Legalizing Pot
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legalize it, tax it, get over it.
I would like to see how well this topic went over in the Colorado section!!!
Surely a West coast comfortable topic!!
Surely a West coast comfortable
topic!!
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Lushbomb
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retard comment right there... some people don't even need to smoke pot to be retarded.. its pretty typical of the right..
i'm no real stoner.. but i know the effects and they are not dangerous and do not keep you from riding.
the same people that get high and sled now, will be the same people that get high and sled when its legal.. it being legal or not doesn't stop people from growing, or smoking it.. and it will certainly not stop people from riding your precious backcountry if it were legal there would probably be more sledders..
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I would like to see how well this topic went over in the Colorado section!!!
Surely a West coast comfortable
Or moderator won't let us even talk about it...moved straight to the trash bin
It is even legal in CO with a medical card, we have mobile dispensaries that will bring it to your front door!
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fassteddie
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how do you know if i smoke pot or not. and i'm not on the right..........
Well I was thinking the same thing as Lushbomb based on your post.
I think that consenting adults have the right to make their own decisions.
As long as what their doing is not immoral or harming anyone else.
As for less peeps riding sleds...
forget that fantasy dude.I can't believe that there are still people in the world that actually believe that stupid 1930's stereotype!
I know guys that smoke who are always the first truck in the lot in the morning! By a long margin.
Most of the time, its still dark when they leave the truck. Where are you at fastssssssssssssst?I know, you live in such a confuses state............NOt you as in confused.......aaaa never mind you know what I mean!!!
here is to Colorado!!
here is to Colorado!!
Or moderator won't let us even talk about it...moved straight to the trash bin
It is even legal in CO with a medical card, we have mobile dispensaries that will bring it to your front door!
He's preparing for tomorrows wake and bake!
Well I was thinking the same thing as Lushbomb based on your post.
I think that consenting adults have the right to make their own decisions.
As long as what their doing is not immoral or harming anyone else.
As for less peeps riding sleds...
I can't believe that there are still people in the world that actually believe that stupid 1930's stereotype!
I know guys that smoke who are always the first truck in the lot in the morning! By a long margin.
I wonder when insurance companies will cover perscriptions.
I've never tried it, don't care to try it. Just not interested. But, that doesn't mean I support laws keeping others from using it. History has shown that prohibition doesn't work too well, when the product desired is within certain limits of destructive powers. (yes I'm aware that those limits are subject to LOTS of debate and personal values) I don't like being told what I can or can't do. I understand that I should not be allowed to behave in a manner that negatively affects others, but that's where the line is, in my book. It is supposed to be a free country, and freedom comes with risks.
But, I base a lot of my perspective on this: I am a fireman, I've been to LOTS of car wrecks, fights, falls, domestic violence issues, fires, even suicides. Not ONCE have I been to a call where grass has caused, contributed or magnified the problem. I have been to many, many, many calls where alcohol either caused the issue, or made the situation worse. I type this with an empty glass of what used to be Jameson sitting next to the keyboard.
I can buy booze, I can buy tobacco, legally and for recreational use. And, an employer has the right and prerogative to mandate that you are not under the influence of either while in their employ, and "on the clock". The same can go for grass. If you want to do that on your time, fine. Show up high, you're gone. The employer has the right to determine what is the acceptable level of chemical influence you can be under while they own your time. (by the way, the .08 that WA applies to driving, is just that: driving)
To me, this is more of a personal moral/value choice, and not one the Gov't should get involved with. I care more about the principle of the gov't keeping out of my business than I do about recreational grass.
As far as the tax stuff goes? For those that want to smoke weed, if you could buy a pack of 5 joints @ the local 7-11 (provided you were, say, 21 or older) for $20, would you even bother to try to grow your own, harvest, pick dry, and roll your own? I doubt it. The gov't could set the tax rates so high (no pun intended) that the 5 joints cost $20, we'd make a he!! of a dent in the national debt in a short time. But, make sure the gov't protects the RIGHTS of the employers to determine the level of toxicity in the bloodstream of it's paid employees.
That's just my humble opinion....
But, I base a lot of my perspective on this: I am a fireman, I've been to LOTS of car wrecks, fights, falls, domestic violence issues, fires, even suicides. Not ONCE have I been to a call where grass has caused, contributed or magnified the problem. I have been to many, many, many calls where alcohol either caused the issue, or made the situation worse. I type this with an empty glass of what used to be Jameson sitting next to the keyboard.
I can buy booze, I can buy tobacco, legally and for recreational use. And, an employer has the right and prerogative to mandate that you are not under the influence of either while in their employ, and "on the clock". The same can go for grass. If you want to do that on your time, fine. Show up high, you're gone. The employer has the right to determine what is the acceptable level of chemical influence you can be under while they own your time. (by the way, the .08 that WA applies to driving, is just that: driving)
To me, this is more of a personal moral/value choice, and not one the Gov't should get involved with. I care more about the principle of the gov't keeping out of my business than I do about recreational grass.
