Nice try.......I could never do that......its the only thing protecting my thoughts from the alien death rays!
I've sure seen a lot of this going on!
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Nice try.......I could never do that......its the only thing protecting my thoughts from the alien death rays!
Its obvioulsy a conspiracy from the "BIG FOUR" to try and stop your snowmobile movies from being profitiable. This also explains their lack of funds to support the future of this dwindling sport. Dem planes ain't cheap!
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Jaynelson
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And what exactly are you doing differently with your new found enlightenment?
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Jorli
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This link shows a recommendation for funding research to study the effects of one of their programs and the framework to govern it. They are admitting it is being done.
Three programs I have read about are:
1- Solar Radiation Management
2- Weather weaponization
3- Scalar electromagnectic weapons
"Solar Radiation Management (SRM) techniques, which reflect a small percentage of the sun's light and heat back into space. These methods act quickly, and so may represent the only way to lower global temperatures quickly in the event of a climate crisis. However, they only reduce some, but not all, effects of climate change, while possibly creating other problems."
http://royalsociety.org/Geoengineering-the-climate/
The report recommends:
Parties to the UNFCCC should make increased efforts towards mitigating and adapting to climate change and in particular to agreeing to global emissions reductions of at least 50% on 1990 levels by 2050 and more thereafter;
CDR and SRM geoengineering methods should only be considered as part of a wider package of options for addressing climate change. CDR methods should be regarded as preferable to SRM methods.
Relevant UK government departments, in association with the UK Research Councils, should together fund a 10 year geoengineering research programme at a level of the order of £10M per annum.
The Royal Society, in collaboration with international science partners, should develop a code of practice for geoengineering research and provide recommendations to the international scientific community for a voluntary research governance framework.
The Royal Society issued a call for submissions and convened a small ethics workshop as part of the evidence gathering process. More information is available in the main report.
Three programs I have read about are:
1- Solar Radiation Management
2- Weather weaponization
3- Scalar electromagnectic weapons
"Solar Radiation Management (SRM) techniques, which reflect a small percentage of the sun's light and heat back into space. These methods act quickly, and so may represent the only way to lower global temperatures quickly in the event of a climate crisis. However, they only reduce some, but not all, effects of climate change, while possibly creating other problems."
http://royalsociety.org/Geoengineering-the-climate/
The report recommends:
Parties to the UNFCCC should make increased efforts towards mitigating and adapting to climate change and in particular to agreeing to global emissions reductions of at least 50% on 1990 levels by 2050 and more thereafter;
CDR and SRM geoengineering methods should only be considered as part of a wider package of options for addressing climate change. CDR methods should be regarded as preferable to SRM methods.
Relevant UK government departments, in association with the UK Research Councils, should together fund a 10 year geoengineering research programme at a level of the order of £10M per annum.
The Royal Society, in collaboration with international science partners, should develop a code of practice for geoengineering research and provide recommendations to the international scientific community for a voluntary research governance framework.
The Royal Society issued a call for submissions and convened a small ethics workshop as part of the evidence gathering process. More information is available in the main report.
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There are plenty of things you can do to help rid your body of the things you are exposed to. No need for me to explain though for the majority of population will never believe what is happening for the fact that it's ON THE INTERNET...the INTERNET is just one big LIE. Even the declassified military records that are on the net must be a LIE due to being on the INTERNET!
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Jorli
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Wow, reading through the posts, it would appear that snowmobilers are our own worst enemies, this issue was brought in the context of exposing a real environmental disaster, -spraying the stratosphere with Aluminum, Barium and Sulphur Dioxide.
Its no wonder that many riding areas are on the brink of getting shutdown, its too bad so many of you keyboard quarterbacks don't put your time to better use.
Its no wonder that many riding areas are on the brink of getting shutdown, its too bad so many of you keyboard quarterbacks don't put your time to better use.
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Jorli
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Holy SH$T!!!!!!!!
What a message, join the climate cult or die! You have got to see this!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qff2xJgDuOY
What a message, join the climate cult or die! You have got to see this!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qff2xJgDuOY
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Jaynelson
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I don't have a lot of spare time to investigate obscure theories that may or may not be true, with theoretical side effects that may or may not affect me, and theoretical cures that may or may not help IF there is a problem to help with.
