boosted turbos (anything over 10 lbs of boost) or sleds that have high compression heads installed (anything over 14:1). If you don't run a high enough octane your sled will detonate and shell the motor. The oxygenated fuel on the Front range and the few stations up here that is rated at 91 will actually be lower than 91. Non oxygenated fuels are actually holding the octane rated on the pump.
 
PJtheMunchkin said:
The oxygenated fuel on the Front range and the few stations up here that is rated at 91 will actually be lower than 91. Non oxygenated fuels are actually holding the octane rated on the pump.
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That is not exactly true. Most fuels are oxygenated with Ethanol. Ethanol has a higher octane rating, I think around 116 octane. So in all reality it should have a higher rating than regular 91. I think they carry up to 10% ethanol. So 116 (.10) + 91(.9) = 93.5 octane.

The deal breaker and what causes a lean condition is that Ethanol has less BTU's (British Thermal Units) in it. BTU is a measurment of actual usable ENERGY. Less BTU's means less work can be done with it.

Ethanol would probably make a GREAT turbo fuel, or even E-85 for that matter. You will not get as much mileage but it is CHEAP octane. You do have to jet for it properly.

If things don't change with the shortage of non-oxygenated fuel it is going to be that everyone has to needle down to make up for the oxygenated fuel. That is probably the safest thing to do.
 
milehighassassin said:
That is not exactly true. Most fuels are oxygenated with Ethanol. Ethanol has a higher octane rating, I think around 116 octane. So in all reality it should have a higher rating than regular 91. I think they carry up to 10% ethanol. So 116 (.10) + 91(.9) = 93.5 octane.

The deal breaker and what causes a lean condition is that Ethanol has less BTU's (British Thermal Units) in it. BTU is a measurment of actual usable ENERGY. Less BTU's means less work can be done with it.

Ethanol would probably make a GREAT turbo fuel, or even E-85 for that matter. You will not get as much mileage but it is CHEAP octane. You do have to jet for it properly.

If things don't change with the shortage of non-oxygenated fuel it is going to be that everyone has to needle down to make up for the oxygenated fuel. That is probably the safest thing to do.
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milehigh~ If I am reading this correctly, and oxygenated fuel causes a lean condition in the modded sleds...wouldn't one want to needle up to compensate for the lean condition?? Or when you say needle down, are you literally talking about taking the c-clip down, which in turn would raise the needle? Just curious man and want to clarify for people:)
 
icedrop said:
Anyone know of any good gas (non-oxygenated) to be had anywhere in summit county by any chance?
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I've searched around Summit county with no luck. If you find anything be sure to post it up. I got bored one day and drove around places just asking. If they don't know or you get a "I think we carry un-oxygenated fuel" or the "what is oxygenated fuel?" You had better just assume the fuel they have is oxygenated.

Also, just because they don't have a sticker doesn't mean the fuel is safe. I have seen several places that don't have stickers but have oxygenated fuel. It should be a legal requirement to have that sticker.

The problem with most of the fuel in the Summit and Eagle county areas is that the fuel supply comes from Denver.
 
Ethanol would probably make a GREAT turbo fuel, or even E-85 for that matter. You will not get as much mileage but it is CHEAP octane. You do have to jet for it properly.
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This is true for cars, Subaru WRX's at least. To use E-85 in my WRX requires a larger fuel pump, higher flow injectors and a proper tune. When tuned for E-85 turbo cars yield higher horsepower and a big jump in torque.
I believe the only drawback is the gelling factor at cold temps, but I could be mistaken. I do know it is virtually impossible to find E-85 in the mountains.
 
summit county fuel

Last year the gas station/convenience store in the Wilderness developement in Silverethorne was carrying non oxy fuel. Less than mile off I-70 at the silverthorne exit. The owner of the store made sure he had non oxy fuel. billygoats m8 turbo ran fine for 1300 miles on their fuel. I do not know about what they will have this year. Hope it's the same stuff.
 
I've been checking here in San Luis Valley, so far the Monte Vista Coop claims Non-Oxygenated. But for sure they have race gas. They have 55 gal. drums, might also sell by the gallon.

Is there some way to tell for sure or do we just have to ask and take there word for it?
 
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