As far as the tax stuff goes? For those that want to smoke weed, if you could buy a pack of 5 joints @ the local 7-11 (provided you were, say, 21 or older) for $20, would you even bother to try to grow your own, harvest, pick dry, and roll your own? I doubt it. The gov't could set the tax rates so high (no pun intended) that the 5 joints cost $20, we'd make a he!! of a dent in the national debt in a short time. But, make sure the gov't protects the RIGHTS of the employers to determine the level of toxicity in the bloodstream of it's paid employees.
That's just my humble opinion....
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fassteddie
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agin you dont know me. if you did you'd know that i always ride early the only time to get fresh is early.sorry did'nt mean to wake you up when i start out. all i can say is smoke it if you got it! see ya on the hill.......
Well Im on the right and think we should make it legal, our family 76 could make a killing off it Pretty sure fassteddie was having some fun not calling out all stoners for being losers!
Pretty sure fassteddie was having some fun not calling out all stoners for being losers!
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Ultralord
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I dont care who you are thats some funny stuff i almost pissed myself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KYQj0-Is98
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KYQj0-Is98
I will disagree
If pot becomes common like alcohol, it will start showing up as a big contributer to accidents and other issues. Be honest and compare the number of drinkers you know to the tokers. If it is legal and readily available, (7-11) the user number will grow quickly. I know that you cannot operate a car effectively while stoned. I don't think anyone 'experienced' can argue that. Your reaction time is not there.
As for the wasted money on enforcement, I tend to agree. There are more serious issues out there, but legalizing things to save money is not a slope I am willing to go down. My personal right wing wacko opinion.
If pot becomes common like alcohol, it will start showing up as a big contributer to accidents and other issues. Be honest and compare the number of drinkers you know to the tokers. If it is legal and readily available, (7-11) the user number will grow quickly. I know that you cannot operate a car effectively while stoned. I don't think anyone 'experienced' can argue that. Your reaction time is not there.
As for the wasted money on enforcement, I tend to agree. There are more serious issues out there, but legalizing things to save money is not a slope I am willing to go down. My personal right wing wacko opinion.
I will disagree
If pot becomes common like alcohol, it will start showing up as a big contributer to accidents and other issues. Be honest and compare the number of drinkers you know to the tokers. If it is legal and readily available, (7-11) the user number will grow quickly. I know that you cannot operate a car effectively while stoned. I don't think anyone 'experienced' can argue that. Your reaction time is not there.
As for the wasted money on enforcement, I tend to agree. There are more serious issues out there, but legalizing things to save money is not a slope I am willing to go down. My personal right wing wacko opinion.
It sounds like then that you would be in support of absolute prohibition? If your standard on if a substance should be legal is whether or not a person can operate a car effectively while under the influence, then I guess Alcohol and possibly nicotine should be made illegal. Also, I think you under-estimate the number of current users and also the fact that a large number of people would drink less if they could legally smoke pot. Interesting opinion though.
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I will disagree
If pot becomes common like alcohol, it will start showing up as a big contributer to accidents and other issues. Be honest and compare the number of drinkers you know to the tokers. If it is legal and readily available, (7-11) the user number will grow quickly.
I don't know about that. I would think looking at high school kids would be a great example. Drunk driving is still the #1 killer for that age bracket. When I went to school, it was easier to score grass than liquor. I would imagine that might be similar for a lot of kids.
Big step in the right direction yesterday. The Federal Govenement will no longer be wasting its time and money prosecuting marijuana if the state has decided it is legal for medical purposes
The Associated Press reports:
The Obama administration will not seek to arrest medical marijuana users and suppliers as long as they conform to state laws, under new policy guidelines to be sent to federal prosecutors today. Two Justice Department officials described the policy to the Associated Press, saying prosecutors will be told it is not a good use of their time to arrest people who use or provide medical marijuana in strict compliance with state laws.
The policy is a significant departure from the Bush administration, which insisted it would continue to enforce federal anti-pot laws regardless of state codes.
Fourteen states allow some use of marijuana for medical purposes: Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington.
The Associated Press reports:
The Obama administration will not seek to arrest medical marijuana users and suppliers as long as they conform to state laws, under new policy guidelines to be sent to federal prosecutors today. Two Justice Department officials described the policy to the Associated Press, saying prosecutors will be told it is not a good use of their time to arrest people who use or provide medical marijuana in strict compliance with state laws.
The policy is a significant departure from the Bush administration, which insisted it would continue to enforce federal anti-pot laws regardless of state codes.
Fourteen states allow some use of marijuana for medical purposes: Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington.
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