Yes, most doomsday theories on the net are just that....just like the modern media; doom, gloom, exagerations, lies, and general BS to either get you to buy their media or buy into their theories.
This time last year you were as good as dead without the H1N1 vaccine according to the internet and media. Well I never got it and I'm still here. So to sit around worrying about this tin foil hat **** is a complete waste of energy to me.
Did i say anything about worrying about S**T? Um nope! Just amazed at the masses that think we live in a perfect world and nothing bad is going on in everyday life. JUST SAYING!
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Jorli
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I think this conversation is really going in the wrong direction, I've qualified my statements and don't feel any need to expand any further, do your own research and draw your own conclusions.
I do believe it would benefit snowmobilers to start an environmental movement of our own. Snowmobiling is an easy target for environmental scrutiny, yet its effects are miniscule in comparison to real environmental issues- Stratospheric Aerosol Geo-Engineering could certainly be one that could use some real scrutiny. We are to going to lose our sport if don't get our act together and effect some real change. I think it would be very beneficial to think about these forums in an education capacity, rather than hosting a loud mouth contest.
I'm really disappointed by some of the other posts here, just unintelligible garbage.
Need to get emission data on the new machines to compare against other industries and maybe think about some noise restrictions on aftermarket pipes and silencers. Just my thoughts...
I do believe it would benefit snowmobilers to start an environmental movement of our own. Snowmobiling is an easy target for environmental scrutiny, yet its effects are miniscule in comparison to real environmental issues- Stratospheric Aerosol Geo-Engineering could certainly be one that could use some real scrutiny. We are to going to lose our sport if don't get our act together and effect some real change. I think it would be very beneficial to think about these forums in an education capacity, rather than hosting a loud mouth contest.
I'm really disappointed by some of the other posts here, just unintelligible garbage.
Need to get emission data on the new machines to compare against other industries and maybe think about some noise restrictions on aftermarket pipes and silencers. Just my thoughts...
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RMK7SledHead
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You have no idea who I am, or what I do with my time every day. I can promise you that conspiracy theories, and even snowmobiling, are the least of my concerns right now.
Enjoy chasing your shadows...I'll keep making them for you.
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Jorli
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You have no idea who I am, or what I do with my time every day. I can promise you that conspiracy theories, and even snowmobiling, are the least of my concerns right now.
Enjoy chasing your shadows...I'll keep making them for you.
I'm intrigued! Elaborate.
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tranquillicer
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Environment
I just finished 2 days of hearing nothing but crap from the director of Avatar trashing the tar sands project in northern Alberta from his 10,000sq ft home in Cal. prior to flying up here in his private jet and then touring around in a fleet of helicopters like some knight in shining armour. Suggesting we should stop using Alberta crude because it's not environmentaly friendly. Now it seems that there are those out there that think we as a group of snowmobilers should stand up in public and demonstrate how environmentaly responsible we are. "Get a Grip" Any one here that wouldn't be sledding if these machines weren't as clean as they are? I doubt it. Read the forums. What percentage of owners here take a perfectly good, EPA compliant sled and then mod the crap out of it, making it about as environmentally friendly as that jerk-offs jet is when it pollutes the air as it races scheduled airliners to the Edmonton Int. at Leduc. How bout the tree huggers parading all over this planet promoting alternate energy sources? Any body remember Al Gore?
If you want to be an example of someone who believes in a green planet then give up the sh$t that makes it dirty. You want to save the environment from human contamination.....jump off a cliff because as long as you populate this planet you will be contaminating it, it's what we do best. We over populate and consume and by default, we will eventually ruin this planet.
As snowmobilers we enjoy ourselves at the expense of consuming fossil fuels. How can we legitamately stand up in a public forum and try to present ourselves as environmentalists. Maybe we should team up with NASCAR and Indy racing and form an alliance.
You want to be an environmental watch dog...go ahead. Gather your troops,head off to war and find your hill to die on. I'll be riding my sled and burning fossil fuels and I will contribute nothing positive to this planet while I'm doing it. Then I'll go back to polluting the atmosphere as I attempt to produce cheap food to feed the masses.
