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lets see some pictures of sleds going to BIGIRON!!

The smack talk is funny to read. When I go to Canada (not this year) I'm going to be careful with how much smack I talk because I'm may need the Canadians to help pull my sled over the hill if I don't make it lol:D.

Drag racing is fine and dandy. Who gives a sh** how fast you can go in a straight line if it won't climb the chutes everyone else is hitting. Isn't that the purpose of going up there? If a guy wants to drag race why drive 20 hours, pass by all the hills and chutes a long the way and go to a drag hill. Don't need to go to Canada for that. Don't get me wrong, it's cool to see who's sleds are fast but what I'm looking at is what sleds are making it over the top of those mountains. Or at least trying to make it over. I ride to climb, not to drag race. In that order. If there is a sled that can climb those chutes and not win a drag race against a sled that was built to run on a straight line, I would give more props to the sled that can climb. What sled would people who ride in the Mountains rather put a leg over each week during the winter?

snowmobiling is more than just hillclimbing and chute pulling. In fact the kind of climbing you are talking about constitutes probably less than 2or3% of all snowmobiling as a sport. Are snowcrossers not cool cause they ride sleds that wont climb? Whatabout freestylers? For some reason the big chute pullers love to talk down to those who like to go fast. I say ride how you want and let others do what they want.
I went to BIS once and raced the drag. There were 5000 people there and about 20 of them were climbing the big hills. Some of these hills were scary and some not so scary, but what was scary was the thought of wadding up in front of 5000 people. I sat there and watched all of these big shot riders stare at the mountain same as me. I went there to win a drag cause I like fast sleds, I wish I woulda made a pull or two or put someone on the Trex to show people it would have climbed to the moon but I was content to just be there at the time. Everyone says I built my sled to drag race but what they dont realize is that other than the track it is built to climb. No one can tell me one aspect of my sled that doesnt lend itself to climbing other than the 2.25x159 finger which actually isnt a bad mtn track.
As one sledder likes chutes, another likes trails, another likes boondocking, another like cornice drops, another like big hp, another like lake racing..... it all beats a day at the office.
 
snowmobiling is more than just hillclimbing and chute pulling. In fact the kind of climbing you are talking about constitutes probably less than 2or3% of all snowmobiling as a sport. Are snowcrossers not cool cause they ride sleds that wont climb? Whatabout freestylers? For some reason the big chute pullers love to talk down to those who like to go fast. I say ride how you want and let others do what they want.
I went to BIS once and raced the drag. There were 5000 people there and about 20 of them were climbing the big hills. Some of these hills were scary and some not so scary, but what was scary was the thought of wadding up in front of 5000 people. I sat there and watched all of these big shot riders stare at the mountain same as me. I went there to win a drag cause I like fast sleds, I wish I woulda made a pull or two or put someone on the Trex to show people it would have climbed to the moon but I was content to just be there at the time. Everyone says I built my sled to drag race but what they dont realize is that other than the track it is built to climb. No one can tell me one aspect of my sled that doesnt lend itself to climbing other than the 2.25x159 finger which actually isnt a bad mtn track.
As one sledder likes chutes, another likes trails, another likes boondocking, another like cornice drops, another like big hp, another like lake racing..... it all beats a day at the office.

x2 on the beats a day at the office (school for me)
 
snowmobiling is more than just hillclimbing and chute pulling. In fact the kind of climbing you are talking about constitutes probably less than 2or3% of all snowmobiling as a sport. Are snowcrossers not cool cause they ride sleds that wont climb? Whatabout freestylers? For some reason the big chute pullers love to talk down to those who like to go fast. I say ride how you want and let others do what they want.
I went to BIS once and raced the drag. There were 5000 people there and about 20 of them were climbing the big hills. Some of these hills were scary and some not so scary, but what was scary was the thought of wadding up in front of 5000 people. I sat there and watched all of these big shot riders stare at the mountain same as me. I went there to win a drag cause I like fast sleds, I wish I woulda made a pull or two or put someone on the Trex to show people it would have climbed to the moon but I was content to just be there at the time. Everyone says I built my sled to drag race but what they dont realize is that other than the track it is built to climb. No one can tell me one aspect of my sled that doesnt lend itself to climbing other than the 2.25x159 finger which actually isnt a bad mtn track.
As one sledder likes chutes, another likes trails, another likes boondocking, another like cornice drops, another like big hp, another like lake racing..... it all beats a day at the office.