I just finished 2 days of hearing nothing but crap from the director of Avatar trashing the tar sands project in northern Alberta from his 10,000sq ft home in Cal. prior to flying up here in his private jet and then touring around in a fleet of helicopters like some knight in shining armour. Suggesting we should stop using Alberta crude because it's not environmentaly friendly. Now it seems that there are those out there that think we as a group of snowmobilers should stand up in public and demonstrate how environmentaly responsible we are. "Get a Grip" Any one here that wouldn't be sledding if these machines weren't as clean as they are? I doubt it. Read the forums. What percentage of owners here take a perfectly good, EPA compliant sled and then mod the crap out of it, making it about as environmentally friendly as that jerk-offs jet is when it pollutes the air as it races scheduled airliners to the Edmonton Int. at Leduc. How bout the tree huggers parading all over this planet promoting alternate energy sources? Any body remember Al Gore?
If you want to be an example of someone who believes in a green planet then give up the sh$t that makes it dirty. You want to save the environment from human contamination.....jump off a cliff because as long as you populate this planet you will be contaminating it, it's what we do best. We over populate and consume and by default, we will eventually ruin this planet.
As snowmobilers we enjoy ourselves at the expense of consuming fossil fuels. How can we legitamately stand up in a public forum and try to present ourselves as environmentalists. Maybe we should team up with NASCAR and Indy racing and form an alliance.
You want to be an environmental watch dog...go ahead. Gather your troops,head off to war and find your hill to die on. I'll be riding my sled and burning fossil fuels and I will contribute nothing positive to this planet while I'm doing it. Then I'll go back to polluting the atmosphere as I attempt to produce cheap food to feed the masses.
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Jorli
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Yet another opinion backed by nothing but negative nonsense. With regards to your statement about over population, Canada has a birth rate of 1.3 and it takes a rate of 2.1 just to sustain the population. Without a birth rate of 2.1, a country needs to rely on immigration so that society doesn't collapse.
James Cameron!!!! What would expect to hear about the tar sands? The guy is heavily backing carbon trading-(Translation=invested in it!)
http://www.indexmundi.com/canada/birth_rate.html
Please, go on listing why you shouldn't do anything to help protect our sport..... Now I can see why snowmobiling is so hated by all the environmental groups, attitudes like this are crystal meth to James Cameron ideologues. They are not only going to end our way of life, they'll make money doing it. It blows me away that so many people are just content ruining it for all of us.
Please, if anyone wants to attack me for trying support our sport, please DO!!!!!!! Just make sure you attack me on the issues that I've raised and the sources I've provided (and be sure to reference everything) because character assassination based your feelings shows that you have nothing valid to say.
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tranquillicer
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ya right
And you better have a "leg to stand on" if your going to up against people who don't approve of what you are doing ie, sledding is totally optional and just a form of entertainment. The fact that it is strictly recreational would suggest that we as sledders are totally dispensable and the world would be a smidgeon cleaner if we didn't exist. I'm not suggesting that we sit back and watch the planet go to hell in a hand basket but rather that we choose a battle we can win and in a war against pollution a sledder does not stand a chance against a hiker/biker/clean air dreaming greenie who likely doesn't even fart.
As for Cameron...I think the dreamland he created in Avatar went to his head. I will never again support a two faced, opportunistic joke such as him. I don't care where he is from. What does he think the ashfalt that covers the land he lives on is made from? How bout he massive amounts of natural gas it takes to heat the properties he owns? The electricity he consumes to power these same facilities? He thrives financially off of the desire of humans to be consumers of non-essential things like entertainment and then he has the balls to come to the source of so much of the disposable income people have to support his lifstyle and suggest that we "shut-it-down" for a while and re-asses what we are doing there.......oh but wait..not until he fills his storage tanks with Jet "A" cause he has more dragons to slay and he needs that little baby to get there and learn something after he shoots his mouth off. He could have likely invested in a large wind generator for the money he spent on this last little episode. Maybe place it beside his homes and go green himself for a change.