Well the race I want against mr easy money 1000 bucks is a race to win the BIS. That means climbing chutes. No offence to the guys that build fast straight line sled, its not for me. Also if you have a fast straight line sled arn't most of those guys back east? If I wanted to say I had a wicked climbing sled I wouldnt go to P.E.I to race in the hill climb there! This is the BIS and to take home the braging rights you have to climb chutes. BIS champ is the guy that climbs the best all day. As for all the talking on here we will put it to rest in a few days, promise!!!!
 
snowmobiling is more than just hillclimbing and chute pulling. In fact the kind of climbing you are talking about constitutes probably less than 2or3% of all snowmobiling as a sport. Are snowcrossers not cool cause they ride sleds that wont climb? Whatabout freestylers? For some reason the big chute pullers love to talk down to those who like to go fast. I say ride how you want and let others do what they want.
I went to BIS once and raced the drag. There were 5000 people there and about 20 of them were climbing the big hills. Some of these hills were scary and some not so scary, but what was scary was the thought of wadding up in front of 5000 people. I sat there and watched all of these big shot riders stare at the mountain same as me. I went there to win a drag cause I like fast sleds, I wish I woulda made a pull or two or put someone on the Trex to show people it would have climbed to the moon but I was content to just be there at the time. Everyone says I built my sled to drag race but what they dont realize is that other than the track it is built to climb. No one can tell me one aspect of my sled that doesnt lend itself to climbing other than the 2.25x159 finger which actually isnt a bad mtn track.
As one sledder likes chutes, another likes trails, another likes boondocking, another like cornice drops, another like big hp, another like lake racing..... it all beats a day at the office.

I think it is totally fine to build a sled to what ever riding style you want. If that's racing a straight line, great. If it's snowcross, climbing, whatever. My point is if you go to the Big Iron I would personaly not go that far to just drag race. I think even the Canadians will agree that there are probably faster straight line sleds out east. Their sleds are built to climb, not race. East coast riders are built to race not climb. And thats fine. I love drag racing, boondocking, and climbing. But I don't see the point of driving that far if you from the states to do a drag race. There are plenty of fast sleds in the states to race if that's what you are into. In the spring when there isn't anything to climb I'll go race. I'll race on good snow days to, but not the majority of the ride. I totally agree it's better then a day at the office.

My case and point, my Apex in a striaght line would beat Pauls (Impulse) Blue Nytro in a race. But when we climb steep and deep chutes I have to pull out at least 3/4 of the chute or bury it while he can go over with ease. I'll give props for his sled being "better" then mine because of that. Because we build sleds to climb and ride the mountains and his does it MUCH better then mine. I could care less if I beat him in a drag race. Now when I have a M-10 comming this summer hopefully that will change.

Again JMHO. For some going up there to race is enough reason to make the trip. That's fine to.:beer;
 
2/3 of the big iron trophies are for drag racing. If you dont like that, change the rules and lets not have the "fast sleds" even show up. Have 3 trophies for climbing, one for the dumb a@#, one for the dumber a@#, and one for the dumbest a@$.
 
2/3 of the big iron trophies are for drag racing. If you dont like that, change the rules and lets not have the "fast sleds" even show up. Have 3 trophies for climbing, one for the dumb a@#, one for the dumber a@#, and one for the dumbest a@$.

3/4 of the day is spent climbing chutes, the fast sled stuff is so more peeps will compete. Anyone is willing to drag race, even poopchute will do that!! Come on out bigpoopchute you never answered are you in for the climbs? Or is that to lilman for ya?
 
Oh you huys are lucky, this young fella has a cold and cant bring his new sleddown this weekend. ANd all 43lbs of him was itchin' and twitchin to chew up sum azzzzzzzzzzzzz. LOL...man I love this kid and pic
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Visualize the backie.....visualize the backie.....visualize the backie
 
3/4 of the day is spent climbing chutes, the fast sled stuff is so more peeps will compete. Anyone is willing to drag race, even poopchute will do that!! Come on out bigpoopchute you never answered are you in for the climbs? Or is that to lilman for ya?

poopchute is either chickening out or he is busy mounting his 2up seat on that crossbreed so his brother can ride shotgun with him to hold his waste gates shut while climbing, haha! He did say his sled was ugly so I'm just picturing something like that.
 
I think it is totally fine to build a sled to what ever riding style you want. If that's racing a straight line, great. If it's snowcross, climbing, whatever. My point is if you go to the Big Iron I would personaly not go that far to just drag race. I think even the Canadians will agree that there are probably faster straight line sleds out east. Their sleds are built to climb, not race. East coast riders are built to race not climb. And thats fine. I love drag racing, boondocking, and climbing. But I don't see the point of driving that far if you from the states to do a drag race. There are plenty of fast sleds in the states to race if that's what you are into. In the spring when there isn't anything to climb I'll go race. I'll race on good snow days to, but not the majority of the ride. I totally agree it's better then a day at the office.