I don't want our sport to die or to be killed just as I dont want our planet to be raped and plundered and left in ruins. I'm just trying to figure out how everyone thinks this will be reversed if no one wants to give anything up.
Come on jorli you know perfectly well what I'm saying about population. It's a global thing not just a local thing. Over populated countries all over the planet have people migrating to lesser popullated ones because they have no choice. No food, no water,no work, no education and no hope. Where do you think these imagrants are moving to? Alberta,Sask,Man,NWT,? Ya right. Try Vancouver,TO and Montreal. Just where they are needed right? I suggest again to you that you ask yourself a simple question....What will we run out of first as we countinue along the path of procreation?
And you better have a "leg to stand on" if your going to up against people who don't approve of what you are doing ie, sledding is totally optional and just a form of entertainment. The fact that it is strictly recreational would suggest that we as sledders are totally dispensable and the world would be a smidgeon cleaner if we didn't exist. I'm not suggesting that we sit back and watch the planet go to hell in a hand basket but rather that we choose a battle we can win and in a war against pollution a sledder does not stand a chance against a hiker/biker/clean air dreaming greenie who likely doesn't even fart.
As for Cameron...I think the dreamland he created in Avatar went to his head. I will never again support a two faced, opportunistic joke such as him. I don't care where he is from. What does he think the ashfalt that covers the land he lives on is made from? How bout he massive amounts of natural gas it takes to heat the properties he owns? The electricity he consumes to power these same facilities? He thrives financially off of the desire of humans to be consumers of non-essential things like entertainment and then he has the balls to come to the source of so much of the disposable income people have to support his lifstyle and suggest that we "shut-it-down" for a while and re-asses what we are doing there.......oh but wait..not until he fills his storage tanks with Jet "A" cause he has more dragons to slay and he needs that little baby to get there and learn something after he shoots his mouth off. He could have likely invested in a large wind generator for the money he spent on this last little episode. Maybe place it beside his homes and go green himself for a change.
I don't want our sport to die or to be killed just as I dont want our planet to be raped and plundered and left in ruins. I'm just trying to figure out how everyone thinks this will be reversed if no one wants to give anything up.
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Jorli
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Thank you, great post! I completely agree with you and appreciate this type of dialogue.
The point I've failed to make is that there are a lot of people that mean well representing the environmental movement, I'd much rather see these people focus their energy on real environmental issues that don't get the press they deserve, IMO, SAG and GMO. Snowmobiling is such a non-issue by comparison, I think they just need a push in the right direction because we aren't the problems....
I couldn't agree more with you about James Cameron's stunt, I guess when guys can cut a cheque for a 1 million dollars a day and not go through their fortunes they have to find some way to amuse themselves.
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snowmobiler
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go green.enviromental sky is falling snowmobile club.
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Jaynelson
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I agree that snowmobiliers as a group are our own worst enemy. Whether regarding environmental or safety (avalanche, etc) issues, we generally do the majority of the political damage to ourselves. I agree with bolstering sledders to be more proactive, however, you've picked a very strange target. I would find it much more logical to go after enviro-issues more directly related to our sport. For example, cat skiing and heli-skiing both involve copius use of fossil fuels for transporation to/from remote lodges and power generation on site. Not green by any measure, however, these guys beat us up in the media all winter. Why? Because they're organized and learned how to whine loud a long time ago. They keep (or at least portray) themselves that one notch cleaner and safer.....they don't have to be perfect; just slightly less unruly than us.
So, while I see what you're getting at....I don't think we're there yet. Until we can comfortably go toe to toe with easy targets like that, the ones proposed in this thread are out of our scope. IMO....just sayin
Jesse ventura says that global warming is a scam by members of the UN to Create a global government and take over the world
Are the global warming guys in conflict with these guys flying the chem trail planes or are they creating global warming with these chem trails so they can take over the world
things that make you go......Hmmmmmmmmm!
Personally, I think Ski doo is the Antichrist
Are the global warming guys in conflict with these guys flying the chem trail planes or are they creating global warming with these chem trails so they can take over the world
things that make you go......Hmmmmmmmmm!
Personally, I think Ski doo is the Antichrist
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