My case and point, my Apex in a striaght line would beat Pauls (Impulse) Blue Nytro in a race. But when we climb steep and deep chutes I have to pull out at least 3/4 of the chute or bury it while he can go over with ease. I'll give props for his sled being "better" then mine because of that. Because we build sleds to climb and ride the mountains and his does it MUCH better then mine. I could care less if I beat him in a drag race. Now when I have a M-10 comming this summer hopefully that will change.

Again JMHO. For some going up there to race is enough reason to make the trip. That's fine to.:beer;

Zeb you know I like ya so dont take this personal. :p
Why are you comparing an uphill drag sled to a back east flatlander sled. How do you think the sled below would do at race bowl in Fairview? To me it proves hillclimbers are just insecure of the attention that fast sleds get. "Hey everyone stop looking at the drag sleds, they arent cool, we have bigger penises and we risk our lives on these chutes, fast doesnt mean anything, chute pulling is the only way to be cool ." It takes skill to climb chutes and it takes skill to tune a 400hp hillclimber to be the fastest on the mtn. I climb a little and I drag a lot, you guys climb a lot and drag a little. Just let it be. Both are cool, people go to BIS to see both. I would drive again for 15 hrs to prove that I was the fastest, its fun to me, and after the drags I would sit back and watch the hillclimbers and never would I say that hillclimbing isnt cool.
The fact that your sled wont climb with pauls is ez to understand. Your Apex suspension sucks under heavy hp. Its the same reason you wouldnt be able to win fairview unless you change it. We are modding my suspension to keep the front end down better and once we do it will have better control for both racing and climbing. You guys dont want to admit it but uphill drag racing and chute pulling require almost identical setups and that setuip is not even in the same continent as a straight line haydays sled.
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As I know There is a way bigger risk in chute climbing than drag racing.
Most chutes if you don,t make there will be parts flying.
If you don't win a race your sled more than likely will still be able to race...

Most guys are not willing to take that risk.Imo
 
Well from the point of view from a guy that hasn't been sledding that long I notice at the race hill everyone wants to try including myself. Nothing scary about racing up super bowl. Then we go to sugar bowl and the field is less then half now, a big climb for me. Then we go to the chutes and suddenly we are down to like ten guys yet everyone is still watching. I wish I had the dang-lies for the chutes and props to the guys that do, but those numbers tell me something. :beer;
 
Why are you comparing an uphill drag sled to a back east flatlander sled. How do you think the sled below would do at race bowl in Fairview? To me it proves hillclimbers are just insecure of the attention that fast sleds get.
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Jims sled there would probably do about as good as glenn halls F chassis 144x13.5" track F12 turbo did last year at race bowl.


Probably better than most would think!
 
Well from the point of view from a guy that hasn't been sledding that long I notice at the race hill everyone wants to try including myself. Nothing scary about racing up super bowl. Then we go to sugar bowl and the field is less then half now, a big climb for me. Then we go to the chutes and suddenly we are down to like ten guys yet everyone is still watching. I wish I had the dang-lies for the chutes and props to the guys that do, but those numbers tell me something. :beer;

Lots of sleds out there that will make the climbs,just not alot of riders that own businesses or have the cash to replace what they have worked hard to build.
 
Lots of sleds out there that will make the climbs,just not alot of riders that own businesses or have the cash to replace what they have worked hard to build.

I know lots of sleds can make the climbs but my point was not many guys WILL do the chutes. But I'm sure there are a couple of guy's that would do them if it wasn't for the risk of wrecking the sled and to them a beer to. :beer;
 
I know lots of sleds can make the climbs but my point was not many guys WILL do the chutes. But I'm sure there are a couple of guy's that would do them if it wasn't for the risk of wrecking the sled and to them a beer to. :beer;

Thats what I meant too.
 
I just returned from a week of riding at Togwotee. This was my 3rd trip out west, ever. I have to give great respect to ALL the western riders. Whether it is boondocking, hill climbing, chute climbing, cornice dropping, or whatever. Back here at home our fun is boondocking/hill climbing through some tight trees (Michigans U.P.) After 6 days of riding with a guide out there, who pushed us to do/try new things every day, all I can say is, holy crap I was BEAT!

I love all the bs back and forth on here. Any one of you guys who climb those chutes, or race up them, or whatever you want to call it, deserve a lot of respect. Can't wait for Boost 4.:beer;
 
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